Having never done much work on a S&W revolver, I need some help.
I have looked at several online diagrams, but haven't clearly identified the parts, as the nomenclature has been different on a couple of them.

1) Can you tell me what parts are missing that keeps this 14-1 from cocking the hammer in DA?
2) Where can I order them? (Direct links would be really helpful! )





Thank you!

It is missing the double action sear on the hammer, which pivots on the hole at the 2 o'clock position above the hammer stud. Not sure if you are aware, but they did market a single action only model 14. I know, because I bought one once without knowing that. I picked up a hammer with the double action sear and luckily, it worked without any fitting. I sold it with both hammers long ago. what I don't remember, though, is if yours is a true single action only hammer - or if someone just removed the DA sear. I don't remember what mine looked like.

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Tony

Tony,
That is the nomenclature I saw on one drawing, but many Google searches and trip through the Brownells catalog did not turn up any.

Are any other parts needed to install this sear when I find one?

The pin and the spring.

The DA function on the hammer and trigger currently in the gun in the photograph cannot be restored.
The DA cams on both the hammer and trigger have been removed. (factory SA only))

If you want to restore SA/DA you'll have to purchase a new hammer and trigger, and have them fit to the gun.

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Source for these parts??

Well, that answers my question...

Parts gun it is.





I was contemplating a renovation if I could return it to 'normal' function.
Would have rust blued the metal, as that is the only process I am set up to do.

armorer951, that jogs my memory. I had a DA trigger in my parts box way back when and only needed a DA hammer to make that 14 a DA. It was about 20 years ago. Thinking about it - I traded it for an 1897 Winchester 12 ga - which of course I no longer have either.

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If the frame and barrel are serviceable, aside from the cosmetic damage, you could have a great shooter there with a minimum investment in parts and fitting.

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Can you define 'minimal investment'?

It is a okay shooter now, as a single action.

Also, better pictures of the hammer posted in a few minutes. I'm not sure where the cam surfaces are, as I can see no evidence of modification to the hammer.

You might want to look here for parts:14 S&W Accessories | Numrich Gun Parts

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Standard hammer and trigger SA and DA working edges shown below.

Barring any other problems, the investment would be the amount of parts and the fitting labor, if needed. I would say approx. $100.00-$125.00. If you would like to sell it you have a buyer.

Trigger:



Hammer DA:



Hammer SA:

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If it were me, and I already had the setup to rust blue the gun, I would just refinish and leave it SA only.

Thanks for the link. My search at Numrich didn't turn up that page.

Those are some tiny surfaces!
The next Smith I have on hand I will be pulling the sideplate to see exactly how they interface.

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I did know the S&W had made single action only revolvers. I did NOT know models or any other information.

After watching the video and looking at the location of the double action sear, is this one of the single action 14's?

Could a double action sear be installed on the hammer in this 14?



Is that what armorer meant with this comment?

No, that is a factory SA only hammer, and DA function cannot be "restored".

The trigger currently in the gun will also need to be replaced in order for DA to function. The DA cam just below the trigger bevel that is necessary for DA function is not present. (factory SA only trigger)

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From the posts last night, I understood that DA function would require replacement of the hammer and trigger.

I missed the detail of the currently installed parts being factory made. I was mistakenly thinking it had been altered and the cams removed.

Ebay is your friend for parts. There were some people who were selling demilled K frame parts. I got a complete stainless kit for nice price.

Contemplating my options before deciding to rust blue myself, send out for re-blue, break it down for parts, or sell as is.

Called S&W and this revolver just made the 1960 cut-off for them to work on it. Pricing seems comparable to other companies for re-bluing.

Would there be any reason not to send it to S&W? When sold in the future, would having the work done by S&W be beneficial?

Will they leave the SA components untouched?

Of the finishes offered by S&W, which would be correct for this revolver? 'Standard Polish' or 'High Bright Polish'?

If not sent to S&W, who would you recommend?

Thank you.

Where'd everybody go?

Rust blue it yourself and sell as a refinished SA only. Cheapest way to go.

Matte blue (glass bead) is an option from S&W....$170

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As a true SINGLE ACTION only revolver, it is more valuable than if converted to sa/da.
Factory standard blue would make it look original even though refinished.
Frankly would just clean it up and not refinish.

Smith has made a number of S.A.O. revolvers over the years. I have a 1955/45 Factory S.A.O. Have contemplated having it converted to DA but have never followed through.

That is a fairly rare SA only hammer in that gun and cannot be made DA with sear, pin and spring. Get a replacement DA hammer and after the sear is fitted, it will work fine.

Really nice pictures. Good job.

It looks like someone lathered Naval Jelly on that poor thing.

I'd get on EBay and buy a K frame parts kit for the hammer and trigger. Fit them up and then, if you're capable, give it the highest polish blue you can in house. I wouldn't spend a ton of money on it. M

Or, sell it as is as the SAO 14 is considerably more rare than the traditional version.

If I had to guess, it was blood.

Coca-Cola will do that to a blue finish as well. Have seen that happen at a gun show.

The hammer and trigger are both SA only.

I vote for re-blue in house and leave SA.

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