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Found what I had really been looking for (Before the 60 & 66 I bought showed up) which was a J-frame in a 3" with adjustable sights. Well I found a 60-4 in this config in pretty nice shape in a LGS today for $549. NOW - I am on the h o r n s of a Dilemma' - shall I sell my 2" No Dash and buy the 60-4? OR definitely KEEP the 2" no dash because it will always be more desirable? Opinions please! Thanks!
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The 60-4 is at a good price and there are more 2" model 60s. The best alternative is to keep both, of course .
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The 2" 60 is or can be a pocket gun. The 60-4 is not a pocket gun but it is a lot easier to shoot accurately. Also its black sights do not get lost in reflection with bright light coming from undesirable angles like a fixed sight stainless revolver. A little barrel pin does not do much to distinguish your 60 from the zillions of other 2" J frames. A 60-4 looks classy and desirable to me but other members want the option of .357 available in newer J frames.

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If I saw a 60-4 for that price in good condition I'd buy it immediately! As I have been looking for one for a while at a good price but want a shooter not a collectible!
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Old 04-14-2017, 11:26 PM
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If I saw a 60-4 for that price in good condition I'd buy it immediately! As I have been looking for one for a while at a good price but want a shooter not a collectible!
Yea I didn't think the price was too bad on the surface - and I might be able to get it for a bit less - MAYBE $475 +/-. I didn't think about it until later but there were several 'new' S & W additions to the gun case and all SS. Saw several '6XX' model #s - I didn't look at them too closely but I am thinking someone sold off a collection possibly.

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Yea I didn't think the price was too bad on the surface - and I might be able to get it for a bit less - MAYBE $475 +/-
I had a 36-6 for about a year. Never used it and sold it before realizing how few were made another one of my regrets in selling handguns. I finally decided about20 years ago to never sell any more of my firearms.

I have made myself a list of the ones I let go to remind me why I don't want to sell any more. Every time I look at the list I want to kick myself!
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I would definitely buy that 60-4. I have one and it's a very nice gun. It shoots well. I paid a little more but it's LNIB. Keep the snub too.
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Do you REALLY expect anything other than "both" from us revolver fans?
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I understand - being a revolver fan also! I am beginning to think the 'starting' price of $549 ain't too bad after doing some research....
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That's a good price for a 60-4. You might not see another for less.
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NO, you should keep the 2" , and sell me the 60-4, 3" gun. It will only get you in trouble. It will entice you to want to buy more quality S&W's, you wife will be unhappy because you are spending too much on guns. Save yourself, and send me the 60-4.
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I don't own it yet!
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If you hesitate, the gun will soon be gone, thus solving your dilemma.


If a M-60-4 in really nice shape appears, buy it. They are wonderful small trail guns and defense revolvers.


Keep the true snub, too. They don't fill exactly the same role.


If you want a small .357, I think the Ruger SP fills the bill better than a J-frame S&W. When Smith Magnumized the J-frame, they went a bridge too far, I think. The M-60-4 was just right.
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My opinion is to get the 60-4. I have the 36-6 (carbon steel version) and could never be happier. I will take my 36-6 over any 2" snub.
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And I may hold out for a 3" SP 101 - was on my WAY to buy one I saw in a LGS last year but it was Gone in one day! - $459
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And I may hold out for a 3" SP 101 - was on my WAY to buy one I saw in a LGS last year but it was Gone in one day! - $459
No disrespect intended, but it sounds like you didn't learn your lesson. I gotta believe the 60-4 will be much harder to find again.

This one sold the next day at 599. ARMSLIST - For Sale: "PRICE LOWERED" Smith and Wesson model 60-4 (Target)

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Got tied up with other projects and finally went into the LGS the other day that had it - GONE! (as I suspected)
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Got tied up with other projects and finally went into the LGS the other day that had it - GONE! (as I suspected)

See? I told you this would be the solution to your dilemma.



Remember this when you see another SP-101 with three-inch barrel, too. Both Ruger boards make it clear that that's in heavy demand too, and hard to get. Even finding a basic four-inch GP-100 isn't easy these days.


IF you ever find another M-60-4, maybe you can put it in layaway and pay it off. If you walk out of the store, the gun will likely be gone within a day or two.


BTW, my holsters for the M-60-4 are from El Paso Saddlery. You'll need custom holsters like those, due to the full lug barrel not fitting most holsters for three- Chief Specials.
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Even finding a basic four-inch GP-100 isn't easy these days.
Around here not so - I have seen several recently - and in 6"
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Not necessary - I am just a tightwad who overthinks things to the point I sometimes miss good deals - but not always - like the 66 & 60 I bought.
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Texas Star is correct - the 60-4 is "just right." If you have any interest in it, I would not let it slip away. I have one and like it so well I wish I had a spare. The 60-10 and later guns just aren't the same.
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Late to the party, but I have to agree with the members who encourage anyone to buy a 60-4 where found and when found. Poor Dale53 had to find one for me to buy so it was safe to have me visit his home... I lusted after HIS 60-4 so strongly. I'm sure I COULD live without mine, but I'm not sure I would WANT to!

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Remember this when you see another SP-101 with three-inch barrel, too. Both Ruger boards make it clear that that's in heavy demand too, and hard to get. Even finding a basic four-inch GP-100 isn't easy these days.


IF you ever find another M-60-4, maybe you can put it in layaway and pay it off. If you walk out of the store, the gun will likely be gone within a day or two.


BTW, my holsters for the M-60-4 are from El Paso Saddlery. You'll need custom holsters like those, due to the full lug barrel not fitting most holsters for three- Chief Specials.
If you can find a used, or "new old stock" Safariland #1 Kit holster made for the 4" S&W Kit Gun, they will fit a Model 60-4 perfectly. I have used mine for my Model 63 .22 L.R, Model 631 .32 Magnum, as well as my Model 60-4 .38 Special.

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Saw one at a gun show last weekend, priced somewhat higher. I and a forum member tried to get the other to buy it. I won out, it's his. 😀 Nice gun, easy to hide and shoot.
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If you can find a used, or "new old stock" Safariland #1 Kit holster made for the 4" S&W Kit Gun, they will fit a Model 60-4 perfectly. I have used mine for my Model 63 .22 L.R, Model 631 .32 Magnum, as well as my Model 60-4 .38 Special.

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I like old Safariland holsters and had one like that, but basket-stamped and a darker, wonderful golden brown. I sold it with the M-34 that had such bad extraction that I had to pound out empty .22 cases with a rubber mallet! I do have a three-inch holster from them, but it doesn't accept the full lug barrel. You were lucky , and you still have a holster for a four-inch gun. I wanted the right length.


One of my El Paso holsters is their Model 2, virtually identical to the old Safariland M-29.
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I like old Safariland holsters and had one like that, but basket-stamped and a darker, wonderful golden brown. I sold it with the M-34 that had such bad extraction that I had to pound out empty .22 cases with a rubber mallet! I do have a three-inch holster from them, but it doesn't accept the full lug barrel. You were lucky , and you still have a holster for a four-inch gun. I wanted the right length.


One of my El Paso holsters is their Model 2, virtually identical to the old Safariland M-29.
I have quite a few of the old Safariland holsters. I wish they still made them.
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I sold an adjustable sight 2" 60-1 (Ashland special) and bought my 60-4, no regrets from a using standpoint. I couldn't hit the ground with the 2" 60, but the -4 shoots like a much bigger gun. It is one of my top three favorite and most used revolvers, and is not for sale. Then, I also have a no-dash 60 that is my daily carry.





And I know you can get basically the same gun in .357, but I have no desire for a .357 in a gun that size; perfectly happy with the good old .38 Special in this platform. If I want .357 power I'll carry my 2 1/2" 66.

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Saw one about two years ago at a local gun show. Finish was terrible - lots of scratches = he wanted $900 !!!!! Buy it! I had one in the late 90s, wasn't used so traded it off. Have regretted it since. Did acquire a 60-15, which is a magnum but not near as nice. Nuff said.
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I stumbled on this 60-4 a few weeks ago, and believe me I know the drill. "Some revolvers - you just have to buy them when you see them." With shop member discount - $585 OTD. First one I had ever seen in a shop. Pulled out this basket weave S&W holster that got put away when I sold my M63 4". I'll get a 3" holster at some point, but this will work nicely for trail walks. BTW - it shoots real good with 158 grains. Thx - PEN
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While I have a 4" Model 63...... my "Kit Gun" is a 3" 60-10 micro-686.

Shot shells to .357...... but generally carried with .+P .38s
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My Model 60. KB Mini cokes. Never fired
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I like old Safariland holsters and had one like that, but basket-stamped and a darker, wonderful golden brown...
Me too. Aren't they lovely? I have the exact same holster you described only mine is sized for my 4-inch Combat Magnum. I was a young fellow with not much cash to spare when I found it in the used holster bin at a local shop. Hardly a mark on it and easily restored to new appearance with a tiny bit of leather cream. I thought I was the luckiest boy in Indiana.

Still have both Model 19 and holster, all these years later...
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If I saw a 60-4 for that price in good condition I'd buy it immediately! As I have been looking for one for a while at a good price but want a shooter not a collectible!
I have a shooter grade 60-4 we could probably come to terms on when you get ready for one.
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Guess what ! I found the person who bought this 60-4 - turns out is an acquaintance of mine and he is willing to sell it to me for what he paid for it (which was the $549.00 - they wouldn't budge) Opinions? Thanks! PS - The sight below is another issue.

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I doubt you'll find one cheaper. I'd buy it if I wanted one (I already have one). I think I paid $500 for mine several years ago.
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At that price, if I were in your shoes (i.e., don't have one) I would be a buyer. It's a fair price for a great little revolver.
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Yea most likely a go on this. There is another little up side to all of this - the guy I bought my M-60 from has really regretted selling it to me and told me he would take it back if I ever decided to sell it - which I don't but given the circumstances (it was his dads gun) I'll return it to him.
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I'd grab it at that price, or even a little more.
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Guess what ! I found the person who bought this 60-4 - turns out is an acquaintance of mine and he is willing to sell it to me for what he paid for it (which was the $549.00 - they wouldn't budge) Opinions? Thanks! PS - The sight below is another issue.
This sounds like deja vu all over again!

This is the second chance you've had at that gun and you're STILL vacillating, and the man isn't even asking a profit?! Maybe he found something wrong with this particular gun?

If it's okay and you don't pay that amount, you probably don't deserve that gun. Someone else will understand it and appreciate it more.

BTW, I can't see whatever photo or video you tried to post.

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This is the second chance you've had at that gun and you're STILL vacillating, and the man isn't even asking a profit?! Maybe he found something wrong with this particular gun?
He is a pretty good guy - I have dealt with him before - essentially this is a 'personal' deal and IF I were to NOT take it he would probably just keep it. I think when he realized he bought what I was looking at he thought what the heck and offered it to me for what he paid. Yes I plan to take it...
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Guess what ! I found the person who bought this 60-4 - turns out is an acquaintance of mine and he is willing to sell it to me for what he paid for it (which was the $549.00 - they wouldn't budge) Opinions? Thanks! PS - The sight below is another issue.
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I paid $600 for my 60-4 and that was about 5 years ago. In many ways it's the perfect handgun that does everything well.
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If you can afford it.I would vote for both.Then you can carry a New York reload.
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