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Old 05-14-2020, 04:59 PM
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Hello! Local pawn shop has a 3" or 4" 27-2. Decent shape I might give it a 7 out of 10. Couple scratches here and there. end of the barrel on the side looks like it was maybe scratched on something rough. nothing terrible. Grips in great shape. No box. N56882 serial number. Also wanted to mention the trigger is much wider than any of the smiths I own. Is that normal?


Couldn't find much on a google search. What's it worth? He's got it at $599

What year? Worth anything?
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Well worth $600 ... OTD if you can do it. Otherwise, carry a ACE bandage and insurance card b/c you will injure your arm getting your wallet out of your pocket to pay for this recover ... and you'll need the ACE bandage to make it feel better till you can get to the emergency room. In other words ... Model 27 w/ 3 1/2 inch barrel ... buy it right now! Or, please send me the phone number of the dealer so I can call him. :-) Sincerely. bruce.
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Hello! Local pawn shop has a 3" or 4" 27-2. Decent shape I might give it a 7 out of 10. Couple scratches here and there. end of the barrel on the side looks like it was maybe scratched on something rough. nothing terrible. Grips in great shape. No box. N56882 serial number. Also wanted to mention the trigger is much wider than any of the smiths I own. Is that normal?


Couldn't find much on a google search. What's it worth? He's got it at $599

What year? Worth anything?
$599 for a 3-1/2" M27-2? If you don't jump on that one there will be a dozen people around here who will want the info on the seller. I'd be one of them, but I don't have the cash right now.

EDIT: See what I mean? You already got one asking for the seller info before I could even finish typing my reply!
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check it over ,,then,, BUY it!!!!
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3 1/" w/ target hammer & trigger... around here that one would be sold before it hit the shelf.
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Even with the blemishes and no box it’s a steel?

What’s the deal with the wide trigger? Is it original?

What year is it?
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Hope you are still there, if not because when you go back it won't be. Don't know where are but around here that is $750.00 or more.
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:23 PM
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Shipped 1978-80. Some did come w/ target hammers & triggers, to me & some others they're very desirable.
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Even with the blemishes and no box it’s a steel?

What’s the deal with the wide trigger? Is it original?

What year is it?
Yes, that gun would be worth twice that or more if it were mint with box.

Yes, original trigger. It's called a target trigger. It also has the (larger) target hammer.

If I'm not mistaken, it was made between 1969-1972 (probably right in the middle of that range).
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Go back and buy it now.
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:24 PM
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I'll 2nd the "go back and buy it NOW". It has enough modest wear and tear that it's going to make a great carry and/or range gun.
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Hello! Local pawn shop has a 3" or 4" 27-2. Decent shape I might give it a 7 out of 10. Couple scratches here and there. end of the barrel on the side looks like it was maybe scratched on something rough. nothing terrible. Grips in great shape. No box. N56882 serial number. Also wanted to mention the trigger is much wider than any of the smiths I own. Is that normal?


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What year? Worth anything?
Very good price. Did you buy it?
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Old 05-14-2020, 06:38 PM
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Ok I went back and bought it. $599 cash out the door.

Couple more pics. Bore looks great. Appears to have not been shot much at all but likely carried. Can see the worst of it at the end of the barrel.
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Metalfarm, that wear is called character! For a revolver that is almost 50 years old, that is negligible wear. In Jersey, a 3.5" 27-2 would sell for more than a grand without box, papers, and accessories.
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Why was this even posted? $600, OTD! Yea, we all drooled. A lot of drool.
Feel better? Good snag.
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Had to wipe peanut butter off my Mac! Very glad that you were able to get such a treasure of a pistol for such a good price! Sincerely. bruce.
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Glad you got it, that's what I call a Jesse James deal. Were you wearing your mask when you walked out the door with it?
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With a 5 digit serial # more likely shipped 1972.
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Model 27s that shipped with target hammer and trigger also shipped with target stocks and in the wood box. Somebody changed something. Model 27s shipped in cardboard boxes with standard Magna stocks and standard hammer and trigger until 1975, when they shipped them in full target mode in the wood box. I think your serial number would have shipped in the 1970-71 timeframe, so maybe it was special ordered or someone changed out the hammer and trigger. Is the serial number stamped on the right stock?
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After a robbery like that, i am expecting a large range report with all the extra money you now have for ammo.
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Model 27s that shipped with target hammer and trigger also shipped with target stocks and in the wood box. Somebody changed something. Model 27s shipped in cardboard boxes with standard Magna stocks and standard hammer and trigger until 1975, when they shipped them in full target mode in the wood box. I think your serial number would have shipped in the 1970-71 timeframe, so maybe it was special ordered or someone changed out the hammer and trigger. Is the serial number stamped on the right stock?
Everything certainly looks original. You’re saying the right stock should have matching serial number on the inside?
I googled “target stocks” and the pictures look like the grips that are on this gun.

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Geez... i was scanning every pawn shop in your area....

Gotta love pawn shops. I have gotten some great deals from pawn shops.....most times they will deal...

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Congratulations!! I looked a few years for a 27, and was never successful.
Did end up up with a real 28 no dash though. Your 27 is a shooter. There is nothing wrong with that. You won't cry if you put a scratch on it. You may find that a good clean up will pretty it up some. Enjoy your 27! Bob
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Everything certainly looks original. You’re saying the right stock should have matching serial number on the inside?
I googled “target stocks” and the pictures look like the grips that are on this gun.
The gun in the picture you show is wearing magna stocks and should have the serial number on the inside of the right panel if original to the gun.
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The pawn shops we have around here never have anything. Neither do the LGS. All plastic or new stuff. Flitz, kroil( if necessary), BRONZE wool, pure copper penny and renaissance wax,patience and a gentle touch and you should have that baby looking like a million bucks.

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Do you have a link to a video with this method? Never heard of any of that. Thanks!
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Do you have a link to a video with this method? Never heard of any of that. Thanks!
If you are asking me for a video of cleaning, and removing light surface rust and freckles, I do not know of one. Those are just the things I use. The kroil disolves rust, a pure copper penny used lightly will remove light surface rust and is softer than steel. Use a wheat penny edge. The bronze wool with kroil will move surface rust, done LIGHTLY. When all satisfied that the surface is clean, wipe wit denatured alcohol or something to remove the oil on the gun. very lightly polish with flitz polish.Don't use pressure. Just be gentle, wipe off polish, and then wax, or oil if you prefer, or whatever you use as a rust preventer
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The gun in the picture you show is wearing magna stocks and should have the serial number on the inside of the right panel if original to the gun.
So I finally got this thing home. They do have a serial number on the inside of the right panel but the serial number is not that of the frame.

Frame: N56882
Stock: 279821

Does that mean they are not original?
Does that mean I should shop for some sexier grips?
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So I finally got this thing home. They do have a serial number on the inside of the right panel but the serial number is not that of the frame.

Frame: N56882
Stock: 279821

Does that mean they are not original?
Does that mean I should shop for some sexier grips?
If I'm doing my research correctly the gun is a 70-71 and the grips are 75-77 is this correct?

Is there a way to find out if the hammer and the trigger are original?

Any suggestions on grips? Do these make it less desirable? Just leave as is? Find some cool aftermarket grips?
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Metalfarm you made a very nice buy on that gun. Congrats .

IMO, the pawnshop owner didn't know what the real value of that gun was .... to your benefit.

You asked about how to find out if the trigger and hammer are original to the gun and the only way to do that is to get it lettered.

In regards to the stocks......if it were mine I would be happy with the ones that came with it, but it's yours and you should do whatever makes you happy.

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Finding the original stocks would be, well,like finding hens teeth!! Anyway, it is a shooter, and a good one, I'll bet, so put on whatever stocks your want, that are comfortable, that you like, etc. Maybe you like those, I don't know. I know that I absolutely cannot shoot Magna stocks. I put Hogue stocks on all my shooting guns, except some that I leave the original target stocks on and shoot mostly single action with. Double action guns get Hogue rubber grips. Much better for me. So, get what you shoot best with and enjoy your new toy@@!
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Glad it was still there for you to buy. Me? I would have bought it before I left the store. Why did you wait?
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You got totally hosed.

But in the spirit of helping a fellow out...I'll cover your loss and add shipping so you can send it down and never have to be reminded of your horrible mistake.



You did GREAT. Congratulations.
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below pics are my 27-2 w/ 3-1/2" barrel, wide hammer, wide trigger and what my factory Letter defined as "Goncalo Alves Target Stocks". I have heard them called "presentation stocks" but not by the factory experts.

Mine is a real hoot to shoot...….if you use an indoor range be prepared for a LOT of noise and flash.

As others have said...you for sure stole yours. Offer $599, or even $999 on mine would for sure get you OTD (Out The Door) of my place...BUT......WITHOUT the gun.

Have fun and for sure...post your very first 6 round full Maggie range report (not the second or later...just the first). HINT..I threw my first away before anyone could see it. It is a LOT of gun in your hand!
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Congratulations. That’s a great deal. Definitely on my want list.
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Leave the perfect stuff for the rich guys. They deserve them, I don't. I yesterday picked a 13-3 RB 95% affordable and they took my S American 44 spcl for trade, glad to get rid of something I could not find fire control parts for; I lost very well. If you don't want it for a shooter, leave it to beaver. If it checks out mechanically, I'd be glad to have it at that figure.
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I seldom see the 3 1/2 under $1400
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