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What’s in the world is so special about this model 66? I see that it has a cutout for a trigger stop, but what is so special about that? All four of my Combat magnums have the cutouts. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/776963319

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My guess is that someone got into a bidding war. Probably doesn’t intend to pay for it either. Or it was owned by someone famous. Or it comes with a gold nugget....
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They can buy mine for half that amount, but they won't get a box.
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All the older (better) stuff seems to be rocketing in price. Also, seems only a few years ago you could still find an occasional great deal on a rarer gun at a gun show or pawn shop. Nowadays it's just new plastic Glocks, Rugers, and M&Ps. Everybody seems to be hoarding the "good stuff", so when a really nice older gun that's been taken care of comes up for sale, people are willing to pay for it. (Just look at how all the Colt Snakes have gone ballistic in price, even the "lowly" Detective Specials.)
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Someone who needs the perfect model 66 to complete a collection?
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All my handguns are worth $2,600 or more.

Any out there willing to pay it, please send
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Interesting, the very first bid was $996, and that was followed by a total of 38 bids. One individual evidently really wanted this, were only two other bidders, but one was at $2500.

I'd love to know the story on this one.
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Maybe just two stubborn people with money to burn or schills, who knows...
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Guys, read the ad.
Very first line,

It's a model 66 -1.

It's the dash 1.
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OP, if you dont see $2525, you are in the wrong spot! WINK!
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Guys, read the ad.
Very first line,

It's a model 66 -1.

It's the dash 1.
Why is that a big deal? That was a 5-6 year time period of high production, right? Should be scads of -1s though, yes, not very many snubs.
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A very desirable model of a classic revolver; that appears to be unfired, with the box and all the assorted factory goodies. The sellers write up was direct and to the point.

As someone who had been known to overpay for something I really want. I hope the buyer will not have a serious case of buyer’s remorse. I also hope that one, Big Dollar, sale will not raise the bar price wise across the board.
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No turn line? That only means it might need smithing
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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.
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Guys, read the ad.
Very first line,

It's a model 66 -1.

It's the dash 1.

I did read the first line along with the sellers write up, neither one justifies, to me, the final price.
Now if you just can't live without a 2 1/2" model 66-1, I've got an extra one I'd be willing to let you have for $1,750.00. Hell at that price, I'll even throw in a period correct box, factory paper work, and an unopened cleaning kit. Or, if you're into classics how about an un-fired nickel finished model 19-4 at the same price.
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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.
You need to go re read the book. The dash 1 in stainless revolvers wasn't as rare as the dash one in all the blued steel models. Basically the 66 and 66-1 were the P&R revolvers. The -1 and late no dash models switched to blued sights and I think the gas ring switched somewhere but that's avout it. The -2 models did away with P&R.
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This can be danced around for days but, in short,
that gun at that price is nuckin futz.
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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.

I have a 66-1, and 2 586-1's.
-1's aren't necessarily rare. Some -1 models are rarer than others but for the most part, the -1 in itself isn't any more desirable in my experience than other dash numbers, besides the fact that older S&W's tend to be more valuable than newer ones and some of the dash variants had mechanical or design features that some people desire over others. The 28-1 is a single instance of a very low run that isn't mirrored by other -1's.


Here are a few 14-1's if you were still looking
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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.
The 66-1 is fairly common. I picked up three last night.
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I can see this tread having some real potential along with some much needed schooling.
As there is nothing on TV but POTUS bashing, I'm going to get out the Jiffy Pop and open a cold one and see where this ends up
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I have a 66-1, and 2 586-1's.
-1's aren't necessarily rare. Some -1 models are rarer than others but for the most part, the -1 in itself isn't any more desirable in my experience than other dash numbers, besides the fact that older S&W's tend to be more valuable than newer ones and some of the dash variants had mechanical or design features that some people desire over others. The 28-1 is a single instance of a very low run that isn't mirrored by other -1's.


Here are a few 14-1's if you were still looking
https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/...13&PageSize=24

And without even following your link, I'll bet that sellars is einnic or something, with stupid prices and the guns are imports with proofmarks on barrels or frames.
Not interested in those or those stupid prices.
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The 66-1 is fairly common. I picked up three last night.
Like I said,
As a general rule of thumb.
Geesh, if there so common, then ask that buyer.
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I can see this tread having some real potential along with some much needed schooling.
As there is nothing on TV but POTUS bashing, I'm going to get out the Jiffy Pop and open a cold one and see where this ends up

This forum is like a pack of hyenas, just waiting to pounce on an opinion.
I was warned about this hole, now its come true.
Didnt even make 100 posts.

Nice way to treat new members, mods your a joke. Sells adds though, right.
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I cant get any notifications either, not working.
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I've got a 57-1 that I used to think was run of the mill, but now I'm startn ta think I might need to send it off to GB!
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This forum is like a pack of hyenas, just waiting to pounce on an opinion.
I was warned about this hole, now its come true.
Didnt even make 100 posts.

Nice way to treat new members, mods your a joke. Sells adds though, right.
Sorry your feelings got hurt. However, you asked for opinions on your OP and they are handed out freely in any forum.
Other than politicians, you won’t find a more opinionated bunch than gun nuts. I Have been on the other Smith forum and it is the same there.
As for the rarity of dash 1 guns, there are exceptions to almost everything Smith. Also, were you to hang around and do some research on older threads, you would see that the assertion ‘about -1 rarity is not the only error in the SCSW.
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Without talking to the two bidders who ran the price so high, who knows why it went so high. The description stated the gun was a consignment. Maybe there was a very sentimental reason why two guys wanted the same gun. Might it have belonged to their father who passed away and their mother was selling it?

None of us here will likely ever know the answer. But who really cares? Doesn't much matter to me if a gun sells for 12 cents or 12 thousand dollars. Someone wanted it and bought it for a price they were willing to pay. Yes, it certainly can be used as a point of education on a forum such as this, and that's a good thing. But, good grief, it really does not have to turn into a whizzing match.
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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.

A 1961-1962 Model 66-1 would be extremely rare!
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I was warned about this hole, now its come true.
Didnt even make 100 posts.

Nice way to treat new members, mods your a joke. Sells adds though, right.
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Didnt even make 100 posts.

Nice way to treat new members, mods your a joke. Sells adds though, right.
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You opined that a 66-1 was rare and likened it to the 1960-61 dash one variations of the blued steel revolvers at which time there was a brief period of time where the threads were changed on the ejector rod yet the fourth screw was maintained. That comparison simply does not apply to the stainless series of Smiths. This was gently pointed out to you several times and you suddenly blew a gasket, insulted the members and the moderators and opened yourself up to some well deserved ridicule (which you have not gotten by the way). I'll say it again for you, the 66-1 is not a rare gun. The 14-1, 19-1, 28-1, 27-1, 15-1, 18-1, 17-1, ans so forth ARE scarce. The 66-1, 67-1, 65-1 are NOT scarce.
The 66 made a subject of this post went for a crazy insane price which is totally unwarranted regardless of whether it was a 66 or a 66-1. I had a 66-1 that I sold recently for $700 with box and tools. Quite frankly, I would rather have a 66.
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Extremely rare indeed. What, maybe 8-10 years before S&W's first production SS revolver hit dealer's shelves??? And that was an M60 IIRC...
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But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.
IMO, your post is more of a profound statement than an opinion. But regardless, is incorrect. I'm sorry if you don't like it here but learning about S&W's (from some fine and knowledgeable folks) is my main stay here.
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I seriously doubt the sale was completed.

If the gun had been a Super K model 66 perhaps two collectors might go mano a mano.

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...maybe he should take up golf...

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...maybe he should take up golf...
If he thinks this place is offensive wait till he misses a four footer or hits one in the pond. Golf is no game for snowflakes.
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Now you just stop with those mean and thoughtless comments. I'm offended
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Oh Good Gosh...you work for a couple of days and miss all the fun..Skwirl I hope you get some skin toughener and stay, this thread ain't worth no one leaving over...but that there pic with the squirrel playing Golf is just a bit funny mmmmk...
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[QUOTE=gr8;140104595]I seriously doubt the sale was completed.

If the gun had been a Super K model 66 perhaps two collectors might go mano a mano.

Positive has been feedback given from seller to buyer...
and buyer to seller.
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I am center middle class. Thanks mostly to my wifes income. But my best friend of 30 years always has 5 grand in his pocket and often another 25k in his back back. Neither means anything to him. $2k for something he really wants? Not even a blink. His grand kids wont have to work. Lots of folks would spend and extra $1,500 without thought. Maybe the winner wanted it to show off to his/her friends? Someone paying an extra grand never surprises me.

My friend is late middle age and is physically the most unhealthy guy I know. He is too miserable to care. And I constantly worry that I am going to get a call that he killed himself. No off switch.

Wealth doesn’t make you happy. But I am more then willing to find out for myself. Who knows? Who knows?
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And without even following your link, I'll bet that sellars is einnic or something, with stupid prices and the guns are imports with proofmarks on barrels or frames.
Not interested in those or those stupid prices.
Lol, sure buddy.

Well, that post says enough about you to be all I need to know. Carry on.
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Makes me think about putting my NIB Model 66 no dash, 2.5 inch up for sale.
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Tell me about it...I hope those 2 bidders are interested in the P&R 629 no dash I listed yesterday. I swear I haven't been able to sell that darn thing. With my luck, it will sell for $600 (no reserve).

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I would have to consult my 4th edition concerning a model 66.

But,
As a general rule of thumb,
A -1 anything is rare.
Applies for only a year or 2. 1961 thru 1962.
It applies across all model numbered guns.
Try and find a dash 1 anything. I've been looking for a m14-1, there isn't any other than import marked ones.
Then there's the only one known to exist, a model 28-1. The only one known. Let that sink in for a second.
My brother traded a KelTec P3AT with pocket holster, a couple of hundred rounds of ammo, and the little zippered case for the S&W Model 65-1 that he just gave me. (And the trader was thrilled with the deal!) The pinned and recessed S&W is marked on the left side MPD 55, so I assume it was a police issue gun. (I haven't had it lettered yet.) It came with some God awful N-frame grips that were made to fit the K-frame with plastic wood and thinned through the panel area. Put Pachmayr Grippers on it temporarily and it shoots like a dream.

Model 65. Dash 1. Pinned. Recessed. For a KelTec. Amazing.

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