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Pawn Shop 19-4
Stopped by a pawn shop and was shocked to find several interesting Smiths to include: 6 28-2, 640-1, 2 10-5, 6 586,
3 29-4, and a clean 2.5 19-4 with ACE combats. Other than a little holster wear on the muzzle its immaculate (95%) and its mechanically sound- DA trigger is buttery smooth. Its not a collector piece, but itll make a great shooter...or smolt.
I added the target/bananas.
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A 19-4 is an excellent gun. Not to be a downer, but did you notice that the hammer and trigger are not original?
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A 19-4 is an excellent gun. Not to be a downer, but did you notice that the hammer and trigger are not original?
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How do you tell that? Because they aren't case-colored? They look like a target trigger and hammer, maybe they've been changed from standard ones.
OP, that's a beautiful wheel gun, if it passes the push-off and the action is as smooth as you'd expect a S&W to be, go for it. I've got a square butt 19-3 4" and it's a sweet gun.
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05-26-2020, 09:14 PM
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How do you tell that? Because they aren't case-colored? They look like a target trigger and hammer, maybe they've been changed from standard ones.
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At first glance, I thought that they were flash chromed, but on further inspection, they look like they were just polished. I suspect that, like you suggested, someone preferred the wider target hammer/trigger and swapped them out. Also, it could just be the angle, but it looks like the trigger is smooth instead of serrated.
For comparison, this 19-4 came with target trigger/hammer.
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A 19-4 is an excellent gun. Not to be a downer, but did you notice that the hammer and trigger are not original?
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Yes, I am aware the trigger and hammer are the target versions - I plan to bob the hammer and send the entire gun to H&M for black nitriding. The trigger is buttery smooth and mechanics are solid - no push off, end shake and timing is spot on. Even though Ive seen 2.5 19/66s come with target trigger and hammer before, I used the oddity as leverage to negotiate a $200 lower price.
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I actually prefer a smooth trigger as opposed to serrated.
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I actually prefer a smooth trigger as opposed to serrated.
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Me too, especially the usual skinny serrated one found on the 2.5 19/66s.
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Nice 19. I would shoot and enjoy it as is. No need to smolt it.
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I hope you fare better than I on my latest "find", a 13-3 RB, fine, but defective from I believe factory manufacture. I gave it back for a small loss. S&W denied that they could repair it. I have dropped my search for desirable smiths drastically since learning that few living GS's will work on them.
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I hope you fare better than I on my latest "find", a 13-3 RB, fine, but defective from I believe factory manufacture. I gave it back for a small loss. S&W denied that they could repair it. I have dropped my search for desirable smiths drastically since learning that few living GS's will work on them.
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What as wrong with it?
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What as wrong with it?
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Looks like the firing pin bushing is recessed.
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I have a nickel 19-3 2.5 with a red ramp, target hammer and trigger. These could definitely be ordered this way from the factory
How much was the pawn shop 29-4 3 inch?
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Stopped by a pawn shop and was shocked to find several interesting Smiths to include: 6 28-2, 640-1, 2 10-5, 6 586,
3 29-4, and a clean 2.5 19-4 with ACE combats. Other than a little honest wear theres no rust and its mechanically sound- trigger is buttery smooth. Its not a collector piece, but itll make a great shooter...or smolt.
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Mmmm, target trigger and hammer, factory short barrel with proper long rear sight and no step down at the front of the top strap, would be a perfect Smolt...
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Mmmm, target trigger and hammer, factory short barrel with proper long rear sight and no step down at the front of the top strap, would be a perfect Smolt...
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Exactly one of the things I was thinking when I spotted it.
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I have a nickel 19-3 2.5 with a red ramp, target hammer and trigger. These could definitely be ordered this way from the factory
How much was the pawn shop 29-4 3 inch?
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$1099 and I got em down to $999, but the two rear side plate screws had been replaced with Allen buttonhead screws, the front screw was very boogered and other signs bubba had been inside. I am still thinking about returning to take a second look. The last one I saw was $2200. Definitely not a collector piece and I already have a couple 3 629-1s.
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. but it looks like the trigger is smooth instead of serrated.
For comparison, this 19-4 came with target trigger/hammer.
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I think you could get a smooth target trigger, or "semi target", not sure what it's called. My Model 28's trigger is like that; smooth, but the same width as a target trigger, and has the case hardening. I like it better, actually, than the target trigger on my M19-3, which looks exactly like yours, except I took the target grips off for a conformed grip that fits my hand better.
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I also found a 19-4 in a pawn/LGS a few years ago. It had been left in a gun rug and got damp in a small fire and left unattended for some time. Of course it has some light surface rust, but the action etc was literally unfired. I was offered it for a give away price, so I grabbed it, cleaned the rust and decided to have it refinished. I decided on Metaloy which had done a 1911 frame for me several years earlier. I spec'd to leave the top strap/sight black and kept the trigger & hammer out. I did add the rosewood boot grips, which since have been replaced by the original stocks and a T-Grip.
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I also found a 19-4 in a pawn/LGS a few years ago. It had been left in a gun rug and got damp in a small fire and left unattended for some time. Of course it has some light surface rust, but the action etc was literally unfired. I was offered it for a give away price, so I grabbed it, cleaned the rust and decided to have it refinished. I decided on Metaloy which had done a 1911 frame for me several years earlier.
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That looks really good; the matte finish is nice, almost better than a stainless steel. I never really cared for nickel finish, too shiny and "flashy". This looks sinister and all-for-business.
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I also found a 19-4 in a pawn/LGS a few years ago. It had been left in a gun rug and got damp in a small fire and left unattended for some time. Of course it has some light surface rust, but the action etc was literally unfired. I was offered it for a give away price, so I grabbed it, cleaned the rust and decided to have it refinished. I decided on Metaloy which had done a 1911 frame for me several years earlier. I spec'd to leave the top strap/sight black and kept the trigger & hammer out. I did add the rosewood boot grips, which since have been replaced by the original stocks and a T-Grip.
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That looks great!!
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Hair Trigger, who made those grips? They look nice.
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Hair Trigger, who made those grips? They look nice.
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Look like Altamont
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