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Happy 49th birthday to S199638, a Model 29 shipped Jan 5, 1960 to Charles Greenblatt in NYC who was one of S&Ws largest distributors at the time. Greenblatt was also the distributor for the Louisiana State Police who received this Model 29 and then resold it to a LA State Trooper. Notice the time payment plan. I don't know if $5.00 per pay period was every week, two weeks or a month. But, $5.00 was serious money in 1960 as I recall.
Actually this thread is as much about the presentation case as it is the revolver. This is a good example of what collectors refer to as the "transition case." The case was a combination of the earlier black box liner and tools and the later mahogany wood case. This one is probably one of the earlier examples due to its style latch found most often on the 1956/57 black boxes. For reference, the triangular latch was more common on the 1958-59 black boxes. Exactly when the transition from black box to wooden box occurred is anyone's guess, but I think it was somwhere around 1960. DOC44 would know better than me on this. I do not believe this style case was in production long though, because I have revolvers shipped in early 1961 that are in the later clamshell style case.
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Happy 49th birthday to S199638, a Model 29 shipped Jan 5, 1960 to Charles Greenblatt in NYC who was one of S&Ws largest distributors at the time. Greenblatt was also the distributor for the Louisiana State Police who received this Model 29 and then resold it to a LA State Trooper. Notice the time payment plan. I don't know if $5.00 per pay period was every week, two weeks or a month. But, $5.00 was serious money in 1960 as I recall.
Actually this thread is as much about the presentation case as it is the revolver. This is a good example of what collectors refer to as the "transition case." The case was a combination of the earlier black box liner and tools and the later mahogany wood case. This one is probably one of the earlier examples due to its style latch found most often on the 1956/57 black boxes. For reference, the triangular latch was more common on the 1958-59 black boxes. Exactly when the transition from black box to wooden box occurred is anyone's guess, but I think it was somwhere around 1960. DOC44 would know better than me on this. I do not believe this style case was in production long though, because I have revolvers shipped in early 1961 that are in the later clamshell style case.
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I'm speechless.
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The fact that it only cost $108.25 is amazing.
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Simply outstanding, Chuck. Have you been able to dig up any interesting facts on Trooper Krone?
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A beautiful machine with a nice little piece of history. Mike
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That's some of the most unusual grain I've ever seen in a set of Cokes.
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Simply outstanding, Chuck. Have you been able to dig up any interesting facts on Trooper Krone?
No, not yet but I'd sure like to ask him some questions.
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I hate to be picky, but it is celebrating it's 49th birthday.

Also, Chuck, I sent you an e-mail on the SWCA and how to join or go to the gathering, as you suggested I do, in the thread about the white box ammo.
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I hate to be picky, but it is celebrating it's 49th birthday.

Also, Chuck, I sent you an e-mail on the SWCA and how to join or go to the gathering, as you suggested I do, in the thread about the white box ammo.
Gun 4 Fun Thanks for the correction. I'm from Texas originally and two digit numbers are advanced math for me. I got the email and will get back with you ASAP on the dates, other qustions.
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Gun 4 Fun Thanks for the correction. I'm from Texas originally and two digit numbers are advanced math for me. I got the email and will get back with you ASAP on the dates, other qustions.
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Judging by the value and beauty of your guns, I'm guessing that you can do math just fine!
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Holy ****! That is beautiful...even though it was carried everyday in the performance of the Trooper's duties
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I want the case!I want the case!<span class="ev_code_RED">I want the case!</span><span class="ev_code_GREEN">I want the case!</span>
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New Orleans in the early 60's. Can you imagine?
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"to be used for police duty only" yeah right
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Just a little information to add on the La State Police. Having retired from that fine organization in 2003, I too bought a few S&W's through the department on the $5.00 per pay period plan. My first M66 duty gun for $123.00 in 1974 and a couple of blue M19's for $90.00 later when the Department had a surplus of them, due to the popularity of the M66. When I left the Academy in January 1975 and was assigned to the Troop, several of the veteran officers, mostly supervisors, were carrying 4" nickel M29's. I also got my first AR-15 on the $5 plan for $205.00. Later, in conjunction with a request from the ATF, the department discontinued the sales of weapons and began issuing M66's and later M686's. Now they issue Sig P220's for patrol and Glock 40's for SWAT. Personaly purchased weapons are allowed also. I carried a P226 in 357 Sig prior to my retirement. The 44's went away in the mid 70's due to lack of training with them and a couple of shooting instances where other things were hit instead of the desired target. This brought back alot of memories!!Bob
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That is just beautiful.
Where and how do you guys FIND this stuff?
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i think that's the prettiest revolver I've ever seen.
Makes me want a Model 29 to compliment my Model 19 even more.
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WOW!
Why is that I doubt this M29 was ever used for police duty?
$5 per paycheck gun purchase plan. I think I may need to become a LA State Trooper. Besides thier badges are really cool.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Roadranger:
Just a little information to add on the La State Police. Having retired from that fine organization in 2003, I too bought a few S&W's through the department on the $5.00 per pay period plan. My first M66 duty gun for $123.00 in 1974 and a couple of blue M19's for $90.00 later when the Department had a surplus of them, due to the popularity of the M66. When I left the Academy in January 1975 and was assigned to the Troop, several of the veteran officers, mostly supervisors, were carrying 4" nickel M29's. I


Roadranger: like this one?
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Hi Chuck, I did a quick search, and came up with one Otto Krone in the U.S. (not a common name). He is in Pretty Prairie, KS. Could be him or a son? The number is 620-459-6664. Good luck, and please let us know what you discover. God Bless, Marc
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OH man this is already the post of the year. I am a LA native and my first Revolver was a Colt OP that my great uncle used as a NO Cop. My stepdad was a NO cop and LE revolvers are my driving passion. Man I am going to drool over this post for a while if you don't mind.

Congrats!!!!!!
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More info about the $5 plan. Please remember that when the M29 was purchased in 1960, the $109 price was a half month's salary. When I started in 1974, my salary was less than $400 a month and $5 a paycheck(every other Friday) was all most could afford. It took 22 paychecks to pay for the M29. It's clear that the M29 never spent a rainy weekend in a Trooper's holster. My blued M19's would rust while you watched. It looks like the M29 came from an estate sale and the documentation is awesome. Bob
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Hi Chuck, I did a quick search, and came up with one Otto Krone in the U.S. (not a common name). He is in Pretty Prairie, KS. Could be him or a son? The number is 620-459-6664. Good luck, and please let us know what you discover. God Bless, Marc
Marc, thanks for the contact info. I'll see if I can get in touch with this fellow.
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Hi,
this caught my eye as Trooper Krone was my late uncle & this was one of his service revolvers. He did not have any children, therefore no grandchildren. My Dad (his brother) is the only surviving sibling at age 78.
it was a little spooky to see this.

and yes, he did pass away relatively young. my Dad has outlived a sister and two brothers.
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West...welcome to the forum. I'm happy that the nephew of Trooper Otto F. Krone is the one to revive this 2 year old post. Your uncle took great care of this PSA and I will do the same. For me, the history behind this revolver and knowing it was a LEO who first owned it makes it more special than most of the revolvers in my collection. I salute him and his service.
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Hi,
this caught my eye as Trooper Krone was my late uncle & this was one of his service revolvers. He did not have any children, therefore no grandchildren. My Dad (his brother) is the only surviving sibling at age 78.
it was a little spooky to see this.

and yes, he did pass away relatively young. my Dad has outlived a sister and two brothers.
Wow, very nice of you to respond.
It would be very neat if you could post a picture of your Uncle, possibly in uniform?
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