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I began shooting 29-2s in 1973 and a single 29-3 in 1983. These were fired with magnum handloads almost exclusively for many years. I never used the needlessly heavy bullets, but did cast the standard 250 grain semiwadcutter designs that worked well.

My two remaining 29s, a 29-2 and a 29-3 were purchased new more than thirty-five years ago. I can see little difference in these guns. Accuracy, endurance,and reliability is about the same. I realize pinned barrels and recessed cylinders are a big deal to some, but in the field or on the range I've found these features have no real significance.

I stopped shooting magnum cartridges a few years ago. The 29s shoot quite well with cast .44 Special loads.
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Nice to see, after 11 years the same questions are relevant. I have a 4" 29-2 I bought used that's as tight as the day it was made. With standard loads (WWB 240 gr are less than 1200 fps) it's fun to shoot. 29-5 seems easier to shoot but it has more than 2X the barrel. I'll be long gone before either wears out. Joe

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So from what I gather here, would it be safe to say the 29-5 is probably the pinnacle of the Model 29s development?
I would tend to agree!
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M29-5 classic DX 1992 5"bbl. Sorry the pic is so dark. I need to take another picture some day. I tried to find out a production quantity on the 5" bbl but no info available. I have never seen another 5"
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Can anyone tell me how to determine if my 29-3 has the endurance package? Did not know they existed. Serial# AZE5338, 1988. No box to check info. Thanks, Bob
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I could be all wet here, but I think it has to be a -3E
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Can anyone tell me how to determine if my 29-3 has the endurance package? Did not know they existed. Serial# AZE5338, 1988. No box to check info. Thanks, Bob
The usual visual clue to the endurance package is deeper and wider cylinder notches, so I would guess yours does not have the upgraded features.
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Interesting Necro thread, ...

Because about a month ago at my LGS, just as this pandemic stuff was peaking, two Old School S&W Magnums popped up on consignment sale, both brought in by the same owner.

One is a 'no-dash' blue Model 57 with 6" barrel. The other is a blue 29-2 also with a 6" barrel.

Both have their original grips, and each is sitting on the 'pre-owned' shelf in its own presentation box with factory paperwork, etc.

Condition-wise, the grips and blueing on the M57 are more worn than on the M29-2. IOW, the M29-2 looks to be in somewhat better shape, although the bores of both guns look really good.

So I'd rate the M57 at about 85%, and the M29-2 at 95%.

Owner wants $1600 for each gun, and he told the counter-guys to tell potential 'low ballers' 'to pound sand, 'cause I ain't budging.'

And that's basically what the counter guys have been telling folks who come in and look these revolvers over, and then ask if the owner 'is open to offers.' Price is fixed. Take it or leave it.

As of yesterday, they were both still on the shelf.

Whatcha think? $1600 way too high?

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In my meaningless opinion, it's a little soon for those prices. May not be too far off, though..
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Interesting Necro thread, ...

Because about a month ago at my LGS, just as this pandemic stuff was peaking, two Old School S&W Magnums popped up on consignment sale, both brought in by the same owner.

One is a 'no-dash' blue Model 57 with 6" barrel. The other is a blue 29-2 also with a 6" barrel.

Both have their original grips, and each is sitting on the 'pre-owned' shelf in its own presentation box with factory paperwork, etc.

Condition-wise, the grips and blueing on the M57 are more worn than on the M29-2. IOW, the M29-2 looks to be in somewhat better shape, although the bores of both guns look really good.

So I'd rate the M57 at about 85%, and the M29-2 at 95%.

Owner wants $1600 for each gun, and he told the counter-guys to tell potential 'low ballers' 'to pound sand, 'cause I ain't budging.'

And that's basically what the counter guys have been telling folks who come in and look these revolvers over, and then ask if the owner 'is open to offers.' Price is fixed. Take it or leave it.

As of yesterday, they were both still on the shelf.

Whatcha think? $1600 way too high?
For lightly to moderately worn examples, even with the original boxes and contents, the quoted asking prices are "aspirational". Guess the seller is not in a hurry.
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Zombie thread lives. Hickoks 29 had action repairs done. Also, many of those rounds were 44 SPC or "moderate" magnums.
I`m sure. In a lifetime of shooting 29s,the ones that shot loose for me were always the 8 3/8 inchers.My hottest loads for them now are no more than 3/4 loadings.
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For collecting you canít go wrong with any of the S prefix 29ís (pre, no dash, 29-1 and 29-2).
For shooting you cant go wrong with a 29-5 Classic DX.
you are exactly right.I never owned one of the newer 'Classics",but from reports their built very strongly too
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I was curious about the 29-10. I bought one a couple years ago and have yet to fire it. The revolver is beautiful, I'm not to crazy about the Altamont grips though, they seem thin or narrow. I had looked for an older 6.5" but couldn't find one local. A new 4" classic came into the local shop so I went ahead and purchased it.
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I bought a Model 29-10, 6 1/2-inch, nickel, in 2006 when the model was introduced. I replaced the stocks with a pair from the mid-70s and have put several hundred rounds of factory 44 Magnum (240 grain JSP) through it. I have never had a problem and it is very accurate at 25 and 50 yards. Click on the photo for a better look

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exactly exactly double in this market...he'll learn.
Yeah, given the condition of the M57, I was thinking $800-$850 max. And maybe the M29-2 fetches $900-$1K?

My sense is, before he brought them in, the owner had been eyeballing some of the crack-smokin' prices being asked for the more pristine examples of these guns, and then factored in the buying-panic of the pandemic, and decide to price his worn-but-still-decent guns on the high side.

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I had a Model 29 in the mid 90’s (6” blued). It was in mint condition when I traded it in for something else (probably a Glock 19-YUCK). Anyway trading in my M29 is absolutely my #1 trade in mistake, and have always wanted one again. Got lucky on Gun Broken with a last minute bid for a 29-6 (1994?) with a 6” blued. Bluing is 98% and after tearing it completely down and re-assembly, happy to say all the internals look to be almost 100%. It’s had some rounds through it, but for-aft play on the cylinder is basically nothing and the barrel to cylinder cap is very tight. I suspect this gun fired mostly 44 special. Very happy to have the same vintage M29 as I had before.
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I know this is a 29 thread. I don't own a 29, but have a 629 which began production much later. My question is would my 629-2 from 1988 be identical to the 29-4, also from 1988 except for the finish, one being blued and the other stainless steel. When the 29 models were changed, did the same changes occur with the model 629 year by year?
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I sold about 2/3 of my guns this past year.

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Interesting Necro thread, ...

Because about a month ago at my LGS, just as this pandemic stuff was peaking, two Old School S&W Magnums popped up on consignment sale, both brought in by the same owner.

One is a 'no-dash' blue Model 57 with 6" barrel. The other is a blue 29-2 also with a 6" barrel.

Both have their original grips, and each is sitting on the 'pre-owned' shelf in its own presentation box with factory paperwork, etc.

Condition-wise, the grips and blueing on the M57 are more worn than on the M29-2. IOW, the M29-2 looks to be in somewhat better shape, although the bores of both guns look really good.

So I'd rate the M57 at about 85%, and the M29-2 at 95%.

Owner wants $1600 for each gun, and he told the counter-guys to tell potential 'low ballers' 'to pound sand, 'cause I ain't budging.'

And that's basically what the counter guys have been telling folks who come in and look these revolvers over, and then ask if the owner 'is open to offers.' Price is fixed. Take it or leave it.

As of yesterday, they were both still on the shelf.

Whatcha think? $1600 way too high?
MY viewing 10 different auctions for MOD 29 and 57s over last two months reveal prices from $1,100 to $1,400 at 95%
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I probably have one of the larger 44 Smith collections,and anything up to change 3 is GTG. The 3rd change guns ,while lacking the polish and blueing of earlier guns,are exceptionally accurate. I do not care for the MIM parts on newer guns.Personally,I find the recessed chambers a real pita to clean
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Interesting Necro thread, ...

Because about a month ago at my LGS, just as this pandemic stuff was peaking, two Old School S&W Magnums popped up on consignment sale, both brought in by the same owner.

One is a 'no-dash' blue Model 57 with 6" barrel. The other is a blue 29-2 also with a 6" barrel.

Both have their original grips, and each is sitting on the 'pre-owned' shelf in its own presentation box with factory paperwork, etc.
its a bit high,but older gun prices are all over the place.I see 29-2s anywhere from
Condition-wise, the grips and blueing on the M57 are more worn than on the M29-2. IOW, the M29-2 looks to be in somewhat better shape, although the bores of both guns look really good.

So I'd rate the M57 at about 85%, and the M29-2 at 95%.

Owner wants $1600 for each gun, and he told the counter-guys to tell potential 'low ballers' 'to pound sand, 'cause I ain't budging.'

And that's basically what the counter guys have been telling folks who come in and look these revolvers over, and then ask if the owner 'is open to offers.' Price is fixed. Take it or leave it.

As of yesterday, they were both still on the shelf.

Whatcha think? $1600 way too high?
Older Smith prices are all over the place. In my area, its rare to even find one, though one in nice condx would generally be around 1400 if its not an "S" serial number. A 1960s 29 would add some bucks
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I can certainly appreciate the advances in endurance for the newer models but Iíve really lost interest after P/R stopped.
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Personally, I tend to view Smith and Wessson revolver more broadly then year or dash numbers

My rule of thumb revolves around who owned them at the time.

Smith and Wesson.... my personal favorites.

Bangor Punta.... Very good to excellent weapons. (though they get a little "sketchy" toward the end).

Lear Siegler...... Horrible... more like "you do it kits", here are the parts, it up to you to make it work.

Tompkins..... not nearly as bad as Lear Siegler... More like a cork floating on the ocean looking for guidance.

Safe-T-Hammer.... I don't care, I bet it's been years since I have even touched one.

Right or wrong.... those are my opinions.

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I appreciate the 5-screw, 4-screw, and P&R 29's of course. But the S&W .44 Mags that I shoot the most are a 29-6 Classic full lug 6.5" (BRD prefix) and a pair of 629-4's with standard 6" barrel (BRN and BSM prefixes). Engineered and manufactured with enhanced endurance features and ~.429" cylinder throats, these production revolvers are tight and very accurate. All three were produced in 1994 and, IMHO, are among the finest of the old school pre-lock, pre-MIM, hammer-mounted firing pin N-frame production revolvers manufactured by Smith & Wesson.

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