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08-02-2020, 01:43 PM
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Model 17-2 Grips Question
Question about my K-22 Model 17-2 Grips?
S/N: K727173, (S&W told me its 1967).
New S&W Revolver to me. These Grips have no S&W Medallion.
They fit the K Frame well ( they don't look "After Market").
Are they S&W Grips?
Note the Checkering Area & Profile Ridge for Thumb does not much room for Medallion. K727173 does not have a Target Trigger or Target Hammer.
Thanks for any insight from member G17L.
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Aftermarket for sure.
Herretts to be precise.
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They are not S&W. They have speed loader cutout. Your 1967 should have ( probably) diamond magnas. They could be Herrett's. They look nice, and are probably walnut of black walnut. For sure worth keeping
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Many Thanks! They are "HERRET'S" as weathby says.
The ink stamp on the Inside was not that readable but now it shows me enough to know they are Herret's.
Here's the rest of my story. I have a Model 66-No Dash 4" & a Model 66-1 6" & i use them for Competitions. They both came with Goncolo Alves Target Grips that i really like but had to removed to accommodate Speedloaders to be competitive against Auto Loaders. So...i had already installed a set of the M66 Goncolo Alves on My K-22 .22LR & it may be my favourite Gun to Practice with. (Thanks again Guys... i spent quite a bit of time on-line trying to get an answer to my grip question). Regards from G17L
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08-06-2020, 07:09 AM
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My 17-2 was shipped in 1964. It came to me with rubbers on it. (maybe the recoil was too much for the previous owner) I normally use target stocks on all of my revolvers. Saw these at a flea market, and had to have them. Put some wood conditioner on them. That is it. Bob
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08-06-2020, 08:41 AM
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Look like Sile to me.
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My model 17 I bought in the early 80's came with 3 T's the grips were walnut target grips. Your grips look a lot better than rubber grips. Jeff
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08-18-2020, 04:44 PM
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Hello bananaman, what kind of grips are those in the 2nd photo from the left? I just bought a 17-4 with grips like that.
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K727173 does not have a Target Trigger or Target Hammer.
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Just FYI, this fact is totally unrelated to whether the gun shipped with target stocks. We saw all combinations of TT, TH and TS in those days. And the K-22 most commonly shipped with Magna stocks irrespective of the style of trigger and hammer.
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Can anyone tell me what kind of grips are those in the 2nd photo from the left in bananaman's post?
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Can anyone tell me what kind of grips are those in the 2nd photo from the left in bananaman's post?
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They look like they might be factory Plain Rosewood Target Grips, similar to the one in the pic below.
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Here is one with a presentation cut (I think) on the right grip
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Here is one with a presentation cut (I think) on the right grip
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Thats the ones I have, anything special or rare about them other than they feel real good and fit perfect? Thank you!
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I think they are intended mainly for display, but I am not sure.
I agree that they look great, and shooting a .22 (I had them on a model 18 for a while), or .38 spl, using those grips is great. I am not sure I would want to use them on a 357 though.
There are checkered target grips that have a similar deep color, but I am not sure if they are the same wood. I am not one of the experts, still trying to figure out what grip goes with which revolver and what period.
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The stocks in the original post are Herretts Shooting Stars. I like Shooting Stars a lot but my enthusiasm is not reflected in the market value of used sets. Most Shooting Stars are walnut but Herretts specialized in custom ordered stocks. They usually requested a buyer send them an outline of their hand so they could alter their standard shapes to fit the customer. Herretts advertised that they'd make stocks out of hardwoods that the customer mailed them so the wood could be anything.
On this forum the stocks in banaman's 2nd picture from the left are usually called presentation stocks or presentation target stocks. His look like goncola alves wood. All they are is uncheckered S&W Target Stocks unless they have the mirror image speed loader cut out on the side plate side to uncover decorations. So cut they were most often used on commemorative revolvers. banaman's three pictures on the right show the diamond Magna Stocks that S&W most often put on Model 17s before 1968 or 1969.
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How can you tell the rosewood grips from Goncalo Alves?
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How can you tell the rosewood grips from Goncalo Alves?
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Goncalo alves has more yellowish brown and orange brown. Also in S&W made stocks it usually has more pronounced color changes in wide grains. Look at the S&W made rosewood stocks above. Notice that they are mostly a solid color pinkish brown. That's typical. However, back in the 1970s I saw S&W made Target Stocks with distinct grains of white, red, brown and black. They were new in the factory packaging, shrink wrap over a cardboard card. About 1976 a friend bought one of them for $50 + tax. Goncalo alves Target Stocks were $25 + Tax. In the same display there were zebra wood S&W made Target Stocks with black and white grains. I have yet to see a pair on this forum so they must be scarce.
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My 17 wears Altamonts. Pretty nice for the money.
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I've got wood Hogues on my Model 17.
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Hello bananaman, what kind of grips are those in the 2nd photo from the left? I just bought a 17-4 with grips like that.
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They are smooth presentation K/L. Was picking up a gun from my FFL, and he asked if I wanted them. SURE! Got them at a good price! Bob
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original S&W stocks on 22 revolvers
Mine have the factory original stocks as shipped. Have Lettered most and confirmed what they left with on day 1. Seems styles are all over the map depending on year and Model no, but mine are: (oldest to newest - left to right):
22/32 HFT (1915)
K22 Outdoorsman (1931) no longer with me
K22 Masterpiece (1947)
M 17-3 - 3T's (1971)
M 34-1 (1972)
As stated earlier, most are magna style, wood seems to be walnut in most all cases.
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Bananaman thank you for replying back. They feel real good in hand
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