Smith & Wesson Forum

Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > >

Notices

S&W Revolvers: 1961 to 1980 3-Screw PINNED Barrel SWING-OUT Cylinder Hand Ejectors


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-09-2020, 03:00 PM
Armitage444's Avatar
Armitage444 Armitage444 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 3
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default Odd problem when closing cylinder

I picked up a model 28-2 recently, and for the most part I'm in love with it. However, it has a strange problem--whenever I go to close a loaded cylinder with any kind of speed, the cartridge in the 10 o'clock position will almost always pop out slightly, keeping the cylinder from closing. This happens with every ammo I've tried. I've only ever owned j-frames before this, and have never encountered anything like it. Is this something that just happens with larger revolvers? Is it a problem with technique? Is it a sign of loose chambers?

Thanks in advance for any insight

0209201019 - IMGE.to
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-09-2020, 03:14 PM
Sgt 45 Sgt 45 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Ann Arbor, MI
Posts: 213
Likes: 38
Liked 154 Times in 72 Posts
Default

If the muzzle isn't pointed down (like straight down or close to) a round may start to slip out and cause problems.
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #3  
Old 02-09-2020, 03:30 PM
Lou_the_welder's Avatar
Lou_the_welder Lou_the_welder is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Los Angeles,California
Posts: 1,464
Likes: 2,608
Liked 2,465 Times in 864 Posts
Default

Recessed chambers?
That's normal. If I load my 29-2 with any speed, it'll jam the cylinder when closing.
And it doesn't happen on the newer non recessed 44's.
Muzzle almost has to be pointed down, as mentioned, and close the cylinder slowly.

Makes you wonder why collectors like the P&R guns so much. Makes no sense.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #4  
Old 02-09-2020, 03:31 PM
Scharfschuetzer's Avatar
Scharfschuetzer Scharfschuetzer is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Puget Sound Area
Posts: 282
Likes: 8
Liked 727 Times in 209 Posts
Default

Odd. I've shot N Frame 27s, 28s, 57s and 58s for years and I've never encountered that issue.

I'll watch the thread for answers.
__________________
Keep your powder dry.

Last edited by Scharfschuetzer; 02-09-2020 at 03:36 PM.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
  #5  
Old 02-09-2020, 03:57 PM
Dan Carey's Avatar
Dan Carey Dan Carey is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 160
Likes: 66
Liked 346 Times in 92 Posts
Default

I've never seen or heard of this before...

Things for thought:
Are you jostling the gun while closing the cylinder?
Is the cylinder pointed down while you're closing the cylinder?
Are you closing the cylinder quickly when this happens?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-09-2020, 04:04 PM
Protocall_Design Protocall_Design is online now
Vendor
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kansas City area
Posts: 3,107
Likes: 12,003
Liked 5,009 Times in 1,886 Posts
Default

Maybe you got some ammo loaded with helium based powder? They tend to float up out of the chamber sometimes...
__________________
Protocall Design
Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Like Post:
  #7  
Old 02-09-2020, 04:23 PM
Model520Fan Model520Fan is offline
US Veteran
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MA
Posts: 6,542
Likes: 5,321
Liked 4,203 Times in 2,010 Posts
Default

Never had that problem, recessed or not.

Maybe you should make some dummies, if you reload, and play with it, a lot.

Post #2 should be regarded very seriously.
__________________
AKA ImprovedModel56Fan
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-09-2020, 04:41 PM
JH1951's Avatar
JH1951 JH1951 is offline
US Veteran
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: South-Central PA
Posts: 2,674
Likes: 12,204
Liked 3,617 Times in 1,282 Posts
Default

Welcome to the forum from Pennsylvania.
I have never encountered this issue, but thinking about it a bit, I handle all of mine as mentioned in post #2 by Sgt 45. Try that and let us know what your results are.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-09-2020, 06:14 PM
Armitage444's Avatar
Armitage444 Armitage444 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 3
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

Making a conscious effort to point the muzzle straight down, and slowing down slightly seems to help a lot. Thanks for the advice. Glad to hear there's people out there who've encountered the same thing! Looks like I'll just have to train a little bit differently than I'm used to with my snubs.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-09-2020, 06:35 PM
merl67 merl67 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Northern Middle Tennessee
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 2,233
Liked 2,388 Times in 866 Posts
Default

Are you trying to close the cylinder gangster style, by that I mean one handed rapidly flipping the gun.
__________________
Randy
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02-09-2020, 06:39 PM
GerSan69 GerSan69 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: metro Phoenix
Posts: 2,278
Likes: 10,732
Liked 2,540 Times in 1,026 Posts
Default

Sorry to be blunt, but this is operator error, period. Unless you're training for some sort of competition, there's really no reason to see how fast you can slam it shut. (I say "slam" because trying to be fast, you are likely putting more pressure on the moving parts than necessary.) Unless you're in a contest, it ain't a contest.
What others have said about muzzle down, etc., is 100% true.
Hey, it's your gun, but I don't see any reason to take a chance of prematurely wearing out or damaging parts. Again, sorry to be so direct, but it's hard to sugar coat it.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #12  
Old 02-09-2020, 07:05 PM
Armitage444's Avatar
Armitage444 Armitage444 is offline
Member
Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder Odd problem when closing cylinder  
Join Date: Feb 2020
Posts: 3
Likes: 3
Liked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

No need to apologize! I've trained to compete with my snubs, so I'm used to moving as quickly as possible. But, with this gun specifically, there's not a pressing need to be that fast. So, clearly I should just slow down.
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Like Post:
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
686 closing cylinder/SA cock issue imakmst S&W-Smithing 8 11-21-2018 07:51 PM
Closing the cylinder Electric Head The Lounge 20 11-12-2017 03:27 AM
Closing cylinder problem komunikatas S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 13 06-30-2017 06:55 PM
1917 cylinder closing problem Bfocht S&W Hand Ejectors: 1896 to 1961 5 09-25-2014 03:24 AM
686 problem with cylinder not closing Tracer_Bullet S&W-Smithing 4 04-03-2012 06:05 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:40 AM.


Search Engine Optimisation provided by DragonByte SEO v2.0.42 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2020 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)