Dear Forum Members

Thinking about selling my 28 4 inch and getting a 4 inch fixed Mod 58 for EDC. I have carried a 1911 or my 28 for EDC for several years loading 357 HP's in the mod 28. The adjustable sights are nice but I don't think they are necessary on a EDC revolver. Would carrying a 58 with 41 mag police loads be a more effective self defense choice than carrying my 28 with 357 hp"s---currently Buffalo Bore? I have a Bianchi OWB holster and a Shoulder holster that I use for the 28 which would probably fit the 58. Recoil with 357 Buffalo bore rounds is not uncomfortable at all. I am looking for a measurable increase in effectiveness not just muzzle flash, jump and recoil. I have shot a 58 with police loads and think they are what I would select for an EDC load.

I would appreciate input from Forum members that have spent time shooting a 4 inch 28 and a 58, especially if they carry either one for EDC.

Alternative plan is to find a nice model 4 inch 29 and use light specials.



Von

I carried a 58 as a duty weapon for 13 years on the Highway Patrol.. It is effective when needed. It is substantially more powerful than the .357. Better? That's a personal judgement.

When the WHP issued and required carry of a Model 66, I felt undergunned for dealing with cars etc. I quit and went to ranching.

I had a 6" Model 28 hanging in a holster in my pickup for 20 years. Kind of a one handed carbine.

Moved back to town and backed'er down a notch to 45 ACP and Colts for EDC.



This tie tack is a 41 magnum 210 JHP that went through the tail gate of a 1970 Ford Bronco and wound up in the dashboard radio.
That's a little more horsepower than I need now. I don't need the recoil, muzzle blast, and penetration of the big ol magnums for EDC in town.

The 58 and 28s are darn fine guns but they'll get heavy by the end of the day as you get older.

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I recommend the 4 inch 29 or 629. You have a lot more options for ammunition and the ammo will be a lot cheaper than .41 mag. Same size gun, a lot more you can do with it. The Buffalo Bore heavy .44 Special loads are nice out of a 629.

The 58 is a little lighter than the 28 and the fixed sights are better for every day/concealed carry. As far as effectiveness, both are very effective. I really like Winchester 175 grain Silvertips in the 41 Magnum. They are not full throttle loads so not too much recoil and muzzle blast. The only complaint about Silvertips was a lack of penetration in 45ACP, 9MM and 357 Magnum. I don't think this will be a problem in the 41 Magnum load as it has enough horsepower to achieve adequate penetration along with spectacular expansion. The best advice I can give you is keep the Model 28 and get the Model 58. Selling guns, bad. Acquiring guns, good.

I would never sell anything to get another.

If you can handle a M28 all day as an EDC, go with the M58. The upgrade in power is significant.

Give a long thought to using hard-cast SWCs in the .41 Mag. Lots of penetration with a bunch of authority behind it. They put real purty holes in things!

Just another M58 cultist, here.

EDC to me means a gun which is .... carried a lot ...and shot a little..........

the question you need to assess....... is do you "need" the power of a .41 magnum??

Remember the Model 19 was developed to carry 8-12 hours a day (vs a N-frame) and shoot .357s rarely if ever. (outside of training)

I don't have a .41 mag of any flavor..... I do have a 4" 28 and a 27..... both are great, 'big" guns....... but for EDC; when I assess my threat/risk level...in a revolver .. I'm happy with a 3" 66.

My back ..... agrees.

Carried a 58 for several years as a highway patrol duty gun back in the early 80's, have carried it CC on an off since then. Own several 28's, and they have always been field guns. If I am going to lug an N frame around as a concealed carry, I want a 41,44 or 45 caliber bore in it. I have also carried a 357magnum cc since the 70's and it has always been a model 65. Both guns to me are among "best of breed" for duty / carry revolvers.

I just got a snubbie model 58 for EDC, so I vote for the 58. Not that there is anything wrong with the 28, just the 58 has more cahones behind it And, I second the motion for LSWC - they will go deep and break bones with authority

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On the Oak Savannah

I know this is good thinking because I didn't have it. Sorry, I can't bear to recall for you the details - too many of the sold ones were S&W.

P.S. Theories about what works come and go. A 158 grain .36 caliber bullet has a greater sectional density than anything you're likely to carry in a .41. Don't even ask about a 180. Your beliefs can change, and available bullets and available cartridges can change. I would not advise dumping your 28. About the 58? When you ask on this web site whether to buy or not to buy, what do you think the answer is going to be?

Dear Forum Members,

I will probably keep the model 28.

I will look for a model 58 or 29 in 4 inch.

Model 29's new with the lock are around $800 and the last new price for a 58 with a lock from a few years ago was about $1000.


I am a senior citizen and have found that carrying my 28 in a Ken Null synthetic shoulder holster is not a daily grind. Unique design and release. More comfortable than carry in my safariland shoulder holster. Plus its white and disappears over my white business shirts.

I really appreciate everyone's input.

Von

I think so much depends on what you need edc for. If you are around stock or large four-footed critters that need stopping power go for it. I would hate to be the reason someone didn't take the opportunity to get a 58. I also have the opinion that the 357 is at the upper limit for human social engagements. Too much penetration and controllability issues DA shooting unless you practice at minimum bi-weekly. Go with what makes you content. I think a K frame EDC is heavy enough.

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Front sight and squeeze

IMO, worth exactly what you paid - N frames make great woods and field guns. That's what most of mine get used for.
I've got enough back trouble from the decades of wearing a duty belt that I don't really need any more.
K frames, and if so inclined, J frames are much better suited for CC/EDC.

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SWCA #2275

I personally would go for the model 58, you never know when you might be called to put down an injured buffalo or a rogue elephant. And speaking of elephants, here is an old joke from the "elephant joke" days.

Q: Why do ducks have flat feet?
A: From stomping out forest fires.
Q: Why do elephants have flat feet?
A: From stomping out burning ducks.

If you are EDC'ing in Alaska and have to deal with Bears and a Pack of Angry Moose, I guess a 29 or a 58 would be warranted.

If you live in the 'Burbs or a City, I would not know why a .357 wouldn't do the job. The 29 or 58 will have a bigger bang and make a larger hole in what you hit, but the .357 is so versatile and will recoil less than a 29 or 58 I would think.

Maybe the Police Load is not as snappy as a 125 grain hopped up .357, but you can get a mild .357 magnum load that will do everything you need.

That Tie-Tack is awesome!

I'm kind of an old curmudgeon who prefer's guns in calibers that start with "4" so keep that in mind when I say the M-58 beats the M-28 in "KOOL" factor more than anything else.

If you can handle the weight, bulk and can control the recoil for fast follow-up shots, go for the M-58...but don't sell the M-28. You will regret it later if you do.

Dave

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PCSD (Ret)

For my eyes, the fixed sights are not fast enough. Other than that, I like my M58. My primary load in it is a modest velocity SWC, which will do anything I might expect to need, and is pleasant to shoot. It is likely to be less ugly to shoot than a hot .357. You can do the same with a 4" .44 and there is a far greater variety of ammo available.

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Great advice all

Update. Found a 3 inch 629 and ordered some buffalo bore
44 specials. Fits my ken null holster fine
Keeping the 28.

Von

Good for keeping the m28. The m629 / 3" is a good choice too.

An option to consider are night sights by Millet. I have them on 629 & 57 both 4", they are carried sometimes for self protection & hunting. They are listed as "drop in ", hopefully you have a good gunsmith, because they did not "Drop in ". 357,41,44 spl all will get the job done with the right bullet. Enjoy. Be Safe,

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I commend you on carrying a 28 , most of us would like to but don't. Not sure how much increase in power you want however the 44 has all levels available at less cost than the 41.

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Tommy

Get a 58. They are so cool.

Charlie