Unbelievable shock-wave from 500 magnum revolver

[D10]

Posting 2 frames. Look what shock-wave does to the brass. Considering these are 500 magnum heavy brass and they are flying like paper.

[DonD]

Wild things happen when firing the power king of handguns. Don

[Rick_A]

Small beans if you've had fun with a 50 BMG.

[Biggfoot44]

And indoors no less.

[cal50]

Fire in the hole!

[9mmsubgun-m11]

Originally Posted by Rick_A

Small beans if you've had fun with a 50 BMG.

Was firing a friends Barrett 82A1 and the blast wave was knocking over 5gal buckets of empty brass we had on the firing line.

[roscoepc]

What length barrel did she have?

[Cal44]

I plan to order some of Buffalo Bore's 125 grain 357 magnum loads.

These are the ones with 700+ lb-ft of muzzle energy.

I'll try at least a couple out of my LCR 357.

That should wake up the guys in nearby shooting lanes.

Dave

[D10]

Originally Posted by roscoepc

What length barrel did she have?

My 500 magnum has 4" barrel which is really 3"+comp. I shoot hot loads. Light bullets under 350gr. make large fireball.

[roscoepc]

Thanks, that's what I thought! Mine has the 8-3/3" barrel and doesn't have quite that much barrel rise with a 350 grain round in fact, hardly any.. However using a Federal 270 grain Vital Shok there's about a 2-3" rise with a bit sharper of a kick.... Don't know about the fireball out of mine yet though!!

[Doug M.]

Originally Posted by Cal44

I plan to order some of Buffalo Bore's 125 grain 357 magnum loads.

These are the ones with 700+ lb-ft of muzzle energy.

I'll try at least a couple out of my LCR 357.

That should wake up the guys in nearby shooting lanes.

Dave

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I bet it will also wake up your hand, and allow you to demonstrate the difference between Tourette's and a choice.

[D10]

Originally Posted by roscoepc

Thanks, that's what I thought! Mine has the 8-3/3" barrel and doesn't have quite that much barrel rise with a 350 grain round in fact, hardly any.. However using a Federal 270 grain Vital Shok there's about a 2-3" rise with a bit sharper of a kick.... Don't know about the fireball out of mine yet though!!

Mine is actually 330gr and I use H110/296 hot load. That is the recipe for fireball. Heavy bullets like 560gr and 700gr don't produce any fireball regardless of what powder you use.

[D10]

Originally Posted by Cal44

I plan to order some of Buffalo Bore's 125 grain 357 magnum loads.

These are the ones with 700+ lb-ft of muzzle energy.

I'll try at least a couple out of my LCR 357.

That should wake up the guys in nearby shooting lanes.

Dave

It is a lot of fun. These particular rounds I'm shooting produce over 3000ft·lb of energy. Needs double ear protection.

[BLUEDOT37]

I'm familiar with that muzzle blast too. When we shoot ours at the indoor range your bangs jump up, you feel a warm wave drift over you, and the ceiling tiles bounce around causing little pieces to fall down, with every shot. For grins, I loaded up some Hornady 300gr FTX with 19.0gr of Unique (Lyman #49) & it still makes a awesome fireball, just more defined.

Now I want to know about that wooden ammo box & why the name on the lid is blurred out?

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[vipermd]

Originally Posted by D10

It is a lot of fun. These particular rounds I'm shooting produce over 3000ft·lb of energy. Needs double ear protection.

You are getting 2025 fps with 4" barrel (3") for 3004 ft/pd. Have you chronoed those loads?? Just curious, I did not think I could get enough 296 into case to push a 330 that fast. Be Safe,

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Originally Posted by BLUEDOT37

I'm familiar with that muzzle blast too. When we shoot ours at the indoor range your bangs jump up, you feel a warm wave drift over you, and the ceiling tiles bounce around causing little pieces to fall down, with every shot. For grins, I loaded up some Hornady 300gr FTX with 19.0gr of Unique (Lyman #49) & it still makes a awesome fireball, just more defined.

Now I want to know about that wooden ammo box & why the name on the lid is blurred out?

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YEP!! I fire my 460v at the indoor range.. double hearing protection indoors is a MUST HAVE!

I have a brother who owns an 8-3/8 500.. top ported only. I have had the interesting experience of comparing side by side the difference between his 500 and my full comped 460. His thumps the hand harder where mine hits you in the face with the percussion while being easier on the hand. If you have stopped up sinuses when you get to the range, they will be cleared out after about 3 rds.. Both make little pieces of debris fall from the ceiling and every now and then brass from the bottom feeders falls from the rafters! LOL!

Here is a shot of me and my 460 sending some 240gr XTP mags down range pushed my 48gr H110....

[D10]

Originally Posted by vipermd

You are getting 2025 fps with 4" barrel (3") for 3004 ft/pd. Have you chronoed those loads?? Just curious, I did not think I could get enough 296 into case to push a 330 that fast. Be Safe,

You are absolutely right, it takes 8" barrel version to produce that energy, that's why I said in my post that this particular bullet produces over 3000ft-lb energy. It is loaded to produce that energy but it will depending what length is the barrel. I do try to play very safe. I base it on my calculations, experiments and very careful tests and would not recommend anyone to replicate something that one may do, especially when it comes to 500 magnum!

[D10]

Originally Posted by BLUEDOT37

Now I want to know about that wooden ammo box & why the name on the lid is blurred out?

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Well I thought that was the only way to keep it secret so no one would know what box it is lol. It is custom made box but nothing that you could order, friend made it for me.
David

[COWBOYBUCK]

Here is an outside picture of me shooting my Smith & Wesson 500 Magnum 4in barrel with Hornady custom 300 grain FTX. The muzzle flash is amazing.
At another place, I was shooting indoors and a guy shooting about 7 lanes away came up to me and said he could feel the air move around him when I fired.

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[vipermd]

Originally Posted by D10

You are absolutely right, it takes 8" barrel version to produce that energy, that's why I said in my post that this particular bullet produces over 3000ft-lb energy. It is loaded to produce that energy but it will depending what length is the barrel. I do try to play very safe. I base it on my calculations, experiments and very careful tests and would not recommend anyone to replicate something that one may do, especially when it comes to 500 magnum!

I thought that you were getting 3000 out of the 4", and I figured I needed that recipe!!! Be Safe,

[rwsmith]

I don't know what it was but 3 spread apart tables away at the outdoor range somebody let off something that made my pants legs ripple like in a strong breeze.

[BLUEDOT37]

Originally Posted by RIDE-RED 350r

If you have stopped up sinuses when you get to the range, they will be cleared out after about 3 rds..

I first noticed this "phenomenon" when I had a 350cc (twin 2-stroke) streetbike, in my younger days. Twist the throttle & when it hit it's powerband it took off & my nose opened up. I didn't get that with my last motorcyle which had an engine almost 3x bigger though. Guess that nose spray (Fluticasone) the doctor prescribed ruined it for me, but at least now the allergy seasons are bearable.

I haven't gotten to try the 4" 500 & 3-1/2" 460 side-by-side yet. The 500 is about 3.5oz lighter. Surprisingly the 460 S&W case only has 5% less capacity than the 500 S&W, according to my water weight checks (3.98 vs. 4.19cc or 61.4 vs 64.6gr.). The .500 HDY 300 FTX seats a little less deep than the .452 HDY 300 XTP-Mag too so it should have a comfortable edge with the same weight bullet. They're such powder hogs it's just hard to keep enough powder around for them. No matter which, they're a real blast, for sure!
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460XVR CARRY FIREBALL


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[COWBOYBUCK]

They are a lot of fun to shoot. I love mine. It is definitely one of the guns I will never get rid of.

[deadear dan]

Be sure you are doubling up with hearing protection. Muffs will attenuate the vibrations to the maxilla as well which contributes to hearing loss.

[H Richard]

The ammo box could be identified by most cigar smokers. That would have been a good smoke.

[riverrat38]

Some of the descriptions in this thread remind me of written accounts of submariners being depth charged during WWII.

Best,
Rick

[D10]

It is short but here is the actual video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDvL7G6Z80

[roscoepc]

Originally Posted by D10

It is short but here is the actual video:

I don't see the link in your post but it was in the e-mail notification..

That said.........

You might want to consider a wrist brace while using those load's????!!!!! Those loads have some KICK!!!!

[RIDE-RED 350r]

Originally Posted by BLUEDOT37

I first noticed this "phenomenon" when I had a 350cc (twin 2-stroke) streetbike, in my younger days. Twist the throttle & when it hit it's powerband it took off & my nose opened up. I didn't get that with my last motorcyle which had an engine almost 3x bigger though. Guess that nose spray (Fluticasone) the doctor prescribed ruined it for me, but at least now the allergy seasons are bearable.

I haven't gotten to try the 4" 500 & 3-1/2" 460 side-by-side yet. The 500 is about 3.5oz lighter. Surprisingly the 460 S&W case only has 5% less capacity than the 500 S&W, according to my water weight checks (3.98 vs. 4.19cc or 61.4 vs 64.6gr.). The .500 HDY 300 FTX seats a little less deep than the .452 HDY 300 XTP-Mag too so it should have a comfortable edge with the same weight bullet. They're such powder hogs it's just hard to keep enough powder around for them. No matter which, they're a real blast, for sure!
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460XVR CARRY FIREBALL


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Very much agree.... on both counts.

And since my brother and I have been into the reloading game and all the reading and research that comes with it, it seems to us that the 460 can only claim the world velocity crown because it has bullets as light as 200gr available..where the 500's lightest is a bit heavier. Just going on published loading info it seems that with equal weight bullets the 500 is a hair faster... Both are second to none for fun factor! My brother is forever busting my chops about me having "the second most powerful handgun in the world!" LOL!

[D10]

Originally Posted by roscoepc

I don't see the link in your post but it was in the e-mail notification..

That said.........

You might want to consider a wrist brace while using those load's????!!!!! Those loads have some KICK!!!!

Sorry, here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNDvL7G6Z80

[RIDE-RED 350r]

^^^Dang man!!!^^^

She just about jumps clean out of your support hand!!

[jbull380]

Ok I've looked at the pics watched video but my attention keeps focussing on the ammo box. Is that made of a cigar box or what?

[roscoepc]

Originally Posted by jbull380

Ok I've looked at the pics watched video but my attention keeps focussing on the ammo box. Is that made of a cigar box or what?

If it is, those are expensive cigars!! Note the finger jointing on the corners.... Not that I'm looking closely......

[A.O.]

Originally Posted by BLUEDOT37

I first noticed this "phenomenon" when I had a 350cc (twin 2-stroke) streetbike, in my younger days. Twist the throttle & when it hit it's powerband it took off & my nose opened up. I didn't get that with my last motorcyle which had an engine almost 3x bigger though. Guess that nose spray (Fluticasone) the doctor prescribed ruined it for me, but at least now the allergy seasons are bearable.

I haven't gotten to try the 4" 500 & 3-1/2" 460 side-by-side yet. The 500 is about 3.5oz lighter. Surprisingly the 460 S&W case only has 5% less capacity than the 500 S&W, according to my water weight checks (3.98 vs. 4.19cc or 61.4 vs 64.6gr.). The .500 HDY 300 FTX seats a little less deep than the .452 HDY 300 XTP-Mag too so it should have a comfortable edge with the same weight bullet. They're such powder hogs it's just hard to keep enough powder around for them. No matter which, they're a real blast, for sure!

HA!! I picked up a 8 pound jug of H-110 a month or so just so..

[A.O.]

Originally Posted by vipermd

I thought that you were getting 3000 out of the 4", and I figured I needed that recipe!!! Be Safe,

I'd still like to have that recipe to try out of my 8 3/8 and 6 1/2..

[BLUEDOT37]

Originally Posted by RIDE-RED 350r

Very much agree.... on both counts.

And since my brother and I have been into the reloading game and all the reading and research that comes with it, it seems to us that the 460 can only claim the world velocity crown because it has bullets as light as 200gr available..where the 500's lightest is a bit heavier. Just going on published loading info it seems that with equal weight bullets the 500 is a hair faster... Both are second to none for fun factor! My brother is forever busting my chops about me having "the second most powerful handgun in the world!" LOL!

Yeah, the 500 has a wider range of bullets, commonly found on the shelf, though right now .50's are harder to find than .45's around here. I have some of the HNDY 240 XTP-Mag & since I just found some W296 at the LGS I guess I need to try that combo out too. Been mainly using I4227.

I was surprised to see that to load the 460 to the same power as a max 454C load, you have to use about 8-10grs. more powder. And then another 3-4grs. more to get the extra 100fps or so more. That's about fifty less rounds per pound of powder. Oh, the tangled web we weave...

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[A.O.]

Originally Posted by BLUEDOT37

Yeah, the 500 has a wider range of bullets, commonly found on the shelf, though right now .50's are harder to find than .45's around here. I have some of the HNDY 240 XTP-Mag & since I just found some W296 at the LGS I guess I need to try that combo out too. Been mainly using I4227.

I was surprised to see that to load the 460 to the same power as a max 454C load, you have to use about 8-10grs. more powder. And then another 3-4grs. more to get the extra 100fps or so more. That's about fifty less rounds per pound of powder. Oh, the tangled web we weave...

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Seems nobody around here carries anything for the 500, ammo or reloading components!! Got a deal on some 350 gr XTP's a while back and bought 400 of them so that's about all I use!

[vipermd]

Double muffs indoors help decrease hearing loss. Since we hear via air and bone conduction. The sound wave go into the ear and also is picked up by the mastoid process, adding the muffs gives a better seal and decreases the level of pressure that actually enters the ear, but it does nothing to attenuate the the pressure wave on the Mastoid process. The Maxilla is not involved specifically in hearing but you can feel some vibration on your face. Be Safe,

[A.O.]

What??????

[jbull380]

Originally Posted by A.O.

What??????

He said it really loud.

[cal50]

The overpressure is amazing.....
I have three (3) 500 mags and a .50 bmg target rifle with a clamshell muzzle brake. All are punishing while wearing fitted ear plugs & flight deck muffs.

I can take punishment from the above in stride. What really amazed me happened at a machine gun & cannon shoot. My shooting bud and I had a line spot with our .50 rifles. A guy towing his "gun" set up 20 feet to our left side. It was a 37mm anti-tank breechloading cannon. The shells were over a foot long. The 1st round he fired lifted leaves off the ground about 35 yards down range each shot.

It made our rifles feel & sound like Ruger 10-22's.
( Fun time).

I have video somewhere if I can upload it.

[D10]

Originally Posted by A.O.

I'd still like to have that recipe to try out of my 8 3/8 and 6 1/2..

I would love to share load data for this 500 magnum but same time it would be irresponsible from my side to post max numbers since there are so many variables, bullet design variations even with same weight may cause overpressure. Variations in cylinder and barrel alignment may become issue when you are dealing with max load.

I'll give you safe starting point, but please note THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR A VERY HOT LOAD!
Starline Brass, CCI Magnum larger rifle primer, 330 gr lead bullet, 43 gr H110 or 296 with medium to heavy crimp.

Please be safe and always start with lower powder charge and increase in small increments.

This load packs so much power that It will keep any power hungry shooter very happy. With this round you are producing more energy than .308 rifle round so I personally would not see any need to increase powder charge over 43gr.

[Jaymo]

Originally Posted by Doug M.

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I bet it will also wake up your hand, and allow you to demonstrate the difference between Tourette's and a choice.

???????????????????????????

I'm confused.
What does Tourette Syndrome have to do with shooting?

[A.O.]

Originally Posted by D10

I would love to share load data for this 500 magnum but same time it would be irresponsible from my side to post max numbers since there are so many variables, bullet design variations even with same weight may cause overpressure. Variations in cylinder and barrel alignment may become issue when you are dealing with max load.

I'll give you safe starting point, but please note THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR A VERY HOT LOAD!
Starline Brass, CCI Magnum larger rifle primer, 330 gr lead bullet, 43 gr H110 or 296 with medium to heavy crimp.

Please be safe and always start with lower powder charge and increase in small increments.

This load packs so much power that It will keep any power hungry shooter very happy. With this round you are producing more energy than .308 rifle round so I personally would not see any need to increase powder charge over 43gr.

Thanks, that's pretty much my hunting load with the exception that I'm using 350gr XTP's over the 43grs H-110..

[MTKTM]

I standardized on a load of 40 grains of H110/296 under a CastPerformance 440 grain "case hardened" SWCGC bullet, which, when I chronographed it, duplicated the Cor-Bon 440 grain factory load in both 4" and 8 3/8" guns.

[D10]

Originally Posted by jbull380

Ok I've looked at the pics watched video but my attention keeps focussing on the ammo box. Is that made of a cigar box or what?

It could be. I love it. Precision made and holds over 50 rounds.
David

[Comrad]

Just looking at that picture makes my ears ring.