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Old 07-02-2018, 07:05 PM
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Here's an update. I figured I'd rather put it here than face the guffaws of the actual gunsmiths in the gunsmithing section.

I ordered a .22 Magnum cylinder reamer from 4D Reamers in Kalispell, MT. 34 bucks plus shipping. The rental is for 7 days, but they give you 17 days from when it is shipped to cover transit time. (Doyle is compelled to sit on all new mail.)



There is no handle, just the reamer. I bought a cheapo tap handle from Tractor Supply (8 bucks) but it wouldn't tighten enough to hold the reamer securely. I bought a slightly better one from Lowes that tightened like a drill chuck (15 bucks) and it worked fine. The cutting oil (4 bucks) from Tractor Supply was good.





Then I sat down, poured a glass, put War Horse on, and started twisting (over a trash can).



Initially I wrapped the cylinder with blue painter's tape, but the oil got on it and the tape just turned. I used a cloth and a good grip and started making progress.

It didn't seem like I was getting anywhere at first, but I took the reamer out often, sprayed it off with WD40, drenched it in oil, and before long the first chamber was done. The whole thing was done before War Horse was over.



Mixed bag of .22 WMRs chambered fine. At the range I had a hard time with the cylinder not wanting to close and being hard to cycle. Turns out some of the metal chips got under the ejector star. Once I blasted them out all was good. As as a bonus, .22 LRs and Shorts also shot and ejected just fine.



So there you have it. The forum friends who suggested the chambers were out-of-round were right, I think. When twisting the reamer there was a distinct "resistance/no resistance" feel. They are sure round now.

Thanks to all who chimed in. I hope this was helpful to someone.

Here is my dog Randy about to catch a ball, as a small bonus.

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Old 07-02-2018, 07:41 PM
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So you are shooting .22 Short/Long/Long Rifle and .22 mag through it with no problems? Donít forget .22 WRF.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:22 PM
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So you are shooting .22 Short/Long/Long Rifle and .22 mag through it with no problems? Donít forget .22 WRF.
Good point. I found a box in my stash and Iíll try them tomorrow.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:48 PM
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Here's an update. I figured I'd rather put it here than face the guffaws of the actual gunsmiths in the gunsmithing section.
Bravo! Feels good to fix something like this one's self.
The new 22WRF from Winch and CCI are very good including CCI's Defense load. And cheaper than 22 Mags when I find them.

How was the accuracy with non-magnum loads?
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Thanks for the update. And congratulations on successfully completing the job!! That is a fine looking revolver you have there, and now it is not only fixed, but much more flexible in Ammo choices than before.

PS.., Doyle is a fine looking "mail sitter", and Randy shows considerable althletic ability as well!!

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Old 07-02-2018, 09:02 PM
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Did you notice any bulged or split cases with you shot 22LR in your newly reamed 22 WMR cylinder?

I have a M650 in 22 WMR and wondered what would happen if I shot 22LR in it.

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Did you notice any bulged or split cases with you shot 22LR in your newly reamed 22 WMR cylinder.

I have a M650 in 22 WMR and wondered what would happen if I shot 22LR in it.
I shot 50 rounds of LR, and one case was split. None of the 30 or so shorts split. The accuracy seemed the same as before the operation, but I was mostly shooting for function.
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This is a most excellent thread everyone! Thanks to everyone for their contributions!
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You DO know that you should NOT shoot .22 magnums in it? The barrel is too tight. bore diameter for 22's is 223 and for 22 magnums it is 224
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You DO know that you should NOT shoot .22 magnums in it? The barrel is too tight. bore diameter for 22's is 223 and for 22 magnums it is 224
I doubt that .001 would cause a problem. Would be interesting to check the bore diameter of 10 22mag barrels and 10 22lr barrels of any manufacturer.
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My old S&W Model 34 has very tight cylinders. I'm wondering if it would help to run a 22 Long Rifle Reamer through them?

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Give Randy a pat on the head from all of us dog lovers on the forum!

And congratulations on fixing the problem with your cylinder.
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You DO know that you should NOT shoot .22 magnums in it? The barrel is too tight. bore diameter for 22's is .223 and for 22 magnums it is .224
It's not an issue of "should not shoot", it's an issue of accuracy deterioration.

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I doubt that .001 would cause a problem. Would be interesting to check the bore diameter of 10 22mag barrels and 10 22lr barrels of any manufacturer.
The groove diameter is what should be checked which are the measurements CAJUNLAWYER lists above; although for standard .22s the .223" is actually .222". The bore (lands) diameter is 0.217".
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It's not an issue of "should not shoot", it's an issue of accuracy deterioration.
There is a youtube video where a guy shoots 22LR in a convertible (22LR, 22WMR) revolver that came with two cylinders.

He saw a reduction in velocity of more than 300FPS (if I recall correctly) when he compared shooting LR from the WMR cylinder vs LR from the LR cylinder in the same revolver.

I'm think you are losing a lot of pressure from the undersized cases, at least for a short period until the LR case bulges enough to fill the chamber diameter.

So that's another issue along with accuracy deterioration.
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The 22LR and the 22Mag both run approx 24K PSI max chamber pressure.

Chambering & shooting the 22Mag down a 22LR spec bbl isn't something most factorys would do these days due to the dimension differences whatever small the difference, liability lawyers will just tell them not to.
Most every 22/22MAG conversion revolver uses a 22Mag dim bbl on the frame and supplied 2 separate cylinders to keep everyone happy.

In this case, the cyl gap will alleviate any pressure build-up as the very slightly oversize 22Mag bullet enters the .22LR sized bbl.

I really doubt it would make much difference in a closed system like a rifle as the Mag bullets though jacketed are so thinly encased that they quickly and easily swage down to the needed bore and groove size.
But that's just my opinion of course.

Anyway,,nice save on the cylinder and the revolver.
Someone probably got a bit carried away with a soft polishing fob and a Demel in those chambers.

Does (Popeye) Doyle sort & read the daily mail as well?
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Old 07-05-2018, 03:06 PM
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By the way, this week I shot some brass case 22s out of my 63. Had to push the ejector rod on the bench to get them to eject. Tried nickel plated brass and they came out readily without sticking.

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Nickel plated brass is stronger than just brass so doesn't expand as much.
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I have cured a couple of K-22's sticky extraction by cleaning the chambers with patches cut from a lead wipe-away cloth. I couldn't believe the amount of "crud" that came out of with those patches. I used several patches per chamber and followed them up with a regular cleaning patch and solvent.

Loaded cases drop right in now. Empties pop out with no more than a tap on the ejector rod.

It's easy and a lot cheaper than anything involving special tools, extra cylinders, and gunsmiths. If it doesn't work, you're out of one lead wipe-away cloth. And not a whole one of them.
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