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Old 01-10-2020, 01:34 PM
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So I have a set of Trausch grips on my 10-8. They are dog ugly, but oh-so comfortable and I swear they absorb the recoil better than the uncle mikes and new houges. Every time I pick up that revolver my hand falls right into place. And I love that hideous beaver tail on the back, it seems to keep me on target faster.

My question is, did Traucsh make grips for a K-frame round butt? I'd like to get a set for 64.

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Old 01-10-2020, 10:49 PM
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I just looked at my set of Trausch grips. I bet a round butt would fit. It looks like the Trausch grip could fit either one.
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:40 AM
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Interesting. I'll take mine off and see if they fit my 64 today.
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Old 01-11-2020, 10:15 AM
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Not to hijack, but I’ve been looking for a set of these if anyone is selling.
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Old 01-11-2020, 12:34 PM
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I took them off and tried them on the 64. The roll pin hole in the grip doesn't match up. But my roll pin is a bit loose on my 64 so I moved it flush and the grip fit on that one side. So I bet if the roll pin was removed, or a new hole for the pin was drilled in the rubber it would fit perfectly.
Now the problem is finding another set.

I wish somebody would start making this design again. It really is a great shooting grip.

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Old 01-11-2020, 01:37 PM
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I had 2 Trausch grips; they came on a couple of import French LE M10's. I traded one set, to someone here; kept the other.
GB has a couple of Manhurins with what I believe is the same grip. It wouldn't be the first time a guy bought a gun for the grips...

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Old 01-24-2020, 02:15 PM
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Found a set. They do fit a 64 round butt. I had to drill a couple of new holes for the roll pin, but it fits snug now. There is a small gap along the back seam, but nothing too bad, and it doesn't hinder anything. It must have to do with the shape of the handle. Overall it fits and feels just like the K square butt now. Love it!

Anyway, thanks! Can't wait to get out and shoot it... as soon as it stops raining...
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Old 01-24-2020, 03:19 PM
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I really like the Trausch grips I got on my French LEO 10-8. They are butt ugly, but they have a great ergonomic design. They make the gun very easy to shoot with heavy loads.
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I'll be the first dissenter. I have a newer Manurhin MR88 with Trausch grips and I'll refrain from saying "hate," but I dislike them. A lot.

I shoot a wide variety of 357 handguns and only this one wants to flip out of my hand(s).

My hands are not huge. A size XL glove fits me well. I feel like there is not enough room for my hand on the Trausch grips that come factory on the MR88.

I expected to LOVE the grips. They look impressive. But for me...after trying them...they suck. YMMV.
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So what, Trausch is like the Pachmayr of Europe or something?
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So what, Trausch is like the Pachmayr of Europe or something?
Yes, sort of, maybe... I don't know the size of the Trausch company. Probably smaller than Pachmayr but larger than a breadbox.

I added a photo of the model I complained about. While searching for the photo I read that Jacques Trausch died not long ago and Chapuis Arms took over ownership of the Trausch brand. (That's the same folks who make Manurhin now I think.)
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Yes, sort of, maybe... I don't know the size of the Trausch company. Probably smaller than Pachmayr but larger than a breadbox.

I added a photo of the model I complained about. While searching for the photo I read that Jacques Trausch died not long ago and Chapuis Arms took over ownership of the Trausch brand. (That's the same folks who make Manurhin now I think.)
Unfortunately, it was pretty much a personal business (at least the grip-making part), and Jacques Trausch passed away about five years ago. As far as I know, that ended production.

He also never set up a regular distribution network over here, although some importers brought his grips in on their own initiative. But most Trausch grips came indeed on surplus French police guns that were “repatriated”.

So you have to find them on the secondary market. And they will be mostly for those Ruger and S&W medium frame revolvers , plus Manurhin of course, carried by French police.

I’ve never read anything about Chapuis taking over. That would be good, but they likely wouldn’t make grips for the US competition
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I'll be the first dissenter. I have a newer Manurhin MR88 with Trausch grips and I'll refrain from saying "hate," but I dislike them. A lot.

I shoot a wide variety of 357 handguns and only this one wants to flip out of my hand(s).

My hands are not huge. A size XL glove fits me well. I feel like there is not enough room for my hand on the Trausch grips that come factory on the MR88.

I expected to LOVE the grips. They look impressive. But for me...after trying them...they suck. YMMV.

Can you take a few photos of your MR-88 to show how that apparent pin fts a hole in the crane? ??

I've noticed looseness in a lot of Ruger Security series guns, and think Manurhin wanted to eliminate that. Ruger solved the issue with the crane lock on their GP and SP guns.

How do you like the MR-88, apart from your dislike of the grips?

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Can you take a few photos of your MR-88 to show how that apparent pin fts a hole in the crane? ??

I've noticed looseness in a lot of Ruger Security series guns, and think Manurhin wanted to eliminate that. Ruger solved the issue with the crane lock on their GP and SP guns.

How do you like the MR-88, apart from your dislike of the grips?
First impressions are lasting impressions and Freedom Arms really upped my expectation of what a gun can be. I describe the Freedom Arms revolvers as "monolithic." They feel like one big, perfect piece of metallic sculpture and I am still surprised every time I see that the parts move. I had that kind of expectation when I first bought the Manurhin, so maybe I was destined for disappointment. I showed it to a fellow gun-nut and told him all the reasons why it wasn't everything it should be and I put it out of sight and out of mind in the gun safe. That was a couple years ago and this is the first time I've had it out since.

The Manurhin is a brand new 6" MR88 SX in 357 Magnum. It actually is a nice machine with decent fit and finish, but for the money I was expecting more. Literally "more"--I thought it was a large frame revolver. But the DA trigger actually feels nicely polished and somewhat consistent throughout the pull. The SA trigger is very light and crisp enough. The cylinder has a nice feel of precision fitment as it closes. The timing is as good as a Ruger or Smith. The cylinder lockup is not "monolithic," but it's good. I like the look. It just doesn't fit my hand.

I could have sworn it was smaller than it is. I'll attach a picture of it with a GP100 and a Security Six. I thought it was smaller than the GP100 and equal to the Security Six. Seeing them side-by-side-by-side they all seem very similar with the exception of the GP100 grip which I love. I will have to see if the GP100 grip fits the MR88... I have the same complaint about the Security Six, "You can't hold onto it!" I am beginning to suspect that a change of grips could make me happier with both of these.

I'll attach several photos of the crane and the pin. The (0.196" dia.) pin is press fit into the frame at the yoke cut. A mating (0.212" dia.) hole is bored in the crane. The pin is recessed (about 0.030") below flush in the hole when the crane is closed. I don't think this setup does anything to keep the cylinder aligned, it would just help mitigate wear in the hinge due to a lifetime of repetitive heavy recoil...which would help the cylinder stay aligned. After several dozen rounds fired, I can report that the crane is still as tight as it was when it was new.

Hope this helps. I have to go try to swap some grips!
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Those are good guns, but doubt that grips interchange.

Don't you know that the GP has no conventional frame? There's just a stud for the grip unit.
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Those are good guns, but doubt that grips interchange.

Don't you know that the GP has no conventional frame? There's just a stud for the grip unit.
Well, yes. I've known that since about 30 minutes after that post.
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Had a set of Trausch grips on my Manurhin MR88. When I got wood grips for that I transferred the Trausch grips to one of my Ruger Speed Sixes. They fit perfectly which was no surprise as the MR88 is closely related to the SS. I like them. But they are rarely seen on this side of the pond.
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