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28-2 with RR / WO found a new home
When I first glanced at it, I thought for sure it was a 27 I mean it had a RR and a target trigger, but when I looked at the top strap it was not serrated and the finish was not 27-esque - hmmm? A 4" 28 with a RR / WO & .400 smooth target trigger - OK, you have my attention now. I fell in love with the gun and wanted to take it home, but some guy named "NYSP" stamped his name on the frame under the cylinder on the left side, so I almost passed, but the gun was 98%, so I figured what the heck. I was able to work a nice discount because of the grafiti and took it home.
Have you ever thought to yourself that you don't really collect a specific model, only to find out that you kind of collect that model?
Left to right-
28-3 6" 1983
28-2 6" 1978
28-2 4" 1974
28 no dash 4" 1958 (all matching #)
28-2 4" RR/WO "NYSP" Ser #N5422XX
Now all I need is a 28-1 - I heard those are pretty easy to find right? I'll probably pick up the next one I see to round out the collection
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Yup... I know exactly what that feels like. That is how I moved from an "accumulator" to a "collector". Now all you have to do is embrace it - find a couple of Pre-28's and keep looking for that elusive 28-1 (a fun gun to be sure). If I recall correctly, the one and only 28-1 (that we know of) lived here in AZ for a few years. It caused quite a stir here on the forum for a few months.
Thanks for sharing your collection with the rest of us.
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Yup... I know exactly what that feels like. That is how I moved from an "accumulator" to a "collector". Now all you have to do is embrace it - find a couple of Pre-28's and keep looking for that elusive 28-1 (a fun gun to be sure). If I recall correctly, the one and only 28-1 (that we know of) lived here in AZ for a few years. It caused quite a stir here on the forum for a few months.
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Thanks Richard,
I remember reading about that 28-1, everyone was a twitter...
I hope you are well my friend.
Best,
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I ran into a nice 28-2 at a Mobile, Al. gun show today. It was wearing Pacs and the guy wanted $650.00 for it. I offered $500.00 because of the grips but he wouldn't take it. If it had the correct grips I might have offered more but I already have one anyway.
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For $650 I would haggle more, show the green.
I found two m28-0 and one m28-2 all 6” barrels in 99.99% condition on two and one in 98% condition. They were marked $695 each, the m27-2 was $795.
I still think anything under $1,000 today is good. The average price seems to be $1,200 for n frames.
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The most notable thing about your new-to-you M28-2 is the complete absence of a visible turn line on the cylinder. If it were a NYSP-issued revolver, I'd expect to see a fairly well defined one, if not some holster wear on the cylinder edge and muzzle.
The Standard catalog mentions NYSP variations with the red ramp front sight and white outline rear sight, and the SN in the N546xxx range. (1978-80)
Not sure if all M28's have it, but mine (SN N146xxx) has the SN stamped on the inside surface of the extractor star, might be worth checking out. Beautiful gun, as well as your others. And yeah, wouldn't we all love to have a M28-1 in our collections?
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Great looking gun!! Must have belonged to a higher up because it looks like it sat in a drawer during its career. Thanks for showing.
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My 28-2 N545291 must’ve been owned by the same guy.
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If I recall correctly, the book says some shipped with that trigger, others with the serrated trigger. I don't think it was offered as an option, but maybe for a large order from an agency, they would accommodate the specification.
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I can't see for sure, but LPD256's trigger sure looks serrated.
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I can't see for sure, but LPD256's trigger sure looks serrated.
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Yes my trigger is serrated. My understanding is that the guns to NYSP were sent un-modified and red ramps, white outlines, and triggers were added later. If you look at the guns, the red ramps are longer. I’m guessing my gun went to someone that either preferred a wide serrated trigger, or it was changed by a subsequent owner. I actually prefer that trigger myself.
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HP 28-2 NYSP Questions?
Hair Trigger,
Agreed on the turn-line, it does have an almost imperceptible turn line and the recoil shield looks like a NIB gun.
One thing I've noticed over the years is this - Turn-lines are a derivative of cylinder stop stud surface prep. I've had guns with low round count where the turn-line looks like it was cut with a grinder, but I've had others with high round count and virtually no turn-line. Upon comparison, surface prep (polished / no burrs) of the cylinder stop seems to be the key. I've seen them over-worked to the point where lockup is compromised and I've seen them with burrs large enough to resemble a milling tool.
I'm guessing that this gun was tuned by the NYSP ammoror or personal gunsmith, because the trigger breaks like glass at 3lbs. and the cylinder stop is perfectly polished, but only in the exact spot where it contacts the cylinder (pic included) resembling other tuned guns I've seen from best-in-class gunsmiths.
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Were there guns (during this period) that came from the factory with more attention to detail? because they were for NYSP or an important individual? The finish on this HP is 25% better than any other HP I've seen.
I've read (here) that non-matching stock #'s were also common at agencies where multiple guns may be on the bench at the same time. The RH stock on this one doesn't match the gun, but it's only off by a hundred or so.
Thanks to all for the feedback.
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If I recall correctly, the book says some shipped with that trigger, others with the serrated trigger. I don't think it was offered as an option, but maybe for a large order from an agency, they would accommodate the specification.
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I love the .400 smooth trigger, wish I had one on all my S&W's, but my M28-2 is the only one with it.
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While I do love S&W revolvers, my weakness is 1911s. I have some of them I've had years, but never gotten around to fire them.
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I gave a 4" pre 28 to a good friend a few years ago.
He deserves all the good that comes his way.
I only have one M28, a 6" 28-2. I'm good.
If I didn't have a M-58 I might just look for a 4" 28 but the 58 fills that niche for me.
I'd rather have a 4" M-28 NYPD than a non NYPD.
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I kind of collect M28's. The single 4" is a once fired N prefix 1973. The 4" and 6" are 1961 to 1968 S prefix examples
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Hey I’ve got the one of them there NYSP .357’s.
Whoever that guy is, he sure had a bunch of 28’s!
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