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Here in Massachusetts it's a felony to THINK about a gun without a lock on it! I wonder what it's like to live in a free country?
Its wonderful I like Doc keep guns where I might need them, and here in Tennessee a vehicle is considered an extension of your home as well.
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Oh by the way, the Bodyguard .380, Kel-Tec P3AT and Ruger LCP .380 renditions are designed to be visor guns. They tuck away behind a pull down sun visor so conveniently! Don't let anybody fool you, .380 will kill just as quick as the flying ash tray useless .45 caliber round.

Did you know it is a 9 mm round 9x17. The shoot a bullet only 100 per second slower that the 9x19 luger round and at 100 grains which is only 15 grains lighter than the 9x19 Luger!

I really like the S&W Bodyguard .380. S&W got it right, they used a steel frame, not aluminum and steel steel roll pins, not plastic pegs to hold it together and that double strike capability is a REAL LIFE SAVER!
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Not that a 380 can't be very lethal (hey James Bond used one), but to equate a 100gr bullet at an optimistic 1000fps with a "useless" 200 gr 45 caliber one going 850fps is quite a leap of faith. I wonder why all the police departments, FBI, and other alphabet soup don't go to the 380/ They have pretty well left the 45 acp, true, but not because of its killing power. It lost favor because recoil management by most people and round count is the big reason.

You like your 380. fine. I am happy for you. I could care less if you want to pack it or even a 22lr. Hey, the 22 has killed and will kill lots of people. It is my choice to pack a 45 acp and if I have to defend myself or mine I guess I will just hope the assailants I shoot with its "useless" bullets get real annoyed and decide to just go away.

Useless, useless, jeez O Pete. Lot of ground being occupied by corpses from a 45.

Rant complete. Have a nice day.
Uh OH! seems I pissed off a 1911 lover! Do a little reading and you will find out that smaller faster bullets do more damage. .380 (9x17) .38 S&W, .38 special, 357 magnum, 357 Sig 9x19 Luger and 9x25 and 38 super all leave the same size hole which is .355 of an inch in diameter. I remember a demo where a Navy Pee Coat was folded in half and then in half again and the .45 ACP could not make it through! We all went out and bought Browning Hi Power 9x19, the whole squad of 17 , and sold off our 1911 junkers.

By the way, Bond went from a .25 Beretta to a Wather PP ( Police Pistol) 7.625 or .32 caliber according to Ian Flemming, just saying
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Not a 1911 lover. I have one though and a bunch of 45 caliber S&W revolvers. I have done a lot of reading. Not many people are wearing 4 layers of heavy wool clothing. If I ever have an assailant that looks like he is wearing his entire winter wardrobe or a bullet proof vest I will try for a head shot.

I own some 357s, 38 specials and some S&W 32 revolvers from short to H&R mag.
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Don't plan on getting any either.

I have shot things from Elk to prairie dogs with every thing from a 22 lr to a 338WM. An 125# antelope wearing a thin leather jacket took 3 rounds from a very fast small 223 Remington before he fell down. A steer feel down dead with a 22lr to the brain. Everything I have shot with a big heavy bullet is dead. I have seen a fast 105 gr 243 bullet deflected enough by a rib that it made a good shot into a poorer one where a slower 150 gr 308 bullet would have probably stayed the coarse. Lot more to it than speed.

Each to there own. Good luck.

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I don't keep a gun in my car. If I'm in the car, I have one on me. If I'm not in the car, I don't need one there.

I also have to go into Maryland, Delaware, and New Jersey from time to time. The fewer guns I have to worry about getting out of the car the better.

I have no objection to anyone else keeping one there however.

Oh, to the OP. Nice Model 28. For some reason I LIKE the looks of Pachmayrs on a Model 28.
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If you leave a gun in a car in Arizona you better not need it. You will get 2nd degree burns if you try to pick it up. Heck you can literally fry an egg on the dashboard.
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If you leave a gun in a car in Arizona you better not need it. You will get 2nd degree burns if you try to pick it up. Heck you can literally fry an egg on the dashboard.
Recently I went to a shooting pit on a mere 90 degree day with my SIG braced M92 in the trunk. The normally turgid rubber was almost too soft to be useful as a stock, and it rotated very easily around the tube. Good thing to figure out!
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Just when is it my fault, when I leave it on the seat? under the seat? in the glove compartment? Car locked, car unlocked, broken out of a lock box in car? from my house door unlocked? door locked? cheap safe broken into? price point on safe required it isn't my responsibility? From a steel reinforced concrete vault with a heavy steel door? Just when is it my fault and not the *** thief.

Who gets to draw the line, a gun hating flaming liberal or some good ole boy on a ranch in the middle of no where?
Could not agree more with this statement.
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Personally, I was hoping to see the pic of the Pre model 10.....
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1911 junk lovers are all the same! Very defensive of the biggest piece of junk every to be scrapped by our military, THANK GOD!

ref: Smith & Wesson Model 39 - Wikipedia

Our military hated the 1911 and for good reason! The design was terrible! Let's take a look st some of the points of contention!

. Big Heavy Rust Magnet!
. Shoots a big heavy slow bullet
. Split feed ramp, 1/2 on the fame that doesn't the other 1/2 on the
barrel throat that does move creating misalignment when the barrel link
wears and the tongue and groove breach lock wears!
. Staked on parts that vibrate loose over time such as the ejector and the
locking pin tube on the grip that vibrates loose. The front sight!
. Putting the main spring in a rust magnet chamber at the extreme but of
the grip that is exposed to water when the weapon is holstered. That
flexing coil main spring flakes off in to rust particles that clog the spring
and causes light strikes from deteriorated spring tension.

I could go on and on about the terrible design of the 1911 however you get the picture. The military spent years servicing them because more than 1/3 were in the armories getting fixed and not on the battlefield!

That's why the Military asked S&W to make them a 9 mm gun as seen in the aforementioned reference material way back in the 1940's. Please take the time to go read it. The 1911 is a nice paper weight or small boat anchor but I would NEVER trust my life to one!

The only pistol weapon I trust my life too is a Glock or a S&W M&P series or a S&W Revolver. Since I am still here to make this statement, it seems to have worked out very well for me! Plus I don't have to pull my pants up all day long toting a boat anchor on my belt. Just saying! This is 2018 not 1911. You don't drive a 1911 car do you???
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I guess model 39's don't rust!? Not only is retied cop trying to rewrite the laws of physics, but now he wants to rewrite the laws of chemistry too! Of course history is not immune. Did you know that the design of that S&W revolver that you are betting your life on pre dates that boat anchor 1911?
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Here in Massachusetts it's a felony to THINK about a gun without a lock on it! I wonder what it's like to live in a free country?
A number of years ago, someone posted a picture of a flintlock musket that was on display in a glass case in some Massachusetts museum. The musket had a trigger lock on it!!! I believe the curator had the lock removed after a number of protests.
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A number of years ago, someone posted a picture of a flintlock musket that was on display in a glass case in some Massachusetts museum. The musket had a trigger lock on it!!! I believe the curator had the lock removed after a number of protests.
That is absolutely true. I personally saw that rifle, with the orange lock on it, on display in the State House in Boston.
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The Smith & Wesson Model 39 was a semi-automatic pistol developed for the US Army service pistol trials of 1954. After the Army abandoned its search for a new pistol, the Model 39 went on the civilian market in 1955 and was the first of Smith & Wesson's first generation semi-automatic pistols
According to your own source, the Army found it couldn't improve on the 1911 and abandoned it's search for a new pistol.

BTW, if you don't want your pants to fall down use a shoulder holster, that's how I carry mine.
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I left a Colt 1903 in 32 acp in the car for a long time - everything depends on the risk you are willing to take - same with the thread on BBQ guns, carrying guns 24/7 for those folks who feel un-safe - carrying in your vehicle, WHERE you live, etc.

For me, it was realizing that I was traveling into New Jersey and if I got into an accident I was screwed, even tho I had a Penn CCW....

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Not that a 380 can't be very lethal (hey James Bond used one), but to equate a 100gr bullet at an optimistic 1000fps with a "useless" 200 gr 45 caliber one going 850fps is quite a leap of faith. I wonder why all the police departments, FBI, and other alphabet soup don't go to the 380/ They have pretty well left the 45 acp, true, but not because of its killing power. It lost favor because recoil management by most people and round count is the big reason.

You like your 380. fine. I am happy for you. I could care less if you want to pack it or even a 22lr. Hey, the 22 has killed and will kill lots of people. It is my choice to pack a 45 acp and if I have to defend myself or mine I guess I will just hope the assailants I shoot with its "useless" bullets get real annoyed and decide to just go away.

Useless, useless, jeez O Pete. Lot of ground being occupied by corpses from a 45.

Rant complete. Have a nice day.
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It gets hot here too. I carry one in the glovebox between the seats and one in the door. They don't get any hotter than the air temperature in the car. Try to park in the shade too. I will take a picture of the old pre model 10 too since several want to see it. Will take a moment since I don't have one on hand.
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If retired cop wants to pack a 380 thats fine. Just as long as he doesn't put somebodies eye out with it.
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Here's the old 1949 pre Model 10. I paid $200 for it in 2016. The Sambar Stags (worth more than the $200) came off, and I figure I got the gun for free. Not a bad looking gun after 2 years in the truck. Now it sits "loaded" on the table next to my TV chair. I already had the spare grips in my box o grips.
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The old saying " One must know his limitations" comes to mind with this
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Use the gun as it is meant, rather than than the bulk it has evolved!

An N frame in any caliber will solve any anti social situatations!
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Not that a 380 can't be very lethal (hey James Bond used one)
James Bond's PPK was in 7.65mm.


Here in Memphis you don't leave anything in your truck overnight if you value it, I do leave my speed loader in my console since the crooks don't usually carry revolvers. They look kind of stupid when you hold them sideways.
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1911 junk lovers are all the same! Very defensive of the biggest piece of junk every to be scrapped by our military, THANK GOD!

ref: Smith & Wesson Model 39 - Wikipedia

Our military hated the 1911 and for good reason! The design was terrible! Let's take a look st some of the points of contention!

. Big Heavy Rust Magnet!
. Shoots a big heavy slow bullet
. Split feed ramp, 1/2 on the fame that doesn't the other 1/2 on the
barrel throat that does move creating misalignment when the barrel link
wears and the tongue and groove breach lock wears!
. Staked on parts that vibrate loose over time such as the ejector and the
locking pin tube on the grip that vibrates loose. The front sight!
. Putting the main spring in a rust magnet chamber at the extreme but of
the grip that is exposed to water when the weapon is holstered. That
flexing coil main spring flakes off in to rust particles that clog the spring
and causes light strikes from deteriorated spring tension.

I could go on and on about the terrible design of the 1911 however you get the picture. The military spent years servicing them because more than 1/3 were in the armories getting fixed and not on the battlefield!

That's why the Military asked S&W to make them a 9 mm gun as seen in the aforementioned reference material way back in the 1940's. Please take the time to go read it. The 1911 is a nice paper weight or small boat anchor but I would NEVER trust my life to one!

The only pistol weapon I trust my life too is a Glock or a S&W M&P series or a S&W Revolver. Since I am still here to make this statement, it seems to have worked out very well for me! Plus I don't have to pull my pants up all day long toting a boat anchor on my belt. Just saying! This is 2018 not 1911. You don't drive a 1911 car do you???


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Uh OH! seems I pissed off a 1911 lover! Do a little reading and you will find out that smaller faster bullets do more damage. .380 (9x17) .38 S&W, .38 special, 357 magnum, 357 Sig 9x19 Luger and 9x25 and 38 super all leave the same size hole which is .355 of an inch in diameter. I remember a demo where a Navy Pee Coat was folded in half and then in half again and the .45 ACP could not make it through! We all went out and bought Browning Hi Power 9x19, the whole squad of 17 , and sold off our 1911 junkers.

By the way, Bond went from a .25 Beretta to a Wather PP ( Police Pistol) 7.625 or .32 caliber according to Ian Flemming, just saying
I presume by your user name that you are a retired police officer. What type and caliber of handgun did you carry while on the force? You don't have a military emblem by your name; did you serve in the armed forces?
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1911 junk lovers are all the same! Very defensive of the biggest piece of junk every to be scrapped by our military, THANK GOD!

ref: Smith & Wesson Model 39 - Wikipedia

Our military hated the 1911 and for good reason! The design was terrible! Let's take a look st some of the points of contention!

. Big Heavy Rust Magnet!
. Shoots a big heavy slow bullet
. Split feed ramp, 1/2 on the fame that doesn't the other 1/2 on the
barrel throat that does move creating misalignment when the barrel link
wears and the tongue and groove breach lock wears!
. Staked on parts that vibrate loose over time such as the ejector and the
locking pin tube on the grip that vibrates loose. The front sight!
. Putting the main spring in a rust magnet chamber at the extreme but of
the grip that is exposed to water when the weapon is holstered. That
flexing coil main spring flakes off in to rust particles that clog the spring
and causes light strikes from deteriorated spring tension.

I could go on and on about the terrible design of the 1911 however you get the picture. The military spent years servicing them because more than 1/3 were in the armories getting fixed and not on the battlefield!

That's why the Military asked S&W to make them a 9 mm gun as seen in the aforementioned reference material way back in the 1940's. Please take the time to go read it. The 1911 is a nice paper weight or small boat anchor but I would NEVER trust my life to one!

The only pistol weapon I trust my life too is a Glock or a S&W M&P series or a S&W Revolver. Since I am still here to make this statement, it seems to have worked out very well for me! Plus I don't have to pull my pants up all day long toting a boat anchor on my belt. Just saying! This is 2018 not 1911. You don't drive a 1911 car do you???

Wow....perhaps you need a course in anger management?

"Anger management (aka: caffeine management) training can help people identify stressors. People learn steps to help them stay calm. They may then handle tense situations in a constructive, positive way."

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