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Old 07-25-2018, 11:34 AM
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I had intended to draw a 629 with an 8-3/8" barrel. But once I put the grip and frame on the paper I realized I made it waaaaay to big for the super long barrel. It's my first time on a sketch pad and the size is about double of what my other drawings are.

Some of the aspects bug the heck out of me, but I think it's getting there.

I can't decide if I want to do no flutes or flutes..... You guys vote.... I personally prefer flutes, but some guys like no flutes.

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I vote for flutes—more true to mountain gun design and I just think flutes add character and interest to an image—but what do I know—lol?
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Flutes for me too. They just looks right to me.
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Old 07-25-2018, 02:12 PM
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Yeah, like I said, I'm partial to flutes too.
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It's for sure getting there!

A wise soul once told me to write like I talk. It occurs to me to tell you to draw what you see---all of it. In this case, you saw and drew (some of) the underside of the frame and trigger guard opening---and a little bit of the front of the frame. It pretty much figures you saw (some of) the underside of the trigger guard and the hammer too. There may be other nits to pick for you, but that's what jumped out at me.

I haven't been following this right along---saw the first and this one. You've come far----in a short time. That has to be very encouraging.

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Flutes for me too! Keep em coming! I'm lovin em!
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It's for sure getting there!

A wise soul once told me to write like I talk. It occurs to me to tell you to draw what you see---all of it. In this case, you saw and drew (some of) the underside of the frame and trigger guard opening---and a little bit of the front of the frame. It pretty much figures you saw (some of) the underside of the trigger guard and the hammer too. There may be other nits to pick for you, but that's what jumped out at me.

I haven't been following this right along---saw the first and this one. You've come far----in a short time. That has to be very encouraging.

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Roger that. Totally hear what you're saying. But there are a couple of issues with that. First, I think if you look dead on the frame, you see some of the underside. It's not a 90 degree, squared off deal. And secondly, I think possibly the angle and perspective of a lense on a camera skews things a bit.

However, On this drawing I admit to scrolling through about 6 different photos at various times to see different aspects of this particular revolver and I was not just using 1 picture. So that may be convoluting it somewhat.

ETA: I take back most of my excuse of what I said above and after reviewing the pics I've been using agree with what your saying. With seeing that much of the frame on the bottom, you'd more than likely see some of the hammer on the bottom too. GOOD CATCH. I will probably adjust that accordingly. Maybe show less of the frame on the underside. That might be one of the thing bugging me about it and I didn't even know it. There's a few other things bugging me about it, but I may just say "close enough". If I get into what bugs me, I might end up try to fix too much. And I think maybe possibly it's a relatively decent representation of a Mountain Gun.

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Progress has been made. Flutes installed and beveled edges on the cylinder. I tweaked a few dimensions here and there and I think got it a bit closer to what it should be.

Pre shaded mode (I'm still not sure I want to tackle all of those little bumps on the hogue grip.... Ugh. Or the lettering. The lettering scares me less though. And seems like it almost has to be there. LOL.:

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You bring up a good point: "And I think maybe possibly it's a relatively decent representation--------." (BOY----talk about a plethora of weasel words----think, maybe, possibly, fairly, relatively, decent!! But then again we're talking about art and artists here, so what you see is what you get; and there is no right or wrong---only what is so. What is so is it's your representation---not mine, nor anybody else.)

My son, an accomplished artist at age 12, took a box of colored pencils, and copied a head shot (color photograph) of Mario Andretti seated in his race car---copied---EXACTLY!! You'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between photo and drawing when he finished---and the disgusting part is it didn't take him very long to do it. By the same token, 4-5 years later, he did several oil paintings which can only be described as wildly abstract---and took awhile to reconcile the titles with what you saw.

The bottom line is when you create something from scratch with your hands, eyes, and brain; it is what you say it is--never mind what we, the great unwashed, may have to say about it.

That said, the addition of three little horizontal lines at the right front of the frame (ahead of the cylinder) made my day---as did the added detail between the cylinder and the recoil shield.

The bottom line is you've come far---and the most noteworthy improvement is the proportioning, which struck me as way off in the beginning (if you're the one who did the Victory model)---and now strikes me as dead on.

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I'm not trying to sound like a weasel. I'm just not wanting to be assuming either. I can see some things wrong with it still. I actually tweaked a few things.... So.... yeah, the thing is, I can see all that's wrong with it. It might be my personality. But I do think it looks like the gun in a pretty good way.

That is really neat about your son. What's really cool is somehow he discovered something he was really good at at such a young age. That had to build a lot of confidence.

I didn't really discover what I was really good at until I was about 17. I was an average athlete. Actually in some things I wasn't even average. My best sport was football, but I still was too small to be really good. I sucked at wrestling but started to win when I got a girlfriend when I was a sophomore. Otherwise I hadn't won 1 match from the time I was... pretty young. I think 10 or so. A cousin showed me some moves and I just didn't want to lose in front of her. I still did lose 2 matches that tournament. But the kid I beat was pretty tough and I had put a lot of experience to use.

I was a sort of OK baseball player. Not really.

Then at 17 I started to learn to Sing in a rock band, play guitar and drums and bass guitar and it was like the light went on. And I went, oh my goodness I'm home. I learned fast, I loved doing it and I obviously had a talent for it. I did work hard at it but I think some people just have certain talents. God makes us all different. I always wanted to be a better athlete, but it seemed like no matter how hard I practiced, I wasn't going to be as good as others. Wrestling was kind of a mental thing and I lacked confidence.

Anyways..... That was a long explanation for just trying to explain my reason for using that phrase. LOL.

Thank you for the kind words.

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It's done. It may be a mistake, but I'm not doing the lettering on the barrel. I don't like doing that billboard on the bottom of the frame either. Maybe one day I'll have the confidence to do all that. But at this point I feel like if I attempt that "Mountain Gun" lettering, I'm just going to make a mess...... LOL.

I feel like I have to overexpose a picture to get it to look like it does on the paper. That's why it looks so dark.

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Nice work..

If I draw a cat and a dog, you can't tell which one is the cat..
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