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Old 09-01-2020, 12:00 AM
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This Nickel 34 was ‘close’ to a fire, according to seller. Grips were only slightly darkened.

I have little experience with nickel Smiths (n=1), and would appreciate the opinions of the forum at-large.


Does this look salvageable, or will it forever be a milky mess? Thanks !

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I'd think that a little work with Flitz and a microfiber cloth would clean that up. Looks like cooked oil.
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I'd think that a little work with Flitz and a microfiber cloth would clean that up. Looks like cooked oil.
That’s what I was hoping, but $500 seems a bit steep for a ‘maybe’ gun...am I way off on 34-1 pricing?
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If the grips were only darkened I don't see how it could have gotten hot enough to do any real damage to the gun, but not sure about $500....but I dont know what a similar gun that is in better condition would go for.
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I bought a very nice 4 inch nickel 34-1 with no issues for $541 earlier this year. Felt fortunate to find one at that price. If I saw the one you're showing for $500 I would buy it too. I've had very few nickel guns that didn't clean up very well even when presenting as quite "cloudy." Good luck.

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At $500.00, wish him luck, shake his hand and WALK AWAY.

There are too many good ones out there for that kind of money to get caught up in this silly game.
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Old 09-02-2020, 02:34 PM
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^^^^ What banger said. ^^^^
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I'd take a chance if it was a 2". Probably clean right up, then
you have a $700 gun.

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$500 for a nickel M34-1 is about 60% what I see them go for.
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If you trust the seller, have him/her try a ‘light’ cleaning of the affected area and reporting back.
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$500! are you Loco? Buyer is assuming all the risk.
Like somebody said, shake his hand, count your fingers, and walk away.
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I don’t know the seller, and it’s a 4-inch gun.


I’ll direct my attention elsewhere.

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Here's what I fail to understand...

The seller has a desirable piece that should go quickly.

So...

Why the heck doesn't he take a few minutes to clean up that discoloration?
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Yeah, anytime I see "You can fix it, it will only take a minute" I wonder, then why isn't he fixing it and getting more $$ out of it?

Just another variant of "Buy the gun, not the story".
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I wonder if the finish was chemically damaged by a cleaner. I'd assume he already tried and it didn't work. No matter.
It it was perfect, I'd jump on it for that price.
I'd have to discount it to it's present condition, because if it doesn't respond to your magic, that's where you are.
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Tell him you are not sure it will clean up and offer $325. Don't go over $375.
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Tell him you are not sure it will clean up and offer $325. Don't go over $375.
I offered $350 initially and he passed.
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The picture looks like the image of one of the Foam Bore Cleaners slopped over onto the frame and left there for a while.

Some of them say they won't harm nickel plating, some say if you use them on a nickel plated gun, don't allow the stuff to sit on the plated surfaces for prolonged times as it may damage the nickel finish.

I understand all about the copper removing abilities of the bore cleaners and the use, or not, of under-plating copper flash coats before nickel plating.

But I think here it's a simple case of a bore cleaner , or other strong cleaner of some sort having been left on the surface of the nickel for quite some time and it left it's mark,,
Scrubbing bubbles in this case.You're looking right at a near photo image of bubbles and foam in the side of the frame.
I hardly think a fire did that.

Lot's of household spray cleaners are plenty strong and can damage gun finishes.

As all ready said,,let the owner 'simply' polish the finish up and bring it back to life.
It may be that it will be a simple job.
The question is do you want to take a $500 chance on finding out for yourself and how bad do you want a 4" M34.
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Just another thought,,

I'm also wondering if the gun wasn't home-shop Electroless Nickel Plated.
The process is not hard to master and the whole 'kit' is a Brownells call away. But you can get some very interesting looks to the final finish if you are not strictly following the rules.
(Would a 34 from this mfg era be marked as such if it was Factory Nickel plated?,,or have a 'B' marking if it left S&W as a blued pistol,,
showing my collector ignorance here. But it may be an easy quick way to see if it had been aftermarket plated)

When Electroless Nickel hit the gunsmithing market,,Lots of decent factory blued guns were simply stripped of the blue, with no further polishing to destroy the factory polish lines, shine & look.
Then Electroless plated out in the garage or in the basement.
Some turned out nice,,,some not so good.

Just like bluing, it takes some experience and patience.
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Yeah, anytime I see "You can fix it, it will only take a minute" I wonder, then why isn't he fixing it and getting more $$ out of it?

Just another variant of "Buy the gun, not the story".
Absolutely. I see a lot of "that's an easy fix" or "you can order the part". Well why doesn't the seller fix it or order the part?
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That doesn't look like heat damage to me.
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