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No Sir, it was major surgery. They were made for J-frame RB. I Dremeled them out - over sized, for the "short, square" Colt grip frame and re-fitted them with Acra-glas. I think I have some photo's of the process if you need them.
P.S., When I say over sized, I mean .05", there is no extra room in there. The grip shell is very thin, but the frame is entirely bedded in Acra-glas, so they're as tough as Acra-glas.
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Again, it was just MY opinion. But, if you accept the raison d’être for snubbies as being a concealable, light, close quarters weapon, then my rationale should be apparent.
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Everyone has their own opinion and I listen to them. The M27, when it was called the Registered Magnum and the 357 Maganum was popular with the FBI as their side arm, since they wore suits I figure they used a shoulder rig or a flat to the waist holster to conceal them. Nowadays I would only try to conceal it under a heavy coat when visiting friends in the frozen North. Never figured that a snub nose was anything but a belly gun. CQB is left to the M1911's and their ilk.
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Again, it was just MY opinion. But, if you accept the raison d’être for snubbies as being a concealable, light, close quarters weapon, then my rationale should be apparent.
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Your rationale is apparent, your thoughtfulness on the matter however, not so much.
Here's my humble opinion:
Your theory of consealability, fixed sights and light weight, your (raison d’être), will only stand up to scrutiny if your only antagonist is soft, relatively weak and has the gift of speech. A .38 (really .36) will answer admirably for the "you can't take my money" scenario. And, you will probably charge it with a known round of ammunition that will settle the argument, at arms length.
If on the other hand, your tool "de la journée" (huh?......impressed?) is not a firearm but a rod & reel, camera or hiking boots, a big bore, snub nosed revolver can be your salvation. If your adversary is a hardened mammal who covets your kreel or just dosen't like you in his kitchen, that is a "you can't eat me" scenario. He's much bigger than you, he's much tougher than you and he's well armed. Short barrels show up on target quickly because they clear your "non-concealed" belt holster or chest rig, quickly. My adjustable sights don't require the bear load the revolver likes, but the one I like. And, if I'm not the threatened party, but my fishing buddy 30 yards down river is, well, he'll buy the beer afterwards because I had those sights sighted at a distance, with the proper threat stopping ammunition. Bottom line for me is: there is an application for short, .36 caliber revolvers, but, there is also a place for short .44 & .45 revolvers. Hey.... I wonder if S&W, Colt, Ruger and others thought that too, when they invested the money to tool-up?
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I only have 4 revolvers but they're all snubbies.
I find them to be the best combination of practicality for CCW and fun at the range. All shown many times before but here we go....
Model 36 (1983)
Model 66-4 (1997)
Model 19-5 (1988)
Model 60-15 (2015)
(......and my Kimber Ultra Carry Series I; does this count as a snubbie? Yes, I know it's not a revolver...)
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Interesting topic. I find myself on the outside as I don't generally like "snubbies" and I own two of them. Both are Night Guards and if I had my druthers they would have longer barrels. The 386 NG is 2.5" which I find almost offensive as the short ejector rod will not cleanly eject 357 Mag brass and occasionally hangs up on 38 Specials. It really should be a 3". The 325 NG is 2.75" and does eject the short 45 ACPs but I would prefer it as a 3.5".
All this begs the question, at what barrel length does a revolver become a "snubby"? For me it's around 3" and that is somewhat dependent on the frame size. A 3" N-frame is definitely a snubby. A 3" L-frame or K-frame is in a grey area. Probably not real snubbies but they're close. And a 3" J-frame is practically a target gun or would be with adjustable sights. (lol)
To each his/her own and YMMV!
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I buy snubs for CCW but I can't carry them all at one time. Does that mean I have a problem, I say no. Just means a different one for each day.
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Didn't aim to argue, if it came across that way it was unintended. I hope you didn't think it was mean spirited. We can all make our case without being mean to each other.
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Interesting topic. I find myself on the outside as I don't generally like "snubbies" and I own two of them. Both are Night Guards and if I had my druthers they would have longer barrels. The 386 NG is 2.5" which I find almost offensive as the short ejector rod will not cleanly eject 357 Mag brass and occasionally hangs up on 38 Specials. It really should be a 3". The 325 NG is 2.75" and does eject the short 45 ACPs but I would prefer it as a 3.5".
All this begs the question, at what barrel length does a revolver become a "snubby"? For me it's around 3" and that is somewhat dependent on the frame size. A 3" N-frame is definitely a snubby. A 3" L-frame or K-frame is in a grey area. Probably not real snubbies but they're close. And a 3" J-frame is practically a target gun or would be with adjustable sights. (lol)
To each his/her own and YMMV!
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You got to draw the line somewhere.
My definition of snub nose or snubby it is 2 1/2'' or under period. Those 3''N frame Smith's are just short barrel revolvers. I have a 547 3'' and to me its a short barrel revolver! Ruger with their 2 3/4 is a rule onto its self.
Fell free to disagree, we can have a short debate!
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What is a revolver with a 1 7/8" barrel, a sub-snub?
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I particularly like the K frame snubs. Here are two of my favorites. First a Model 64 followed by a Md 15. Both of them are currently on active duty as home defense weapons.
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This little fella is my only snub nosed. But of all my handguns, it's the one I trust with my life daily
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You got to draw the line somewhere.
My definition of snub nose or snubby it is 2 1/2'' or under period.
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I go more by proportional appearance than the ruler, although I'll use the ruler to make my point. My 640 Pro's barrel is about ½" longer than the cylinder, and it looks like a snubby.
My 460ES's barrel is about ½" longer than the cylinder, and it looks like a snubby, too, but it doesn't meet your 2½" rule.
A 3" revolver doesn't "look" like a snubby; on that we agree.
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I particularly like the K frame snubs. Here are two of my favorites. First a Model 64 followed by a Md 15. Both of them are currently on active duty as home defense weapons.
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Both are COOL guns you have there! The 15 snub especially! I was looking for 1 for a while. It did not happen. I got 2 nice substitutes though. Bob
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Both are COOL guns you have there! The 15 snub especially! I was looking for 1 for a while. It did not happen. I got 2 nice substitutes though. Bob
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Yes, I'm really fond of the 15 too! There's just something about the square butt with a 2 inch barrel. I know it is not to everyone's liking but it sure is for me. I hope you find yours soon.
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Hard to own just one when you have multiple vehicles and hiding holes around the house.
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I have one of those "little fellas" and it about breaks my hand every time I pull the trigger... As much as I like the weight (or lack thereof), it feels like I'm shooting the bullet right out of my hand. I've come to the realization that I like the grip size and weight of the K-frame and N-frame snubbies...
Here are some of my 5-Screw M&P snubbies:
... and a few of my 1950's N-frame snubbies...
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I have one of those "little fellas" and it about breaks my hand every time I pull the trigger... As much as I like the weight (or lack thereof), it feels like I'm shooting the bullet right out of my hand. I've come to the realization that I like the grip size and weight of the K-frame and N-frame snubbies...
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Obviously I don't have it as badly as some of you. My crop is five J frames, three 60s, a 38, and 42, and a pre 10. I never caught the bug for snubbies larger than .38/.357. To me the useful big bores start at 4" and end at 6 1/2".
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A.J. and all you so called snubbies collectors. I have news for you.
A snubbie collector can have this desire spread to other collector
wheel guns.
Reading this site will could keep you in constant want. You can get satisfied then you read this and your are back in the hunt. LOL,
It's a fun way to live.
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I think I caught the Snubbie bug too. I love these little guns
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Did someone mention snubbies? Yep, here are a few. Left to right:
Ruger LCR .38 Spl.
Colt's Agent .38 Spl.
Charter Undercover .38 Spl.
S&W Model 60 .357 Mag and S&W 642 .38 Spl.
Taurus model 85 .38 Spl. and model 94 .22
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Left to right:
Model 10 snub hiding in a Lawrence #34 Special Agent pigskin holster.
Ruger SP101 in KD's Eagle Defender with Croc. trim.
Vintage Charter Undercover in a Bucheimer Sheriff holster.
There should be a few more around here somewhere.
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I only have one at the moment, not for lack of trying though!
My husband gave me flack for wanting a snub, now he wants to take it everytime we go shooting.
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