|
|
08-15-2017, 12:15 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 22,795
Likes: 18,509
Liked 22,391 Times in 8,268 Posts
|
|
Lock-tite on screws
I just recently purchased a nice older (Jan. 1971) 15-3, 4" standard barrel, and with both target hammer and target trigger. It also had non matching sharp shoulder diamond center magna's. It had just enough handling wear you don't worry about shooting it. As with all the used guns I buy, I open them up and inspect and clean as needed. That's when I find out the previous owner had used lock-tite on all the side plate screws and the strain screw. I broke a screwdriver blade on the yoke retention screw (screwdriver blades designed to break rather than bend/twist and slide out of a slot).
I had to take a hair dryer and heat the screws up before I could remove them. Luckily the insides showed no signs of any wear, but was very dry. I just lubed and put back together.
PLEASE people, side plate screws properly installed do not need lock-tite.
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
|
The Following 4 Users Like Post:
|
|
08-15-2017, 12:17 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Suburban Deeeetroit
Posts: 2,263
Likes: 71
Liked 1,392 Times in 673 Posts
|
|
That's painful to hear!
Glad you got it apart safely w/o any damage.
People that don't understand are beyond dangerous!!!
|
08-15-2017, 01:01 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Ellisville, Missouri
Posts: 2,226
Likes: 4,996
Liked 1,309 Times in 685 Posts
|
|
And, of course, there are several grades of Lock-tite. The lighter versions basically just keep screws from backing out on their own and there's no problem unscrewing them when you need to take them out.
|
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
|
|
08-15-2017, 01:16 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 798
Likes: 1,218
Liked 490 Times in 276 Posts
|
|
Congrats on the recent Model 15! I'm also glad to hear nothing was damaged. I also rarely see side plate screws that need loctite.
If someone is having problems with side plate screws, I might try finding another screw first. If that doesn't work, remember that there are different levels of loctite for different applications. Loctite on a screw in a conspicuous area like that should have the weakest level of thread grip.
|
08-15-2017, 01:17 PM
|
|
Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cary, NC
Posts: 3,082
Likes: 12,877
Liked 7,548 Times in 2,081 Posts
|
|
A more effective method of removing screws treated with Loctite is to heat the screwdriver with a torch but not to the point of turning the screwdriver cherry-red. Insert the screwdriver blade in the screw slot and hold it there for a while. Other than scope mounts, most gun screws do not require Loctite.
|
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
|
|
08-15-2017, 04:16 PM
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 7,345
Likes: 7,535
Liked 5,585 Times in 2,559 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by H Richard
PLEASE people, side plate screws properly installed do not need lock-tite.
|
Except when they do.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-15-2017, 04:49 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Bradenton, florida
Posts: 1,655
Likes: 5,318
Liked 3,465 Times in 917 Posts
|
|
I recently ordered some yoke screws so that I have extras from brownells. They came with a blob of red color goop on one side of each. Seems to hold it tight but comes out fine with the blob still intact.
|
08-15-2017, 05:22 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: R.T. P, area NC
Posts: 9,716
Likes: 29,586
Liked 23,017 Times in 5,789 Posts
|
|
Clear nail polish is all that should be necessary to secure any screw on a firearm. Red Locktite is a serous No-No.
__________________
Always Stay Strong!
|
08-15-2017, 05:24 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Central Montana
Posts: 13,702
Likes: 12,850
Liked 39,439 Times in 10,035 Posts
|
|
I suspect that the red stuff on newer screws is not loctite. It could be that it is there to simply provide a vibration dampened engagement by establishing an elastic 100% filling of the mating threads. An effect similar to placing small O rings on the screws holding 1911 grip panels. Just that the instead of only at tthe head it is thinner and on every screw pitch.
|
08-15-2017, 07:22 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: West Central IL
Posts: 22,795
Likes: 18,509
Liked 22,391 Times in 8,268 Posts
|
|
The "red blob" on new manufactured screws is not lock-tite. It is a medium that fills the screw slot and "jam's" the screw tight, but doesn't lock it. It can be removed normally.
__________________
H Richard
SWCA1967 SWHF244
|
08-15-2017, 07:27 PM
|
Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Planet earth
Posts: 13,869
Likes: 2,079
Liked 13,354 Times in 5,549 Posts
|
|
I notice any heavy shooting any revolvers that have screws come loose. The m19 are noted for screws coming loose with a constant shooting magnum loads. That's why I chose the ruger's there's no screws to come loose. My colt Python had no problem with loose screws.
There is all kinds of thread locker make sure your using a removable thread locker. There is a permanent thread locker and a loctite for cylinderical parts. These are forever loctite. But they will loosen up at 400 degrees of heat.
Last edited by BigBill; 08-15-2017 at 07:30 PM.
|
08-15-2017, 07:31 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Bradenton, florida
Posts: 1,655
Likes: 5,318
Liked 3,465 Times in 917 Posts
|
|
I can confirm the new red blob stuff that comes on new screws for sideplate or yoke works great. No worries if you get new screws with it on. Like the posters said in previous replies it's like a nylon type material holds screw in place and does not effect removal of screw.
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|