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10-23-2020, 06:13 PM
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Gunsmiths step in please!
Hello, have a model 28-2 that I have diagnosed as having a bad extractor.I believe that two teeth on the extractor are worn down which does not allow the cylinder to fully rotate when cocking. The 3 other teeth fully allow the cylinder to rotate in proper time. I purchased a used extractor and I am having trouble fitting it to the gun.When installed the cylinder will no longer close due to the cylinder rubbing on the forcing cone.Any advice in getting this extractor to fit?
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10-23-2020, 06:41 PM
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Maybe add a shim between the crane and the cylinder?
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10-23-2020, 07:13 PM
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It’s almost like a shim needs to be reduced.But don’t see any shims
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10-23-2020, 07:16 PM
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Do you have fore and aft cylinder motion? if so try
and shim it.
If there is none you can as a shade tree gun smith
do one of 2 things ( at least I have).
Light filing of the forcing cone.(Probably not)
Stone the ejector star.
Neither of these fixes is what a real smith would
probably do but they work.
Last thing an old gunsmith ( a real one ) said to me.
" Always cut on the cheapest part. "
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Used extractors do not often interchange between cylinders because of the placement of the cylinder alignment pin holes in the extractor, and the ex. alignment pins in the cylinder that are under the extractor. If this is the case, the extractor itself will not go down into the cavity fully..... to the point where it is in it's proper place, flush against the cylinder. This may be preventing the extractor from fitting properly into the cylinder itself, and making it hard to close.
As the other member mentioned, carry up of your original cylinder can be negatively affected by excessive end shake. If excessive end shake is found, shimming the cylinder back may solve the problem, and you may not have to fit the new extractor. Check first to make sure your "rear gauge" or headspace is correct. If it's out of spec, or too large, shimming may take care of the issue.
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Hold on a minute. You may just need an oversize hand and keep your old extractor. That is the cheapest and easiest fix, unless your current hand is already very large. Check the width of your hand, no, the one in the gun :-). You should be able to fit a new hand just .002 or maybe a bit more wider, to get the slow chambers to carry up properly and then file the remaining ones to fit. You would probably have to go through this process with the new ratchet too. You might try finding a gunsmith that knows how to do this.
Good luck
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Quote:
Originally Posted by armorer951
Used extractors do not often interchange between cylinders because of the placement of the cylinder alignment pin holes in the extractor, and the ex. alignment pins in the cylinder that are under the extractor. If this is the case, the extractor itself will not go down into the cavity fully..... to the point where it is in it's proper place, flush against the cylinder. This may be preventing the extractor from fitting properly into the cylinder itself, and making it hard to close.
As the other member mentioned, carry up of your original cylinder can be negatively affected by excessive end shake. If excessive end shake is found, shimming the cylinder back may solve the problem, and you may not have to fit the new extractor. Check first to make sure your "rear gauge" or headspace is correct. If it's out of spec, or too large, shimming may take care of the issue.
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Thank you, when I first started fitting the extractor to the cylinder it would not even go in and I took a small drill bit and cleaned out the holes on the extractor and then it sat fairly flush. Can I drill the extractor holes out a little bit to have the extractor sit flush in the cylinder?
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10-24-2020, 07:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightowl
Hold on a minute. You may just need an oversize hand and keep your old extractor. That is the cheapest and easiest fix, unless your current hand is already very large. Check the width of your hand, no, the one in the gun :-). You should be able to fit a new hand just .002 or maybe a bit more wider, to get the slow chambers to carry up properly and then file the remaining ones to fit. You would probably have to go through this process with the new ratchet too. You might try finding a gunsmith that knows how to do this.
Good luck
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Thank you, this is my next course of action if I can’t get the extractor to fit. I didn’t go this route originally because I was unsure how the oversized hand would impact the timing on the rest of the cylinder.
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