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Old 10-07-2018, 04:18 PM
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I have a 10-8 police trade-in that I picked up last week. I cleaned it up a bit, but I'm not sure if I should scrub harder and get that brown off, or if it's fine to leave and just keep it oiled. Pictures. Opinions.


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Old 10-07-2018, 04:54 PM
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I would leave it- it is more finish wear and a changing of the blue to a brown than actual rust
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:09 PM
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When bluing gets old and worn it turns to a more brown color.
Remove the brown and you will have bare metal.
Work over the finish , blue and brown with Turtle Wax Chrome polish and rust remover, follow the instructions . As you clean any areas with active red rust, a reddish color will be picked up on the rag. When this reddish color stops being picked up , you have removed all the active rust and will be left with blue or brown.
Back in day guns were browned because it was simpler to do. Browing still prtects from active rust just like blue.
Leave the brown , it's just the blue aging and to me looks better than bare metal.
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"Scrubbing harder" is definitely not the answer.

I would soak it in the beloved WD-40 for a few days (or weeks if required). That would loosen the rust without damaging the blued finish.
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:19 PM
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When we got guns traded in that had rust we would use 000 steel wool with WD-40. Just lightly rub, it will take just the rust off. This also works on nickle guns too.
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Old 10-07-2018, 05:40 PM
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I WOULD GO OVER THE ENTIRE REVOLVER WITH #0000 BRONZE WOOL. THIS WILL REMOVE ANY RUST, WITHOUT HARMING ANY REMAINING FINISH---WHETHER IT BE BLUE OR BROWN.....

AFTER BLOWING THE REVOLVER OFF WITH COMPRESSED AIR, TO REMOVE ANY WOOL FRAGMENTS FROM CREVICES, I WOULD APPLY A COUPLE OF COATS OF RENAISSANCE WAX TO PRESERVE THE REMAINING FINISH AND PROTECT ANY BARE SPOTS FROM RUSTING......
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NO STEEL WOOL, please! Just a rag and oil. If it irritates you that much, move it down the road. If your friends say, OH NO, its rusty, dont show it.
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NO STEEL WOOL, please! Just a rag and oil. If it irritates you that much, move it down the road. If your friends say, OH NO, its rusty, dont show it.
That's the best advice you've been given- wipe with a lightly oiled cloth occasionally. You don't need to wax anything unless you're looking for some busy work. That revolver may be a great shooter. Enjoy it as is.
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I thought that was "patina," which a seller would say is desirable and adds character! I would do the gentle bronze or steel wool with oil followed by wax. Then just shoot it and don't worry about it, and tell all your friends it is "patina," like you're proud of it and just roll with it! That gun still has a lot of miles left in it.
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Remove grips, soak in Kroil, 0000 bronze wool (steel wool will scratch and remove rust & bluing) wax, shoot, enjoy.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:36 PM
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Remove grips, soak in Kroil, 0000 bronze wool (steel wool will scratch and remove rust & bluing) wax, shoot, enjoy.
000 or finer steel wool and a light oil will not scratch the blueing it will barely remove the rust. Bronze wool can sometime add a brass color to it.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:39 PM
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I thought that was "patina," which a seller would say is desirable and adds character! I would do the gentle bronze or steel wool with oil followed by wax. Then just shoot it and don't worry about it, and tell all your friends it is "patina," like you're proud of it and just roll with it! That gun still has a lot of miles left in it.
Patina is generally green and on something copper...
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My guess: 20+ years in a Jordon style holster in all kinds of weather. In and out of squad cars and rubbing against seat belt buckles. It is what it is. Try some of the tips above and if you still don't like the results, it would be a good candidate for bead blast and some type of refinish.
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Old 10-07-2018, 11:58 PM
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Good old RIG, rust inhibiting grease is worth a try.
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Old 10-08-2018, 04:31 AM
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If you read up on Rust Bluing you will find that simply dropping that side plate into a pot of boiling water for 10 minutes will turn that red rust into Black Oxide. Yeah, moderate heat in the absence of Oxygen actually changes the molecular structure of Rust.

Learned that by actually doing a bit of Rust Bluing. Still amazed at how simple this process is. The downside is that now anytime I see anything with some Rust that needs attention all I can think is "need to boil that".
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Thanks for the replies guys!

When I first got it I did take a little 0000 Steel wool and oil to it and gently applied it to the questionable areas. Very little "rust" color came off on the rag. That's why I was wondering if it needed a bit more elbow grease, or if it was even rust. Subsequent wipes with a rag came off perfectly clean.

It does looks like the bluing is turning color. I can look at it in different light and it still looks black rather than brown. That's why I was a concerned about going deeper with the wool.

I'll leave it alone, keep it oiled, and keep an eye on it. I just needed some more educated opinions.

I personally love the worn blued look. It adds character.
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Old 10-08-2018, 08:46 AM
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I learned a lot in this thread. I think.
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I think you done good already. That's a shooter not a collector. Now go forth and "shoot-her".
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I'm in the I'm not sure that's even rust "camp". It does look more like.... weathering. I could be wrong. But I'd leave it as is for now. Keep it oiled.

I have heard some guys say to soak it in Automatic Tranny fluid for a few days might do the trick. I don't think I'd go to town too hard with anything. Other than a rag. At this point.

Just my 2 cents.
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What is the frame like under those rubber grips?
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Cold blue would also be an option. Easy too. I have an old Ruger Standard that plenty of bare spots and was very happy with the results.
I understand it will stop rust if properly cared for. Oil or wax after cleaning.
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^^^ Cold bluing can actually accelerate rust.
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I AGREE---NO STEEL WOOL, EVER ! ! !

I WOULD MUCH RATHER HANDLE A DRY WAXED WEAPON, THAN ONE COVERED IN OIL, THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO MY HOLSTER, MY HANDS AND MY CLOTHES.....

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IMHO---THAT IS NOT A GREAT SOLUTION TO THE PROBLEM.......
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I used the "Kroil and the lightest bronze wool I could find " method on a freckled but original Combat Masterpiece I have, and it worked good, but the finish wasn't as worn as that.

To me, if you have all the rust off of that gun, I like it the way it is...a LOT. Old cosmetically worn shooters in original condition are an awesome way to enjoy old historic guns without worrying about scratching up a museum piece. They actually look cooler than unused guns, too. Don't remove any more finish.
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There's a fascinating product called 'Buffalo Bore' (not the ammo). It's like a big Brillo pad, but the individual strands are wide, thin, and flat, like little knife blades. It has allowed me to remove surface rust without changing the underlying finish at all. Just takes the (proud) oxidized metal and leaves whatever blue is underneath without scratching or removing the finish. Don't know how they do it, but I experimented on loser guns and pressing hard didn't leave any scratches. Weird, but cool.
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I found very minimal rust there too, mostly on the palm-side/back of the grip frame. It was absolutely filthy under there though, a lot of gunk on the frame and rubber grip. But the bluing is still nice and intact.

Haven't had a chance to shoot her yet. My local gun range shut down for improvements. Hope it opens soon. I'm itchin' to put some rounds on paper.
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