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Just paid $800 for this 28-2 , impulse buy. Should I regret it?[[/PHP]
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No. Don't regret it. $800 might be a little high, but it's hard to go wrong with an ANIB Highway Patrolman, even a 6" example. Excellent revolvers and the box is a plus. Are the tools in that plastic wrap I see in the photo?
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No, not at all. That is a really nice gun; what I think a Smith & Wesson revolver should look like. Not too small, and with wooden grips that are not larger than the grip frame. A true classic. I have two brushed stainless X frame Smiths, but I am thinking about a carbon steel N frame for attractive traditional looks.

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It has the cleaning kit but no paperwork
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In the price range for that condition.
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Having hard time telling condition, I see no wear ring on cylinder, but the barrel has brush mark length wise , thinking it’s holster wear?
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You did good and you will never regret it. They are a nice gun to shoot.
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This side has some brush looking marks on barrel, almost looks like it got hit with a scotch brute pad.
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Unless there is something very wrong with the revolver that is not obvious you did pretty well. Had I been in the market I would have paid that price, though here in CA prices tend to run a tad high.
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Don't worry about the price...unless you are planning to sell it...If you like it ,,then enjoy the best revolver S&W ever made.
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I’ll be honest, I really did not know much about this gun before purchasing. Had no ideal it was a N frame. I do have a 629 in the same barrel shape, partial underlug 6”, but with the small grip, it felt like a smaller gun.
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Known as the extractor rod shroud. Typical on N frames. The only K frame that had it in that era was the Model 19 Combat Magnum.

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Those are called "Magna" stocks. The alternative was Target stocks. On the Highway Patrolman, Magna stocks were usually the standard, although this model could be ordered with Targets for a couple bucks more.
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It has the cleaning kit but no paperwork
During that time (mid- to late-1970s) it would have come with a spec sheet (parts list, etc.) a warranty card, a list of warranty stations and one or more brochures (holsters, ammo, knives). Brochures seem to have been loaded aboard at random.

It also would have had the NOX paper and probably a piece of tissue paper.
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Magna stocks, huh, funny name for such slim stocks. All my smiths ( 617; 60; 686p, 629) have the black combat grips. Always rub my 2nd finger behind the trigger guard. I like the way this one feels with the grip no larger than the frame, allowing a higher grip on the gun. I take a Dremel to my glocks trigger guards to give me higher grip.
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I think your "brushmarks" are factory. The model 28 was not polished to the same slick condition as 27s were, intentionally keeping the price down for us working men, and low bid police contracts. Same everywhere else just not slick as snot. LOL! I think you're fine with that one. I'm into a shooter grade no dash 28 for nearly $600, no box. Congratulations!
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So let me ask something. This is my first one with firing pin on the hammer. Do you leave an empty chamber under it, or is it safe to load all 6?
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very good, look close to or even unfired, finish looks good too. The brush marks all seem to look like that from the factory fro what I can tell from the picture. Maybe possible to find for 700 w the box but not for less where I live. I like it.
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So let me ask something. This is my first one with firing pin on the hammer. Do you leave an empty chamber under it, or is it safe to load all 6?
It's safe to load all six on Smith & Wesson's equipped with a hammer block action. Any of them made after about 1940? have the improved hammer block. Nothing to worry about on yours.
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I paid slightly less for a lightly used one with no box and a faint turn ring. Yours is a fine example of a well kept piece. You did fine. Actually a 6" 28-2 was my first handgun in 1969. So I bought another 50 years later, and I am looking at another tomorrow. They are no frills model 27's. Don't worry about a few dollars. Enjoy it. How can a few dollars compare with pride of ownership?
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In my area that price is good for a gun in that condition with the box.
I always set the hammer on an empty chamber but that is just an old habit

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Is that the deal of the century? No.

Is it a really great purchase and a good value? Absolutely!
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Introduced c. 1935. Before that, service stocks ended at the stock circle on the upper end. The Magna (not Magnum) stocks have the extension up the frame, sometimes referred to as a "horn." The Magna is an enhanced form of the service stock.

I suspect, but don't know, that "Magna" is derived from "Magnum" since the .357 Magnum was introduced at approximately the same time. The Registered Magnum was available with this style stocks (in the N frame size). The K frame size was also available. On the I frame, they didn't arrive on the scene until after the war.
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All my .357 models are 3" and I wanted a woods gun/ target gun. I've been checking pawn shops for a 6" k frame. Saw this one and had never heard of it. Looks like this model has a lot of fans. Robust gun, and since I have a 629, it fits my collection well. Hopefully I can get a nice holster that will fit both the 629 and 28. Any suggestions on a nice woods holster? Don't want a high riding one.
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Having the original box and the cleaning kit is a big thing so what you paid for this is in the ballpark, IMO. You can call S&W customer service and ask for the NOX paper. They will send it for free if they have it. As to the paperwork, if you're really intent on completing what was there originally, Gunbroker.com might have some listings.
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It has the brown oily paper, if that is the nox paper
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I think you did well. A little north or south of $800 seems to be the average for an N frame in good condition, especially with the original box and grips. You have a very clean example, congrats.
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That's it. Although I thought it was more waxed than oiled.

That's a very good deal, I think. It looks As New, In Box with Tools. It came with a lower grade finish sometimes called "brush blue" (I guess you see why!) I wouldn't bother with finding the paperwork, unless you intend to keep it as more or less a collector's piece. That doesn't mean you can't take it to the range and shoot it, but don't carry it around in a holster, unless you don't care about collector value.
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I bought it to shoot. But that doesn't mean I won't take care of it. I wouldn't have thought a holster wouldn't put much wear on it, but I will take your word.
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Regarding collector value, condition and originality are everything so even a little finish wear will decrease value. Just depends on where your priorities are. Either way, given the way prices continue to climb, as long as you take reasonable care of it you won't lose money if you decide to sell in the future.

Example: ten years ago I bought a M27-2 manufactured in the early 70's, as-new in the original box with all documents and accessories. It was unfired at the time of purchase. I've shot it, but haven't abused it. In spite of it being fired I could easily sell it for twice what I paid.

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Great purchase. It's in your hands NOW that makes it a bargain. I'd buy my second 28-2 at that price all day long. Great condition to my eye. Enjoy!
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Op, welcome to the Forum. You did great on that purchase. Virginia (most all places) is very gun friendly and that package would certainly bring 8 Benjamins all day long around here.

What type/style holster are you thinking for "woods carry". The N frame, especially a 6" is fairly bulky, so certainly requires a rather stiff supporting gun belt, like 2 inch Galco or similar. With the holster do you prefer leather, or Kydex, or other man-made synthetics? Uncle Mikes at Wally world will fit and work very basically at under $15 around here, but the brand name leathers usually start in the $90 to $110 arena. Also what type of retention system do you like for your revolvers, thumb break, trigger full enclosure (molded style), none ? Western style, etc.

When you are out in the woods, do you carry extra ammo or just the six in the gun? Speedloaders, strips, loose bulk, belt loops, ... the choices just keep coming at you like we all know, and that is another thing about this Forum.... we ALL WILL HELP you spend your money and all we ask in return is for a few crummy photos of whatever we have "helped" you with.

There is of course also shoulder rigs for chest carry, cross draw, probably a bazillion choices and that's all just factory stuff..then you get into custom made "just for you, your measurements, your style, your choice of material and degree of leather craftsmanship you want.....true one of a kinds.

If you ever think about custom.... you are on the right forum as some of these Members are the real thing when working with custom leather goods.... I'm saving my money now to begin discussions with a member on a custom for my snubby EDC gun.

Good luck with all your choices. Get that 28 to the nearest range and crank some out...you will not regret it.
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That's it. Although I thought it was more waxed than oiled.

That's a very good deal, I think. It looks As New, In Box with Tools. It came with a lower grade finish sometimes called "brush blue" (I guess you see why!) I wouldn't bother with finding the paperwork, unless you intend to keep it as more or less a collector's piece. That doesn't mean you can't take it to the range and shoot it, but don't carry it around in a holster, unless you don't care about collector value.
The later NOX is more waxed than oiled and what's nice is it comes with pictures of S&W revolvers on the dry side. Can't get more OEM than that.
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You can safely carry 6 rounds in your 28. There is an internal hammer block safety that will not allow the hammer to reach the primer unless the trigger is pressed fully to the rear. So in theory, you could hold the trigger down and fan the hammer to rotate the cylinder and fire the rounds as the hammer falls. Not recommended however, you will cause increased wear on almost all of the internal parts, and you won't hit ****. IT'S ONLY AN EXAMPLE OF HOW THE GUN COULD GO OFF MORE THAN ONCE WITH ONLY ONE PULL OF THE TRIGGER. All six rounds in their chambers is safe.
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$800 is a tad high, but the gun is a keeper so no worries. One LGS here has a 4" marked at about a grand, I don't think it'll sell at that price.
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Just paid $800 for this 28-2 , impulse buy. Should I regret it?[[/PHP]
Last summer we wanted to go out to dinner for sea food. We decided on lobster, fresh lobster. That is no easy task living in Arizona. We drove to Maine and had lobster, to Virginia for crab cakes, to Florida for shrimp and over to Galveston for some more. Of course we had plenty of other stops along the way for other regional foods. The point being, in regard to your question of over paying, you do know what all that sea food turned into, inside the human body. We did not overpay for poo, your HP will not turn to poo. Use it in good health, it will outlive you.
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Easily a fair price. Take a look at what you get now for 800 bucks..
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On the holster, was thinking a nice woven leather thumb break, belt rig, low riding.
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What's not to like? You did ok on tis deal. Congrats!
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I didn’t know anything about that model or it’s value, it was an impulse buy and wasn’t sure of myself. Looks like a popular model and I got a fair deal on it. Hopefully I’ll get out to shoot it here in the next couple weeks and see if it’s something I want to keep. I never get emotionally attached to one unless I can hit with it.
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That's a fair price on a nice package.

I have the twin to yours in 4 inch, LNIB, total package and also paid $800.00.
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Hey, for a gun like that, why not go "whole hog" on something to carry it in. Go to the El Paso Saddlery website and order you a nice, hand tooled, belt and holster rig. You will never regret it. Also, you should be able to carry your 629 in the same holster. You bought a great gun. Got one just like it that was made in 1964. Enjoy.
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Yes, started looking at el Paso. I'm wondering if I'd like a flap to holster, Indiana Jones kinda thing?
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I just picked up a very clean 4” M28-2 at a pawn shop for $750 today. No box. No tools. No paperwork and am very happy. It was priced much higher but you gotta do the dance. Lol
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I bought it to shoot. But that doesn't mean I won't take care of it. I wouldn't have thought a holster wouldn't put much wear on it, but I will take your word.
Get a good lined holster and a suitable, sturdy belt. People who just use light trousers belts are often amazed at how much difference a proper gun belt makes.

I have a M-66-3 that I carried at work for over 20 years, and the finish shows almost no wear. I used Bianchi and Safariland lined holsters. I do prefer high riding holsters, as they don't rub the car seat. They also lessen the effect of weight and are more out of the way.

Today, I'd get a nice used Safariland Model 29 holster or the El Paso Model 2, virtually the same. If you want to look like a drugstore cowboy, get floral carving. Or, just border trim or plain leather. I prefer basketweave stamping.

Bianchi's Model 111 Cyclone should be a fine field holster, wearable either right hand or crossdraw.

Most holsters for M-629 will fit Model 28 and other N-frame guns of the same barrel length.
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Yes, started looking at el Paso. I'm wondering if I'd like a flap to holster, Indiana Jones kinda thing?
Did you watch, The Lost World on TV, 1999-2002 for new episodes? If you liked their holsters, try the Bianchi Model 16. May not still be made. I have one for a six-inch barrel M-19/66. I HATE snap-on holsters, but a good shoe shop can probably sew the belt loop solid.

El Paso Saddlery offers some flap holsters, but I really feel your best bets are holsters I already mentioned.

You seem very new to revolvers. Get Elmer Keith's, Sixguns and Geoffrey Boothroyd's, The Handgun. Read them thoroughly and study all photos. Your knowledge will increase enormously.

Picture how you'll wear the holster in the woods. Do you really want to sit on a log in a low-riding holster? Of course, you can just wear the gun belt low, like some TV cowboys did. Experience will teach you how to wear the belt for best effect.

If wearing a rifle on the right shoulder, try crossdraw. That's largely why I mentioned Bianchi's Model 111 holster. I also like WW II style German holsters for the Browning M-35 or the P-38. Using those cross draw with a 9mm, etc. auto pistol is a very good way to carry a handgun when you also have a rifle. And the holsters have a pouch for a spare magazine. I think a 9mm will kill an alligator, if you know just where to hit it. Same for bears or cougars, but your .357 and .44 Magnums are even better in that role.

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Thanks, though I'm not new to revolvers, just never heard of the m28 before. Guess because my interest was always with K frames. And I have never had a owb holster before ( except for cap guns when I was a kid). Been shooting paper targets, steel, and pine cones my whole life. Thinking about doing some hog hunting, got a m&p 10 set up very nice and want a nice set up for handgun. Was thinking that a flap holster would be more secure and protect the gun better from the elements.elements
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You did fine at $800. I had a guy try to convince me my 28-2 unfired was only worth $550. I kindly let him know that his budget, however low it was, does not dictate fair market value. This happened a month ago. You wanted the gun, you bought it. It's beautiful. Don't look back. I decided not to sell mine so I still have it.
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You're asking this group of enablers? Assuming this isn't going to break you, never worry about overpaying a little bit for something you want - and BTW, I don't think you overpaid.

If you don't know it yet, the M28 is one of the finest shooting revolvers ever made. I liked my 4" so much that I just recently purchased this 6" from 1968. Probably good for my bank account that they didn't make a 3, 5, 6.5, or 8 incher!

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