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Old 09-08-2020, 05:25 PM
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Based on today's market, what is a NIB, pristine 19-4, 4" P&R , 3 T, tools and docs worth?

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Blue $1100 nickel $1500.
My experience, actual results may vary.

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A nice 28 + $200--$300
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Based on today's market, what is a NIB, pristine 19-4, 4" P&R , 3 T, tools and docs worth?

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I'd like to say $850, but I know I'm low.

Wishful thinking on my part.
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I'd like to say $850, but I know I'm low.

Wishful thinking on my part.
You might find it at that price, but not on GB, where there are a few guns and a ton of buyers.
I bet there are pawn shops and LGS's that have deals, just have to find them.
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You might find it at that price, but not on GB, where there are a few guns and a ton of buyers.
I bet there are pawn shops and LGS's that have deals, just have to find them.
Oh yes, that could go much, much higher on GB. I get a kick out of bidding my absolute max and then watching the final price come in at double or more what I bid.

$850 was the last really nice one that I found locally, but it was not "new-in-box-with-everything."
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I'd have to go with $1000. The box, docs, and tools don't seem to bring much of a premium here on the later model Smiths.
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Two different LNIB bright blue 4" 19-4s have sold on GB in the past two weeks. One brought $1525, the other $1700. One standard blue brought $1299. Nickel versions also LNIB are bringing the same amount.
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Prices right now are crazy high. A true, NIB 19-4, with correct box and tools that would normally go for $800 are now going for well over $1000. We live in crazy times.
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Two different LNIB bright blue 4" 19-4s have sold on GB in the past two weeks. One brought $1525, the other $1700. One standard blue brought $1299. Nickel versions also LNIB are bringing the same amount.
If they sold for that on GB, I'd say the actual market value for a nice M19-4 3T with box and goodies is about $850-$950. GB is like Mecum car auction for guns, they've driven the price up well beyond some guns' worth.

I paid $800 four years ago for a like-new M19-3 3T with box from a LGS as a consignment sale. It dates to 1972.
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I sold a like new 19-4 4" blue, gun only 3 years ago for $1000. Quality always brings more.

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I did not know there were 2 finishes. Mine is BRT in the finish box. All I know is they ain't makin em like that any more. maybe it is best to hold on to it?
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I did not know there were 2 finishes. Mine is BRT in the finish box. All I know is they ain't makin em like that any more. maybe it is best to hold on to it?
Depends on your plans for the money it would bring I guess.

And it sounds like it could bring an awful lot of money on GB!

Out of my league for sure, but the very thought of it does have me drooling.
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I did not know there were 2 finishes. Mine is BRT in the finish box. All I know is they ain't makin em like that any more. maybe it is best to hold on to it?
Pete, I will be honest. I knew that S&W offered both standard blue and bright blue finishes at some point. I was unaware that the bright blue finish could still be ordered as late as a 19-4. I have a 19-4 that I would rate as "nice", but it is fairly easy to see the difference in my standard blue vs one in bright blue.

I am pretty sure that a Model 19 was never offered in matte blue similar to a HP.

Here is the link to the one that brought $1700 just a few days ago. For all intents and purposes, this gun was/is new.

1979 Smith & Wesson 19-4 .357 Mag 4'' Blue 3 Ts NIB - Revolvers at GunBroker.com : 876651912
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Pete, I will be honest. I knew that S&W offered both standard blue and bright blue finishes at some point. I was unaware that the bright blue finish could still be ordered as late as a 19-4. I have a 19-4 that I would rate as "nice", but it is fairly easy to see the difference in my standard blue vs one in bright blue.

I am pretty sure that a Model 19 was never offered in matte blue similar to a HP.

Here is the link to the one that brought $1700 just a few days ago. For all intents and purposes, this gun was/is new.

1979 Smith & Wesson 19-4 .357 Mag 4'' Blue 3 Ts NIB - Revolvers at GunBroker.com : 876651912
Thank you very much for that information. That is mine to a T. 99%+, no upside. The difference being that mine has better wood. I also do not think the gun on GB was exactly as shipped. The grips were marked as ST, which I would consider to be smooth target, unless someone has a better reason for an ST marking. Thank you for the effort to help...........Pete
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Thank you very much for that information. That is mine to a T. 99%+, no upside. The difference being that mine has better wood. I also do not think the gun on GB was exactly as shipped. The grips were marked as ST, which I would consider to be smooth target, unless someone has a better reason for an ST marking. Thank you for the effort to help...........Pete
I believe the ST stands for Square Target.
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Pete-The question is does your 19-4 have presentation aka smooth target stocks. My 19-3 box just says T on the label for grips, and BT for finish. It has checkered target grips. Same with a 66 box I have.
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Not that I will sell but here is one of mine...mod 19-4 4” in the box with target hammer, trigger, stock, red insert and white outline.
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Pete-The question is does your 19-4 have presentation aka smooth target stocks. My 19-3 box just says T on the label for grips, and BT for finish. It has checkered target grips. Same with a 66 box I have.
The box is marked ST on grips and BT on finish
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