|
|
08-02-2020, 09:04 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
S&W Model 10-6 .38 Special police trade in
Hi all, I recently purchased a 10-6 in .38 special that was a police trade in. I was wondering if any one here has any idea on how hard it would be to dig up the history of this fine old revolver. Things I would like to find out.... What department it was part of,
when it was put in service, roughly how long it was in service, and maybe find out if it was used by more than 1 department.
Interesting thing I was shown at the gun shop when I purchased it is in front of the trigger guard is stamped JF then 1423, I was told that 1423 was the badge number it was issued to and possibly that JF were the officers initials. Does anyone know if this sounds plausible? Thanks in advance for any info
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-02-2020, 09:26 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Crawford County PA
Posts: 3,709
Likes: 4,394
Liked 6,713 Times in 2,420 Posts
|
|
A letter would tell you where and when it was shipped from the factory. It will say if it was shipped with other guns to a law enforcement supplier . Beyond that it's will usually be guess work.
__________________
Made it, Ma! Top of the world!
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-02-2020, 10:55 PM
|
|
SWCA Member Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,834
Likes: 10,103
Liked 27,996 Times in 8,452 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmartin
.....
Interesting thing I was shown at the gun shop when I purchased it is in front of the trigger guard is stamped JF then 1423, I was told that 1423 was the badge number it was issued to and possibly that JF were the officers initials. Does anyone know if this sounds plausible? Thanks in advance for any info
|
Are you sure it was JF and not JP?
Your description of the location in front of the trigger guard sounds a lot like a large batch of heavy-barrel Model 10s that were re-imported from a foreign country’s police force. They were all marked with JP and a four-digit number in front of the trigger guard.
These guns have been discussed here before. I don’t think there was a definite answer as to what the JP stands for, but the Jordanian Police was the most often referenced suspect.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-03-2020, 10:46 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
It is a heavy barrel model, I re-inspected the stamping it is clearly JF
Also if it helps anyone here is the serial #3D10484
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-03-2020, 10:54 AM
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 8,002
Likes: 35,764
Liked 29,652 Times in 6,014 Posts
|
|
Here is my 10-6 Bull barrel on the right. It was issue for Boise PD officers
in the late 1960s and 1970s. On the left is my 10-5. The plain cloths cops
got the 10-5. No PD markings of any kind on either revolver.
__________________
In Omnia Paratus
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
08-03-2020, 11:06 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2020
Posts: 1,406
Likes: 2,459
Liked 2,029 Times in 796 Posts
|
|
3D prefix would date it to 1978, at least according to the SCSW catalog. On the other hand, according to the same source, the factory had started making version 10-8, "Gas ring change from yoke to cylinder on heavy barrel model".
If it was reimported from outside the US, it might have the name of the importing FFL or wholesaler etched somewhere on the gun.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-03-2020, 12:41 PM
|
|
SWCA Member Absent Comrade
|
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,834
Likes: 10,103
Liked 27,996 Times in 8,452 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmartin
It is a heavy barrel model, I re-inspected the stamping it is clearly JF
Also if it helps anyone here is the serial #3D10484
|
The 3D serials should indeed fall into 1978 and are just around the transition from 10-6 to 10-8, so the gun is whichever of these two is stamped in the yoke cut.
If it is indeed JF and not an unevenly struck P, your only hope is likely to pay for a history letter. That may tell you whether the gun shipped to a specific department. Of course, if it went by way of a regional distributor, that would be the end of the road.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-04-2020, 12:39 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: Missouri
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
|
|
I want to thank everyone for the responses, I am happy to learn what year it is.
Absalom, it may be a poorly shaped p, I just really thought it was an f
but it would make sense knowing that a large batch was brought back from another country. Thanks for the help
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-04-2020, 07:23 PM
|
|
SWCA Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: N GA
Posts: 4,466
Likes: 204
Liked 3,613 Times in 1,498 Posts
|
|
Most likely shipped around May 1978. A letter of authenticity would likely tell you where it shipped, but may not be worth the added cost........
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-06-2020, 03:33 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 975
Likes: 1,953
Liked 1,545 Times in 334 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyphil
Here is my 10-6 Bull barrel on the right. It was issue for Boise PD officers
in the late 1960s and 1970s. On the left is my 10-5. The plain cloths cops
got the 10-5. No PD markings of any kind on either revolver.
|
Was Shapels the purchasing agent?
__________________
I type. Therefore I am.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-06-2020, 04:16 PM
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 8,002
Likes: 35,764
Liked 29,652 Times in 6,014 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Checkman
Was Shapels the purchasing agent?
|
Maybe. I never really knew. I sure do miss Shappels though.
You must be an old-timer if you remember them.
__________________
In Omnia Paratus
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-06-2020, 04:36 PM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Idaho
Posts: 975
Likes: 1,953
Liked 1,545 Times in 334 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by crazyphil
Maybe. I never really knew. I sure do miss Shappels though.
You must be an old-timer if you remember them.
|
I'm fifty-two, but I bought a few guns there during the shop's final years. I've been with Caldwell PD for the past twenty years.
__________________
I type. Therefore I am.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
08-07-2020, 01:10 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: SE CT
Posts: 828
Likes: 312
Liked 1,196 Times in 364 Posts
|
|
I picked up one late last year, too, when AIM Surplus had a bunch on sale pretty cheaply.
Serial is 3D11XXX
|
03-14-2021, 12:27 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 37
Likes: 59
Liked 55 Times in 18 Posts
|
|
Recently purchased S&W 10-6 HB police trade-in marked 'JP'
Quote:
Originally Posted by lmartin
Hi all, I recently purchased a 10-6 in .38 special that was a police trade in.
...in front of the trigger guard is stamped JF then 1423, I was told that 1423 was the badge number it was issued to and possibly that JF were the officers initials. Does anyone know if this sounds plausible? Thanks in advance for any info
|
I too recently purchased a "police trade-in" S&W Model 10-6 HB that has "JP" over the number "550" stamped just forward of the trigger guard. Additionally, this revolver bears a re-import mark: "C.A.I. GEORGIA, VT" over "MADE IN U.S.A." stamped into the barrel flat above the ejector rod. After review of opinions from various collectors, and a couple different distributors, the consensus appears to be these are re-imports from the 'Jordanian Public Defense Force' (Jordan National Police).
Mine has a 2D89xxx which, according to S&W, was made in 1978; the transition year from the S&W Model 10-6 with pinned barrel to the Model 10-8 with the crush-fit barrel.
Last edited by EEResQ; 09-30-2022 at 06:12 PM.
Reason: Typo correction...
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|