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Old 10-20-2009, 04:27 PM
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I did some trading today for this.
I am going to have to learn about moonclips but I think it will be worth it.
It came with its box but no papers. The box states a special order number, patridge sight, serial # CEE61xx. It will be a few days before I can try her out but I am definitely looking forward.
Not a great photo, but it is clean and in good order with only a turn ring on the cylinder.
I am happy.
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You may get some tools with that gun, but don't rush out and buy a $30 demooner and steel moonclips. They're expensive.
You can get moonclips (polymer) from RIMZ. No tools required. I have them; they work fine. Easy to clip/unclip.
Available from Brownell's. About $6.50 for five of them.
There may be other links, I'm sure.
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You can also use 45 Auto Rim ammuntion and not worry about moon clips
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Thanks Sonny,
It came with some packages of S&W metal full and half moon clips, and a tool made by Calif. Competition Works. The polymer ones sound easier to work with.
By the way, it does have the smooth trigger but the firing pin is not on the hammer. I always thought the smooth trigger went with the firing pin on the hammer. That shows how much I know, LOL.
Thanks again for the tip.
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You may get some tools with that gun, but don't rush out and buy a $30 demooner and steel moonclips. They're expensive.
You can get moonclips (polymer) from RIMZ. No tools required. I have them; they work fine. Easy to clip/unclip.
Available from Brownell's. About $6.50 for five of them.
There may be other links, I'm sure.
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Admittedly, I don't shoot my 25 or 625 often, choosing to shoot my 29/629 primarily. Therefore, I am not aware of the RIMZ polymer half moon retainers. Can you provide more info on how well they work, are they reliable and your overall experience with them? Have you used them long term? One of the primary problems with 45 acp revolvers is the inconvenience of using the moons. The guns are wonderful, the caliber perfect, but the clips are a pain. Yes, you could use Auto Rim casings, but I reload alot of 45 acp for my Colt 1911's and it is far easier to keep the ammo the same for both applications.

I believe this would make a good new thread, asking about members experiences with the polymer clips.
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Admittedly, I don't shoot my 25 or 625 often, choosing to shoot my 29/629 primarily. Therefore, I am not aware of the RIMZ polymer half moon retainers. Can you provide more info on how well they work, are they reliable and your overall experience with them? Have you used them long term? One of the primary problems with 45 acp revolvers is the inconvenience of using the moons. The guns are wonderful, the caliber perfect, but the clips are a pain. Yes, you could use Auto Rim casings, but I reload alot of 45 acp for my Colt 1911's and it is far easier to keep the ammo the same for both applications.

I believe this would make a good new thread, asking about members experiences with the polymer clips.
I have two 625s and consider the moonclips an advantage not a disadvantage. I've tried the rimz and my most optimistic opinion is that they're O.K.. They are expensive and aren't terribly secure. If they are handled roughly or dropped, rounds will come out. I've mixed rimz with the steel clips and have had the rimz wear out and get even looser.

Since I've gotten almost all the .45 ACP brass I'll ever need, free as range pickups, I don't use Auto Rim much at all. I almost never
find Auto Rim brass.

I have more than a hundred steel clips (mostly from Ranch Products) and keep a supply of ammo pre-loaded on the clips. I've shot both Bullseye and PPC using the clips and consider the clips similar to ultra-inexpensive speedloaders. I have several types of demooners and the CCW moon tool. Also have belt moonclip holders.

I'd probably pay to get my 686 modified to take moon clips but I've been told that because of the shape of the .38 cartridge, they don't load into the cylinder as easily as the .45 ACPs.
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You will find shooting it is fun, recoil is very mild in the N frame.
I have a -6 too. Mine had some work done to it from the S&W engraving dept.
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Save yourself some time and trouble and just buy a some autorim brass. Best thing I ever did for the revolver.

Trust me on this.

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Nice pistola, James NM. I haven't had a chance to shoot mine yet but I am looking forward to it. I also like the .45 and think it is just right for target, and SD.
I am an amateur engraver, and really enjoy doing so especially since my college ed is fine art.
I am going to try the S&W moon clips that came with my new toy and depending on how much time I can make for shooting I will probably purchase more from Ranch Products. Also the Auto rims will be given a try. I am not a reloader but I'll save the empties for trade goods.
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clipper1;
I have had a pair of 625's about two years. I will shoot my two about 5000 rounds (minimum) this year.

I am now mostly using Auto Rims cases (I cast my own bullets and reload).

However, I shot the Rimz clips for a year (about 4000 rounds) and have yet to have a single one fail (I bought 15). Here is the price:

(15) RIMZ 25 Polymer moon clips for the below models are $27.50

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When you order them, be sure to mention which revolver you have (there are two different types for the "N" frame .45 ACP's).

Rimz clips are VERY easy to use.

I also have the steel full moon clips and for SERIOUS work I would use them (fast reloads under stress, etc). However, there is no denying that they are a pain in the tuckus to use. You definitely need tools to use the steel moons, also.

This is not a drawback, however, you have choices and that is good.

625's forever!!!

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I use the Ranch Products full moon clips and made a demooner out of a piece of 5/8" copper tubing and some duct tape. I like the Ranch clips because they are so reasonable in price, must have about 150 or more.
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Nice buy! I bought one a while back and fell in love!
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THE MODEL OF 1989 IN .45 ACP IS , IMHO, ONE OF THE FINEST REVOLVERS THAT S&W HAS EVER MADE. MY 4 INCH SHOOTS CLOVERLEAFS ON A REGULAR BASIS. I SEARCHED FOR ONE IN THAT LENGTH (MY FAVORITE FOR BALANCE) FOR A LONG TIME, AND PAID MORE THAN I WANTED TO FOR IT, BUT IT IS WORTH EVERY PENNY. I KEPT ON RUNNING INTO 3 AND 5 INCH VERSIONS, WHICH WERE PROBABLY ELUDING THE GUYS THAT WERE SEARCHING FOR THOSE LENGTHS. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO USE MOONCLIPS AT ALL--UNLESS YOU ARE SHOOTING IN AN EVENT THAT REQUIRES RAPID RELOADS. THE .45 ACP EMPTIES FALL OUT, OR COME OUT EASILY WITH THE FLICK OF A FINGERNAIL. I HEARTILY ENDORSE RIMZ MOONCLIPS. THEY LOAD / UNLOAD VERY EASILY W/O TOOLS. DESPITE WHAT A PREVIOUS POSTER SAID, I FIND THAT THEY HOLD AMMO QUITE SECURELY. I HAVE DROPPED LOADED CLIPS ON THE CEMENT RANGE FLOOR SEVERAL TIMES, W/O LOSING A ROUND. IIRC, THERE IS A VID ON THE RIMZ SITE WHERIN THEY THROW A LOADED MOONCLIP AGAINST A WALL, AND NOTHING FALLS OUT. THEY SEEM TO BE PRETTY DURABLE, AND THEIR EASE OF USE MAKES THEIR INEXPENSIVE COST WORTH IT IF I DO HAVE TO REPLACE THEM. IN ANY EVENT, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR PURCHASE OF A FINE REVOLVER. ENJOY IT……...
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I shoot auto rims also. Never have used a moon clip in mine.
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You had to dig up a 5 year old thread for this?
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I'm surprised it came up in a search. BTW, one eye joe - turn off the caps. They are a pain in the eyes to read.

I had a 625-6 Lew Horton 5". Best built S&W I had ever seen. Stolen in a burglary August, 2011.
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BTW, DOUG M, I'M A DISABLED VIETNAM VET--BLIND IN ONE EYE (ONE EYE JOE), AND CATARACTS AND GLAUCOMA IN THE OTHER. I TYPE IN CAPS BECAUSE IT'S VERY HARD FOR ME TO READ LOWER CASE. I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO ENLARGE PRINT, BUT THIS IS THE ONE THAT WORKS BEST FOR ME. TO SAVE YOUR EYES FROM DAMAGE, I SUGGEST THAT YOU MIGHT JUST SCROLL PAST MY POSTS…….
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Its all good Joe!

I agree the 625's are awesome. If you are ever around Denver, PM me. We can take the 625's out to the range (I have a 5" 625-2 Model of 1988). The ammo will be on me.
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Ok, Joe. While there ways to enlarge the font size, I suspect the icons are too small to see what what you describe. I have to blow up the screen to read most things, but not due to the same level of earned issues you have.
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I agree the 625's are awesome. If you are ever around Denver, PM me. We can take the 625's out to the range (I have a 5" 625-2 Model of 1988). The ammo will be on me.
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I see that I posted in the original thread. Since that time, RIMZ has introduced a new HydroCarbon/Polymer clip. They are much more secure than the original RIMZ clips but still allows you to easily load them by hand.

I used the originals without issue but welcome the additional security of the new type. Just be sure you order the correct ones for YOUR revolver (the Model 25's and 625's differ a bit in the extractor shape). The web site will explain all:

http://www.ezmoonclip.com/

I have both a 625-6 Model of 1989 (5") and a 625-8 JM Special (4"). I run 5000-7500 rounds per year through mine. They are my most used revolvers. They are some of the finest revolvers that Smith has made, period!

I mostly use Starline .45 Auto Rim cases (I cast my own bullets and reload) but also shoot my share of .45 ACP cases with both steel and RIMZ clips (both new and old style).

Keep in mind, that while the earlier revolvers will work well without any clips when using .45 ACP the later issues will NOT. The newer ones use a different type of ball seat and do NOT head space properly on the case mouth like the earlier ones did/do. There was some wailing and knashing of teeth when that was discovered but it doesn't bother me. I have never made a practice of using the .45 ACP cases without clips so it's not been a problem with me. Both of my revolvers are extremely accurate (under one inch at 25 yards with cast bullets) and if the different ball seat is responsible, then I applaud the change. In 1955, my father had a new Smith Model of 1955 and it was not all that accurate (as I remember - that's been a LONG time ago). The throat diameters of some of the early Smith's and Colt's were extremely large and that contributed to "less than stellar performance". Both of my 625's have .452" cylinder throats and THAT is optimum.





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Dale,

Only one example here of a new 625pc, but mine has perfect chambers, throats at .452 and will fire 45acps without moons. My gun had a couple of other problems that were easily corrected, but not with the cylinder.

And yes, mine too is extremely accurate, and a ton of fun to shoot.

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