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Old 03-28-2017, 02:39 PM
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Is the model 14 38 spl 6" barrel the same as a K38 target or just a K38 master piece ?
What is the difference between the model 14 ?
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All Model 14's are K 38 Masterpiece revolvers, but not all K 38 Masterpiece revolvers are Model 14's....

It's an age thing....
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All Model 14's are K 38 Masterpiece revolvers, but not all K 38 Masterpiece revolvers are Model 14's....

It's an age thing....
Do they all have the target trigger and target hammer ?
Is the model 14 very accurate ?

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SmithNut's statement is correct. Let me explain. The K-38 Masterpiece was introduced shortly after the war, sometime in late 1946, although full production started the following year. This gun, with an improved rear sight, was the continuation of (actually the reintroduction of) the prewar Military & Police target model, now with a new name that separated it from the M&P.

The K-38 Masterpiece did not get the Model 14 designation until 1957, with model marked guns first leaving the factory in 1958. So, the K-38 wasn't always the Model 14.

Now to the wording of your original question. There isn't any such thing as a K-38 Target revolver (at least not by that name). The official name of the gun was K-38 Masterpiece. Earlier editions of the SCSW called it a K-38 Target Masterpiece, but that was incorrect nomenclature that has been corrected in the 4th Edition (well, mostly - the incorrect name still shows up in a few places in the text, but no longer in the header).

In 1958, when the Model 14s started showing up on dealer shelves, the included literature called the gun the Model 14 K-38 Masterpiece. The model number was added and the name was retained.
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Do they all have the target trigger and target hammer?
No. All combinations were made and shipped. Some have both Ts and some have one and not the other. Also some shipped with target stocks (3T guns) and some had Magna stocks. Magna stocks show up on guns with the other two Ts, some with one only and some with neither.

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Is the model 14 very accurate?
Very much so. For my money, it is the best .38 Special target revolver of its time. I own about a dozen of them and all of them shoot extremely well.
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What, no pictures? My 14-3. Bob
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There's a few variations and pics in this thread...

Informal Pictorial Essay - K-38 Masterpiece (and Model 14) variations
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Is the model 14 very accurate ?
No, it is extremely accurate! I've got lots of S&W revolvers of various vintage including some newer Performance Center guns, but none match the buttery-smooth trigger of the K38 or Model 14, and none are as accurate. I'm not all that good of a shot, but my Model 14 makes me look like one!
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They are very accurate. If you really want to cheat, get one with the 8-3/8" barrel.

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I looked at one a guy has for sale, it was awfully worn. The last inch of the barrel had no blueing left, the cylinder had almost all the blueing worn off. He said it was holster wear. The trigger was narrow and had ridges in it, the hammer did not look case hardened, it was more just silver aluminum color same as the trigger. Hw was asking $385.00 and would not budge on the price. Inside the crane it was marked model 14 with no dashes. It just looked worn out. What do you guys think ?
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Most Model 14s were well taken care of. There's no shortage of nice condition Model 14s but they tend to cost more than $385. If this one was holstered a lot, then some bluing loss is natural. I can't guess why the hammer looks like silver aluminum. The trigger sounds like a standard narrow trigger for that model.
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I posted about a very nice 6" Model 14 I looked at at a gun shop yesterday. The blueing was very nice, the gun looked nearly pristine. It was pinned. But the hammer was bright steel colored. Did not appear to be case hardened color at all. I sent them an email asking about it and one of the owners told me that the hammer and trigger were target whatever that means but another guy who works there told me over the phone that someone had replaced the hammer for some reason. So obviously the hammer was not original to the gun. That for me was a dealbreaker on it despite it being in very nice condition otherwise. Just goes to show you have to do your detective work when you find a nice S&W because looks can be deceiving.
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