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Model 15-3 2 inch with serrated .312 trigger.
The Catalog of Smith and Wesson says that Model 15 with a 2 inch barrel came with a smooth .312 trigger. Also says that there was one reported with a serrated trigger but not confirmed. I have one with the .312 serrated trigger. Anyone else? Pic attached.
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Mine has a grooved trigger also. I'll try to remember to send Supica a note for his 5th Edition.
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My 2 inch 15-2 has a serrated/grooved trigger as well.
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This 15-3 was ordered with RR/WO in 1974. I has a serrated trigger, but that is not mentioned in the letter. It was shipped to Simon Atlas Co. in Washington, DC.
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My 15-2 EDC is also serrated...  ...Ben
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AFAIK, almost everyone's is serrated. This is either a typo or an actual error in the SCSW which has not been corrected, except repeatedly on this forum.
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I have one in nickel and one blued.....both 2" barrels and both with grooved triggers.
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My 2" 15-3 has a grooved trigger too.
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Both my 2' 15s are serrated as well as my 4”.
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Looks like a serrated .265" service trigger to me. ?
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The Catalog of Smith and Wesson says that Model 15 with a 2 inch barrel came with a smooth .312 trigger. Also says that there was one reported with a serrated trigger but not confirmed. I have one with the .312 serrated trigger. Anyone else? Pic attached.
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Your trigger is .265" wide, not .312".
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15-3 Grooved.
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I'd love to know where all of you have found these 2" Model 15's.
I learned to shoot in the Air Force in 1967 with a Model 15. Two years later I was an instructor/range officer for that year's basic cadets...with the Model 15. A dream summer assignment. So the Model 15 is tied for my favorite handgun (with the Colt 1911).
But in all my years of looking in gun shops and shows I have never found a 2" Model 15. I could probably overcome my bias against 2" barreled revolvers with square butts to purchase one. IF I could find one at a reasonable price.
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Sad to say, FPrice, but in several years of looking, I have never found one at a "reasonable" price. The market on all S&Ws, in particular pre-MIM/pre-lock has gone through the roof and will never get better. I gave up a long time ago looking for a 3 1/2" M27 for that reason. Not denying their value, just gone past where I am willing to go at age 63.
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I'd love to know where all of you have found these 2" Model 15's...But in all my years of looking in gun shops and shows I have never found a 2" Model 15.
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Depends on where you look...Right now in a Cabela's in Minnesota, there is a 2" nickeled 15-4, but when you said "reasonable" you probably didn't have in mind the $900 they're asking...  ...Ben
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I'd love to know where all of you have found these 2" Model 15's.
I learned to shoot in the Air Force in 1967 with a Model 15. Two years later I was an instructor/range officer for that year's basic cadets...with the Model 15. A dream summer assignment. So the Model 15 is tied for my favorite handgun (with the Colt 1911).
But in all my years of looking in gun shops and shows I have never found a 2" Model 15. I could probably overcome my bias against 2" barreled revolvers with square butts to purchase one. IF I could find one at a reasonable price.
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They just happen...
I am still looking for one in nickel. Happy hunting 
The one in Cabela's Gun Library looks pretty rough for $900. May clean up...
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I looked for one for years. 15-3. Found mine on a friend’s table at a gun show. $500, wearing a set of Pachmayr Compacts. I ordered a set of grips from Thailand. It’s my favorite gun. Serrated trigger. The marks are oil and fingerprints. It’s not pristine, but it’s better than the pictures
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Mine has a grooved trigger
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Depends on where you look...Right now in a Cabela's in Minnesota, there is a 2" nickeled 15-4, but when you said "reasonable" you probably didn't have in mind the $900 they're asking... ...Ben |
Unfortunately the "nickeled" also knocks it out of contention. Have had a few problems with nickel finishes going bad.
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Triggers wider than .265" are flared on the sides to fit in the frame.
A few milestone dates regarding grooved triggers:
• Serrated trigger change order March 18, 1929 by F. H. Wesson on all .32-20, .38, and.44 Hand Ejectors, .265" wide. Change trigger pull on all HE Models to 3 ½-5 ½ lbs ordered May 1, 1929. So in 1931 I believe the K22 began life with serrated triggers.
• 1955 - Target trigger N (.500”) grooved introduced early 1955 until between 1980-99. Much later than 1955 the .400” grooved and smooth target was introduced. The .320” smooth combat trigger became standard ~1986 and all optional target triggers dropped soon after.
1986 - New smooth forged combat trigger became standard: .312” J, .312” - .320” K, L & N, including MIM triggers, and in 2003 MIM .340” X frame trigger.
The only optional .312: grooved trigger was for the J frame. I've never seen or been able to confirm a factory smooth let alone grooved .312" combat trigger before 1986 for a K frame.
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Snw19, Muley, and Hondo have given you the right answer. Your trigger is .265 rather than .312, and there's nothing uncommon about it.
But, you started a good conversation and made the experts put their thinking caps on.....I enjoyed reading it.
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I will have to check my 15-3.
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Found this one recently thanks to a friend. Paid $600 otd because the $500 he asked for was too low. I added the elk grips made by bigmtnman.
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Here’s mine with serrated trigger.
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My 15-3 has grooves and 15 no dash does not.
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Depends on where you look...Right now in a Cabela's in Minnesota, there is a 2" nickeled 15-4, but when you said "reasonable" you probably didn't have in mind the $900 they're asking... ...Ben |
The OP post got me looking in the 4th SCS&W regarding Model 15's. I have a 15-3 4".
Under variations on page 212 it states 20% premium for factory nickel and 20% premium for 2" barrel.
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This 15-3 also has the normal serrated trigger.
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One more for the crowd. My 15-3 is serated.
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Always wanted a 2" model 15.
Never found one locally. Never found one online that wasn't highway robbery or a bidding war.
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The OP post got me looking in the 4th SCS&W regarding Model 15's. I have a 15-3 4".
Under variations on page 212 it states 20% premium for factory nickel and 20% premium for 2" barrel.
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15-3 with a smooth trigger here.
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Just so I'm clear on terminology ...
... is "Grooved" and " Serrated" the same thing ?
I think know what "smooth " is ... like a babies bottom ...no grooves or lines or checkering ...right ?
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Just so I'm clear on terminology ...
... is "Grooved" and " Serrated" the same thing ?
I think know what "smooth " is ... like a babies bottom ...no grooves or lines or checkering ...right ?
Still learning,
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Grooved and serrated are the same. Just like the grooved backstrap on higher-end S&W revolvers.
Smooth is self-explanatory, no? 
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