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Well....that's 2-states were pretty sure about.....that leaves 48.
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Smith & Wesson will begin getting my revolver money again when they lose the lock and not before. I'm not concerned with what some foolish state legislatures foist on their own foolish populace who put the wretched politicians in office. What about consumers who reside in the overwhelming number of states where feeble lock-styled safety designs aren't required? Smith & Wesson needs to stick by us too but they're not doing it at this point.

I admire the used, more traditional Smith & Wesson models anyway. I'm not required to purchase new.
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John has been cranking out "Plugs" for our S&W IL transplants for several weeks now & I believe he really has them down pat. Looks like they are set up for J, K, L, & N Frame revolvers in Blue, Stainless, & Matte finishes. I've gotten several "Plugs" from John, and they all are perfect regarding thicknesses into the IL hole. They are easy to put in and are held in by the Forked Spring. Well worth the $25.00 he is charging. Here are a couple pictures of my S&W model 638 Airweight Bodyguard, as well as the actual milled "Plug". Lets see some more of those J-Frames.
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I have done a bit of machine work in the past and for $25 this is a REAL bargain.
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I'm sort-of handy with tools... are detailed instructions included with the plug?
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I'm sort-of handy with tools... are detailed instructions included with the plug?
NO...just the plug and the clip that holds it in. I've seen a picture somewhere that shows the inside of the gun where the clip clips the plug.......
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There is a link to a video on the forum here someplace, but you can go "Google-up" S&W lock removal...or some such verbiage and find the video on you tube. I think that guy only removes the flag, but you will have to remove all 5-pieces to clear the hole and install the plug.

You can find other videos that take you through the general revolver tear-down out there on the web too if you have never gutted one.
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I just bought a 24-6 with the IL, I also have bought old smiths with out the lock I like both and I will buy a new smith and change out the lock. I'd hate not to be able buy a new one just because of that problem, I think I'll suport smith & wesson as much as I can. Just my 2 cents
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Smith & Wesson will begin getting my revolver money again when they lose the lock and not before. I'm not concerned with what some foolish state legislatures foist on their own foolish populace who put the wretched politicians in office. What about consumers who reside in the overwhelming number of states where feeble lock-styled safety designs aren't required? Smith & Wesson needs to stick by us too but they're not doing it at this point.

I admire the used, more traditional Smith & Wesson models anyway. I'm not required to purchase new.

I recently purchased a no-lock 442 but, other than that, I don't buy IL guns any more. To many good pre-lock guns out there I want!
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There is a link to a video on the forum here someplace, but you can go "Google-up" S&W lock removal...or some such verbiage and find the video on you tube. I think that guy only removes the flag, but you will have to remove all 5-pieces to clear the hole and install the plug.

You can find other videos that take you through the general revolver tear-down out there on the web too if you have never gutted one.
The link to the video is in post #13 in this thread, plus detailed pics in post #14 - it doesn't get much easier than that.


For some of us, buying a S&W without the IL is not an option - my S&W 329PD is but one example. First thing I did with mine was purchase and install the Plug from BS.

And when I sent my 329PD back to the factory for warranty repair, I also sent S&W an unmistakable message about my opinion of their "lock": the IL went back to them in a bag in pieces. When my 329PD came back, the first thing I did, again, was install the Plug.

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I just received the plug for my M-625 and I have a couple of questions. Mine appears a little different than the one shown in post #14. Mine does not have a flat spot on it and it came with a small "U" shaped retaining spring.

So do I use the "U" shaped spring to hold the plug in place or do I use the fork and spring that held the original lock cylinder/cam?

Also, do I have to remove the flag? Can I file down the locking nub that engages the hammer and leave the flag?

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Just wondering about disconnecting the function of the lock by grinding off the nub on the inside of the "flag" to keep the nasty thing from malfunctioning. That way we can preserve the original look of the gun and maybe have some peace of mind. Any thoughts? Thanks.
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Just wondering about disconnecting the function of the lock by grinding off the nub on the inside of the "flag" to keep the nasty thing from malfunctioning. That way we can preserve the original look of the gun and maybe have some peace of mind. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Just searching to find how to buy three more plugs; have two installed and saw your question...

I've filed the studs off my flags and though that would suffice to prevent the IL failure. While shooting a porcupine with my 329pd it locked up - was forced to go to my 360pd, also with a filed off flag stud and finished the critter. The lock still caused the gun to freeze - installed the plug and took out all the **** S&W decided to clutter the hammer area with. Seems to be fine.

If it were not for the scandium offerings, I'd never buy a S&W revolver with the internal lock. Every time I see one I think of the Clintons.
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davemercer hit the nail on the head . Read his post carefully and ninety % of us will find ourselves . We don't need guns ,we want them .
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