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Ok I have been looking for a model 617, 10 shot, 4 inch barrel and they are not to be found. Did come across a Taurus revolver 9 shot (as I recall) for less than half the price. I know what your thinking already but does anyone have any experience with these?
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Ok I have been looking for a model 617, 10 shot, 4 inch barrel and they are not to be found. Did come across a Taurus revolver 9 shot (as I recall) for less than half the price. I know what your thinking already but does anyone have any experience with these?
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They sale new 4 inchers ever day. Why down grade? If you ever get to see the inside of one of the tara$$ you wouldn't buy it. Parts look like they were fitted with a grinder, and I'm being nice.
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Look on the Gunsamerica.com site. Loads of Tauruses for sale but no bites. You would never get rid of it. However, that is where I found the 617 you describe and you might have some good luck there.
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I would rather spend the few extra bucks and buy a Smith K22, even used it's better than a Taurus new. I just wish Smith would make a revolver in .22 Hornet like Taurus did or even .218 Bee. But what would be really nice would be a classic in the .32-20. If you want, I can give you the phone number of a shop where the guy has several K22's.
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Hold out for the Smith, You will be happier in the long run,
Try and look at it this way,
You buy the Taurus and still you yearn for the Smith, It takes you longer to save up for the Smith, And you get it finally!
YAY!
Now you also have the Taurus and dont shoot it after shooting the smith.
Now you try and sell it and are unhappy with the results.
I have passed on a couple of the Taurus .22s in the 225 range and never looked back.
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I have a Taurus Model 608 (8 Times) 6.5" barrel .357 mag... Best revolver I EVER owned and I've had several Smiths!!!! Most who have held it at the range and fired it believe it has had a trigger job but its box stock $369.00 back in 02!!! Its got about 6500 rds through her and she keeps gettin better each outing... It loves those 200gr Double Tap hard cast best and I'm bettin it'll bust up an ole black bear just fine!!! Just cause it don't say Smith don't make it junk!!!! Taurus has come a long way in the QC department...

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I recently went through the same thing as you.* I ended up purchasing a Taurus tracker .22.* I did not care for the 9 shot model. The tracker had better reviews and is solidly built. I did have to go through a few to find one with a good tight cylinder. I have been very happy with it.* The money I saved on the .22 is going towards another centerfire Smith revolver.*
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I have a Taurus Model 608 (8 Times) 6.5" barrel .357 mag... Best revolver I EVER owned and I've had several Smiths!!!! Most who have held it at the range and fired it believe it has had a trigger job but its box stock $369.00 back in 02!!! Its got about 6500 rds through her and she keeps gettin better each outing... It loves those 200gr Double Tap hard cast best and I'm bettin it'll bust up an ole black bear just fine!!! Just cause it don't say Smith don't make it junk!!!! Taurus has come a long way in the QC department...

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In '02 Taurus might've put out a good gun, but my experience with a much more recent Taurus 905 (9mm snub-nose revolver, purchased in '07) and my friend's experience with a Taurus Gaucho (single-action cowboy gun in .357) and Taurus 94 (.22LR, 9-shot double-action) were different. Both of us are now Taurus-free and thankful for it.
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I bought a new Taurus 94 last fall as a plinker for my wife.My 617 was too heavy for her and I couldn't find a 63. The Taurus locked up twice on the first time out. It was my first and last Taurus. Since then I bought a M-34, 34-1, and a 43. Watch the classifieds here and you can find a good Smith for $100-150 more than the Taurus and have something your proud to own.
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I have an older model 9 shot 4" 94 in SS which I bought used and has not been a problem using Federal bulk ammo. Guess I'm lucky.
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I went thru the same process, in looking for a .22. Bought a Taurus
94 and found it had a horrible trigger. It also had a hammer spur that felt like it would remove flesh from my thumb, it was that rough.
I got a trigger-job from my gunsmith, and it was really sweet. Used an old whet-stone to take off the points of the hammer-spur checkering.
The final outcome was a great, accurate, plinker.
During the time before I got the work done, I had been so discouraged, that I bought Smith 4" M63. It, too, needed a trigger-job.
Although the Smith wasn't as smooth as the Taurus, or as accurate,
I kept the 63, and sold/swapped the Taurus "cause it had a 5-1/2"
barrel. Too long for my taste. I'd still have the Taurus if it had
had a shorter barrel. I thought it was a good gun. TACC1
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taurus-sounds like a load of bull. but that's just me. buy american.
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Taurus quality comes and goes.I have seen some good Taurii and I have seen some that are dangerous they are so bad!I believe I would hold out for a Smith.
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Well I just have to say I bought my first 9 shot 94 in the late 80's. I have put 22 long rifle, longs, shorts, & CB's through it and never a problem. Not the best sights on it but a gun I still have. Its a shooter.

I bought a 96 because I couldn't afford a S & W at the time. I'll put it against any Smith as a shooter, not as a looker. Its a keeper for me. It shoots tight groups. The trigger is pretty dag gum good.

Both bought in the late 80's. Maybe thats the difference but both of my BULL guns are GUNS.
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I bought a used Taurus 970 about a month ago at a gun shop. It is my only Taurus. I replaced the springs with a lighter wolff spring kit which helped it a lot. It is a stainless and at less than $300 it is a good revolver. However....

I will never buy another, the quality just isn't anywhere close to the S&W. It is too heavy on the front end and I don't care for the grip and there aren't many other choices in grips. Another thing I noticed is that the cylinder gap is a little large and the cylinder and frame blacken a lot.
It does shoot an acceptable group.

I will sell it the first chance I get and buy a used model 34, 17 or 18.

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Not sure about new production but Taurus used to be famous for otherwise well designed/built guns with lots of manufacturing defects. i.e you might get a good one and you might get a nightmare. Of the 5 Taurus revolvers I owned (in my" I'm not paying that much for a S&W!" days), 3 had serious defects that were never resolved. ( read: LOUSY customer support that you likely have to need.) The last was a new 85 that blew up in my hand on it's first range session. (My gun smith looked at it and said they had not cut the forcing cone!) Beyond that accessories, grips etc are harder to find for Taurus. IMHO, Buy ANYTHING but a TAURUS.
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Lets talk about Night Guards tossing their barrels to the 21ft line now and then???? Read about that one on a thread in here.. I was thinking about an M+P R8,,, Not NOW!!!! I quess Smith'll be wanting the magnum pressures dropped even further through SAMMI to bail them out of this...


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Old 10-04-2009, 12:21 PM
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If your trying to save $ and cant wait for a smith maybe a ruger single six if you can deal with single action only just a thought there great guns.

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For Taurus and 22lr I really like my Model 96. It resembles an old Smith 17. The revolver has proven to be very accurate although the SA trigger pull is not close to the crisp pull you get with the Smith. But for the price , $239 used I am more than pleased and this comes from someone that has owned various Smiths during the past 22 years.
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The only way I would consider a Taurus revolver would be if I could shoot it first. I considered a Taurus 9 shot DA revolver but held out for a 6" 617 and am glad I did. Try GunBroker.com and AuctionArms.com also Bud's Gunshop which is about the lowest priced online gunshop around.
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I purchased a new Taurus 94 last March. It had the trigger from hell. My smith advised me to sell it rather than have the springs changed and spend on trigger work. If avoidable, he prefers to not work on a Taurus. I owned it less than 6 weeks.

I now have a model 17.
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The owner of the local indoor range has told me his Taurus .22s spend more time at the gunsmith's being repaired than any of his other rental guns.

At a gun store recently the manager encouraged me to dry-fire a Taurus .22 snubby. "You won't believe the double-action trigger pull," he said. He was right. The DA pull on that particular specimen was over twenty-five pounds, no exaggeration. Just a bit heavy for me.
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I've never had a problem with any Taurus I've ever owned.

However, every Taurus I've owned has eventually been sold or traded for a S&W or a Ruger.
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Have a blued 94 5" 9-shot; single action is sweet - double is very stiff. Seems a bit smallish, but reliable, accurate, and inexpensive. Just what you need in a .22 revolver.
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I ended up with a Taurus Tracker in .17 HMR and that gun was the biggest piece of **** I have ever owned, I had the gun exactly 3 days before I returned it to the store and had them give me my money back and they sent it back to the factory. I could not get the gun to group well at all, and the trigger was so bad it felt like there was metal shavings/particles in the receiver. The gun had actually locked up on me after dry firing it less than 20 times. Granted, I have had S&W's that have gone back to the factory for repairs but the difference is a S&W is WORTH repairing, a Taurus is not. If you do own and Taurus and would like to double its value before you sell it just load it first....ha ha
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I guess you either get a good one, or not.

Even Smith makes some I pass on after an inspection.

I recently purchased a 2" barreled 94 from a local shop. The barrel cylinder gap was about .003", tight lock up, and decent trigger (which I immediately improved). Very nice fit, and finish.

The sights have a nice red ramp, which I prefer, and a white outline rear. Nice heavy barrel profile. I would have preferred a 3" barrel, but they don't make it anymore.

It's a field gun for me, loaded with the old Mexican made Quick-Shok ammo, it'll put 36 holes in small game, without reloading.

I would NOT have purchased it however, without a very close inspection. To be truthful, I wouldn't purchase anything without that inspection, but especially a Taurus. They are hit or miss.
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I bought a new Taurus 94 back around 200i, when I could not find a Smith. The thing had the worst trigger pull I've ever felt, and I own a couple Russian M-N revolvers. On top of the bad trigger pull it would not get through a full cylinder without 1-2 misfires, regardless of ammo selected. Then after a box it would start to lock-up due to carbon and lead build-up on the barrel. In disgust I stick in the back of the safe and forgot about it.

Couple years latter my kids wanted to start shooting regularly, so I drug the pistol back out, it still was terrible. On a whim I sent it back to the factory under their lifetime warranty with a list of my complaints.

A couple months latter the pistol was returned. Trigger pull was still a little stiffer than I like but was fairly smooth. We set out to wear the dumb thing out by running 10,000 rounds through it in one year. We didn't make it due to other distractions but as I recall we passed the 8500 mark with only 3 misfires.

A couple years latter we still shoot it regularly and it has one of the smoothest trigger pulls you can imagine on a 22.

I still wish it was a S&W not a Taurus, but as a 22 revolver it has held up well. It was amazing how much our DA shooting improved too.
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About a year and a half ago, I realized something. I was 59 - and I don't know how long this ride will last. I have gone through hobbies - and collected quite an assortment of revolvers - Ruger & S&W - some at the expense of some fine rifles, some from culling my model collection, and some from saying goodbye to woodworking tools, the latter was a result of my asthma returning. What I realized was simple - I like my S&Ws.

I sold my Rugers - and bought a few more S&Ws I wanted, culminating in selling my final, a MKII, to finish funding a new 4" 617 last September. I added a 5" 63, actually buying it from a friend's estate, a month or so back. I added Ahrends grips, Wolff springs, an adjustable set screw/strain screw, a DS-10 Speedloader, and a HiViz SW617 over the last year to that 617. The 63 got a tune-up, springs, and a larger Hogue monogrip. The parts were bought piecemeal - now 61 and still retired, I cannot afford large purchases.



I deeply regret these purchases... actually, I deeply regret having waited so long for that 617 - it is that much fun. The 63 is super, too - but I'd rather have the friend back - you are missed, Alex! Oddly, he only shot it once - it replaced a miserable .22LR Taurus 94, I think - a revolver he never could shoot well - or depend on. He had several other 'poor' excuses of revolvers from Taurus - and one good one - a 4" blued 66 - 7-shot .357M. I resprung it and cleaned it up a bit - he found better grips - and, loaded with +P .38s, was his house gun. It was stolen from his home after his death - they left the box!

My point is simple - get a 4" 617. Sell something, if you have to. I reload, but still, a .22 revolver is just fun - and, when you can find the ammo, it's still frugal. That piece of paper doesn't know the difference between a .500 Magnum and a .22 LR - just a different size hole. The fixed steel plates make noise - the rebounders don't move so much - but find the 'sweetspot'. and it may fall over. Good shooting fun - don't do what I did and wait so long... believe me!

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if i may add my 2 cents i have a taurus 22 mag 941 4 " barrel and love it i also have a 617 6 shot 6 inch barrel. i love both, both are very accurate. the first time i shot the 941 i new it would never willingly leave me i feel the same about the 617. now depending on what you are going to do with it is where i make my distinction if i'm going to the range to shot for fun i'm taking the smith, but if me and my wife go trout fishing then i'm taking the 941. my reason is if i i'm going to fall in the creek, which is a given, the taurus is considered the working gun if it gets scratched during the 2 minute fall that i am probably going to take bounceing off rocks and tree limbs its ok. at least i can try to catch myself and not worry about the gun. think about the horror of droping a smith it's like it happens in slow motion. hope this helps. doeboy
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I would not consider a Taurus. If a person does not want to spend the extra money for a Smith how about considering a used H&R six or nine shot revolver. I had a 649 six shot that would shoot 22LR or 22 magnums. The revolver looks like a cowboy single action but it is a double action revolver. It a person can find a 649 or the 9 shot version made in the 80s it will have the transfer safety bar like a Ruger. These are not bad guns. Better than any Taurus. And in my area I have gun smiths that will work on them. Your can get one for $150 to $200 range on gunbroker.
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Back in the mid-90s, I bought a blued steel Taurus 85 2" snub for a "throw-away" gun to keep in my truck. For what its worth (probably not much), I've never had a bit of problem with it and have fired 100s of rounds thru it. Tight lock-up, .003 gap and shoots straight as all get out. Matter of fact, I put 50 rounds thru it today, including a hand-full of +Ps. Shoots great. Don't get me wrong, I love my Smiths and the Taurus quality is a real hit/miss thing that is not even close to the consistency of a Smith, especially these days. This earlier steel 85 managed to be built right and I lucked out in buying that particular one. In your case, I would definitely not take the chance. Follow the advice of these guys....save up and buy the Smith. I don't think you'll be sorry.
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I had a Taurus 9-shot version of the S&W Kit Gun. When I finally bought my Mod.63 , I actually gave the Taurus away. Accurate enough in S/A mode , but the D/A trigger pull was horrible. The trigger moved side to side. All parts seemed so loose. Fast D/A would cause skipped chambers.
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ive owned a few Taurus wheelies in the past, ive since "upgraded" from them but never had a problem with them either.

ive owned a s.s. 4" .22mag and a s.s. 2" .22mag as far as small bores go....i liked their J frame sized gun with more ammo capasity. the ones i owned were very well made and fitted....and since it was a plinking/snake/pine cone.....gun the lock didnt concern me.

would i rather have a 4" model 63? you betcha, but a "few dollars" more like some on here speak of in reality is enough to put it out of the reach of a working man....
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I purchased a Taurus 94 and a 941 several years ago when money was tight and I "needed" both a .22LR and .22 Mag revolver. Ironically the 94 came with rubber grips, and the 941 came with wood, which never made sense to me. So I switched the grips and made each more functional. Neither has given me any problem over several years of use.

Have they appreciated in value the way a S&W would? Nope.
Are they as high quality as a S&W? Nope again.
Are they fun to shoot? Yep, and pretty accurate as well.

Now that I've bought a Model 63 and a Model 651, I'll probably be selling the Tauri. But they were good for what I wanted when I purchased them.
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would i rather have a 4" model 63? you betcha, but a "few dollars" more like some on here speak of in reality is enough to put it out of the reach of a working man....
Don't know what a new Taurus costs , but I recently saw Mod.63s at two local shops , like new in box , for $375 ea.
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Don't know what a new Taurus costs , but I recently saw Mod.63s at two local shops , like new in box , for $375 ea.
too bad most of us dont live around you.....because the internet shopping most of us have to do has them at $550.00+ for the 4" and quite a bit higher for the 2"....
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Stainz, I've admired your posts over the years, and have always felt like I learned something from them. As a veteran well into his fifties, I know of what you speak and heartily endorse your conclusions. I also send my sympathy on the passing of your friend. As long as we remember them, they're never really gone.
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too bad most of us dont live around you.....because the internet shopping most of us have to do has them at $550.00+ for the 4" and quite a bit higher for the 2"....

If most of you guys lived around me , I wouldn't get any good deals myself!
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If most of you guys lived around me , I wouldn't get any good deals myself!

you can say that again....a 2" model 63 for under $400.00! id be on that like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
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