Guns & a cup of joe

cmansguns · #1 06-06-2020, 06:52 PM

Moderators- please move this if it should have been in the lounge, but most of the Smiths fit this category and time era.

Love these Smiths....maybe as equal as the original people who may have had them on duty somewhere, sometime in their past glory days. Probably equally well loved may have been a cup of joe before taking off, mounting guard duty at Clark AFB, going to the station for the morning Chiefs meeting, having a quick cup in the squad room before mounting that motor unit or climbing in that patrol cruiser for another shift of watching crazies driving.

Anyway....I'm a history buff too, so some "narrative" to go along with a couple:

Left to Right:
S&W Navy Victory, Letters shipping to the US Navy Oakland on 12-17-1942. The USS Lexington (CV16) was commissioned 2-17-1943. In battle off Tarawa Nov 20, 1943. Toyko Rose labelled her the "Blue Ghost" because she was reported sunk by the Japanese at least 5 times, and kept showing up swinging.

Would be nice to think some Navy JG/USMC flyboy kept that S&W Navy (or one just like it) loaded and ready in a shoulder holster.

S&W M15 Combat Masterpiece (1969). I was Army so can't tell for sure but those of you who have been there can probably tell some sea stories about the "Coconut Grove" Airmens Open Mess at Clark Air Force base in the Phillipines. Rumor has it that it was called the Lower 4 Club originally to denote only the lowest 4 enlisted ranks could gain access. During the Vietnam War I suspect that Air Force guards at bases other than RVN may have toted Model 15 as well as M16.

S&W Model 36 (1967) What real police chief anywhere would not have a Model 36 snubbie around somewhere close! Not in Virginia.

S&W Model 10 Nickle (1977). OK...did some personal research and discussion with some ex Staties in VA. The Virginia State Police had official issue Colt Officers Model, 38 Spl, 4" from approx. 1967 to mid 1907's. Then they had S&W Model 64, 4" stainless from mid 1970's to 1990, when the official issue became S&W 1026, 10mm stainless until 1993, when they switched to Sig Sauer in 9mm. Well....I just don't have a Model 64 in the stable..so you are getting a Nickle Model 10-5...same gun so you'll just have to like it a little shiny.

S&W Model 28-2 (1974). This gun is what all the VA Staties wished for! I don't know that for a fact....but I'd bet the farm if they coulda....they woulda.

Anyway enjoy the pics and if any memories are jogged, feel free to reminisce about the old times and how really good (or really bad) that cup of joe was at the time!

Bumpus13 · #2 06-07-2020, 10:25 AM

Not a coffee fan.

Nice iron, though!

gmborkovic · #3 06-07-2020, 10:59 AM

OK, history buff, origin of cup of Joe?

JH1951 · #4 06-07-2020, 08:17 PM

Since this has been sitting without a follow-up for hours, I'll offer this up....
One story is that Josephus Daniels, Secretary of the U.S. Navy during WWI, banned alcohol on board ships back around 1914. In turn, the sailors drank a lot of coffee instead, and it became known lovingly by sailors as "a cup of Joe".

cmansguns · #5 06-08-2020, 07:52 AM

Don't know the origin of a "cup of Joe" for sure but JH1951 post above is in line with the absolute, above all, historical, for fact, for sure...world wide reference and authority on all things...that marvelous invention by Al Gore......the Internet and Wikipedia

Sounds good to me with regard to the Navy origin...sounds like something politicians would do.

I would tend to discount the "teenager modifying Java and Jamoka into Joe" theory...and yea...…….I have had many a cup of "coffee" that would have easily qualified for the other popular terminology, "cup of mud".

Really the whole affair Saturday morning was because my newest acquisition from being housebound had just arrived. I finally broke down and bought a Cannon DSLR camera, quality tripod, and a remote shutter release. One of my daughters had a "photo booth in a box" so I set it up and just started playing around attempting to get things like distance, focus, lighting to come into play. Wife said mix in some of those ugly cups sitting around with your guns and see if that doesn't help with contrast.

Results folks just prove that I have got one heck of a lot to learn about shooting gun pics with decent equipment. I'm going to keep trying though....especially for that close up detail that my I-phone just never did.

Anyway...Saturday morning playing with my guns, cups and new camera, meant that Sat afternoon and all day Sunday got devoted to pesky outdoor chores, deck railing refurbishment, and typical "honey dew" stuff, so no allowance for Forum time. Pardon my absence, like Arnold said "Ahll bee Bock"

rubiranch · #6 06-08-2020, 08:15 AM

1960 6.5" M27 wearing Cokes. My favorite S&W.

1978 M58.

No history about either one. Just thought I'd add to your thread.

Doc44 · #7 06-08-2020, 08:53 AM

Cup of Joe may have originated when Josephus Daniels, Secy of the Navy, banned alcohol on U. S. ships, hence, "cup of Joe". Another possible origin is the shortening of cup of java or jamoke to cup of Joe, or since coffee is considered a common man's drink (Starbucks not withstanding), cup of Joe seems fitting for a description.

Google search is a wonderful thing.

Bill

PALADIN85020 · #8 06-08-2020, 09:32 AM

Makes for a nice morning to have a cup of coffee and muse on the excellence of this 1923 M&P!

John

rubiranch · #9 06-08-2020, 10:16 AM

A coffee cup with great memories and my Jan 1964 6.5" M29.

two-bit cowboy · #10 06-08-2020, 01:26 PM

Neat topic.

I don't have access to my Navy overrun Chiefs Special with a lanyard ring (1 of 112 about 1977) and my U.S.S. Kitty Hawk coffee cup, but that's the image I would have posted.

A dark roast from the local roaster would be my preference for the cup's contents.

Buford57 · #11 06-10-2020, 04:05 PM

Innumerable cups of "Joe", "mud", "Java" were consumed by Yours Truly in the company of a 4" M28 - styrofoam cups in briefing rooms and emergency rooms, "Be Careful Out There" mugs in the detective bureau, thermos bottle caps in the cruiser or on stakeout, heavy white mugs in marginally hygenic diners, tin cups in elk camp.

Thanks for the memories.

CH4 · #12 06-18-2020, 11:20 AM

Odd couple - cafe latte with a Pre 27 wearing Fuzzy Farrants along with a 19-4 with Ahrends maple combats.