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Old 02-02-2020, 03:26 PM
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Question for the group, What causes the marks shown on the face of the recoil shield. I have seen them before but never really gave them much thought.

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Old 02-02-2020, 03:33 PM
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Lot's of rounds shot and recoil do that. From the head of the case slamming back into the recoil shield over and over again. I guess the heads of the cases kind of burnish the finish of the recoil shield. It even happens on nickel finish guns as well as stainless steel.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:08 PM
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Question for the group, What causes the marks shown on the face of the recoil shield. I have seen them before but never really gave them much thought.



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Old 02-02-2020, 04:13 PM
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Hot loads.
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:29 AM
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Maybe a bit of end shake that lets the cyl move back when the gun is fired
with hot loads.
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Old 02-03-2020, 01:41 AM
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I've been told that lots of carry causes the extra marks.
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Old 02-03-2020, 07:50 AM
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I vote for hot loads and a little loose.
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It's a "ding"
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Recoil.......


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Recoil.......


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Yup! Definitely not "unfired".

Normal condition for mine.
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What I want to know is why a Moderator of these forums is putting this post in "The Lounge" instead of it's proper forum, like the "S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980" forum, where a 28-2 question would most logically be posted?

Just kidding you man, but I couldn't resist.
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Shooting it instead of locking
It up in the safe.
Reload and keep shooting
It will not hurt it.
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What I want to know is why a Moderator of these forums is putting this post in "The Lounge" instead of it's proper forum, like the "S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980" forum, where a 28-2 question would most logically be posted?
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What I want to know is why a Moderator of these forums is putting this post in "The Lounge" instead of it's proper forum, like the "S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980" forum, where a 28-2 question would most logically be posted?

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Lot's of rounds shot and recoil do that. From the head of the case slamming back into the recoil shield over and over again. [...]
The cartridges that are not aligned with the bore are seated more firmly into the chambers by recoil. Remember, in magnums heavy bullets that lack enough neck tension and crimp are moved forward by recoil. Revolvers that have fired lots of rounds but not been carried can wind up with no bluing behind the case at 12 O'clock but not have the thinned bluing behind the other chambers. That leads to the theory that the bluing wear behind the other chambers is from the cartridges rattling around while the revolver is carried and handled.

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The cartridges that are not aligned with the bore are seated more firmly into the chambers by recoil. Remember, in magnums heavy bullets that lack enough neck tension and crimp are moved forward by recoil. Revolvers that have fired lots of rounds but not been carried can wind up with no bluing behind the case at 12 O'clock but not have the thinned bluing behind the other chambers. That leads to the theory that the bluing wear behind the other chambers is from the cartridges rattling around while the revolver is carried and handled.


I hope you let yourself off with a warning. Thinking it was helpful to everyone involved I used to click the red triangle and ask for threads that were obviously in the wrong sub-forum be moved. I stopped after reading that members can be dinged for misplacing threads. To me it looks like they only made a mistake that they were unaware of.

It was worse than a warning I can only attend the Moderators all expenses paid summer Saint Thomas getaway for 5 5/12 days instead of SIX!!
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Question for the group, What causes the marks shown on the face of the recoil shield. I have seen them before but never really gave them much thought.

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If you were Barney Fife this would never happen.
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BRAIN TOOT!!!!
I really think it is in the right forum. This post is valid for any Smith & Wesson era.

But if you say brain toot. Who am I to contradict you.
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Those head stamp marks are perfectly normal on any Smith & Wesson revolver that gets lots of use. You'll never be able to sell that one as unfired/fired very little.
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The particular brass rubs shown in your photograph are of course the consequence of recoil from shooting. It is normal. Very much doubt that it is simply from using heavy recoiling or excessively loaded ammunition. I have a delightful six inch 28-2 that I have been shooting since 2000. It has probably had maybe four or five boxes of magnums fired through it ... but not likely! All other shooting has been common brass cased .38 Specials ... mostly handholds using plain 158 gr. lead bullets and 5.0 gr. of Unique powder. This shooting would amount to maybe a wheel barrow load ... w/ a extra 5 gallon bucket thrown in! It shows some brass rub from case heads impacting on the recoil shield. And it shows brass rub on the 12 O'clock firing position. It has been shot a lot. None of the loads have been in any way excessive. It's like casehardening wearing off a trigger ... consequence of shooting. Not a defect ... simply a testimony to a gun used for the purpose for which it was designed. Sincerely. bruce.
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If you bought that Model 28-2 as being an unfired example, you got robbed. Those marks indicate a fair amount of use. Check the cylinder for endshake and I would also check headspace, make sure it is all within spec.
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I am with those who think it is from normal use. Some from carry some from shooting. I will take a picture of an early 5 screw Highway Patrolman if you want to see recoil shield marks. Just about white everywhere the case heads are. Had some end shake when I got it but still shoots fine.
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Every revolver I've ever owned has developed those marks after a while. I used to call them "ghost marks" as they slowly fade in..
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Lots of rounds fired. Same as a cylinder "turn line". Like tire wear it can't be avoided .
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