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Old 05-13-2015, 06:32 PM
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The Gun Clint used in most of the films was a Model 25 chambered in 45 Long Colt.. It also was good on close up due to the larger hole in the barrel. He said so himself.. I hung out with him in a concourse car show in Carmel.. He was attracted to my GT40 I was showing.. So there you have it..

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There is a nice Hicoko45 model 29 video here:

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The Gun Clint used in most of the films was a Model 25 chambered in 45 Long Colt.. It also was good on close up due to the larger hole in the barrel. He said so himself.. I hung out with him in a concourse car show in Carmel.. He was attracted to my GT40 I was showing.. So there you have it..

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You really need to do some reading.

As BruceM stated earlier in the thread-
There really should be a sticky for this.

John Milius and Doc44 have written about this. All guns used in filming were 6 1/2" M29's provided by Smith & Wesson. No Model 25's or 57's and no 8 3/8" barrels.

So much for Wikipedia and other "experts".

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He actually used a 41 magnum. But was portrayed as a 44 magnum.
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Let me remove this link. God forbid someone should post a link about a 41 magnum in a 44 thread. Sorry 44 mag authorities. Lol

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Old 05-16-2015, 11:30 AM
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He actually used a 41 magnum. But was portrayed as a 44 magnum.
You sound very sure. Good, how about Actual proof? Every person actual involved in the movie said there were two 6.5" 29's. The only people pushing the .41 Mag theory are people at gun shops trying to get folks to buy a Model 57, "it's the gun they Really used in a Dirty Harry"....yea, right. I love the .41 Mag. First revolver I owned was a full house Magna Port Model 57 Predator package in the mid 80's. Nobody wished Dirty Harry's .44 was really a 57.......but I can't find anyone actually involved in the movie or the Hollywood weapons community (where I have worked and spent a lot of time with) have offered up anything other than the two 29's.

So.....think its a 57, prove it. Research it, find the serial numbers, the receipts from the prop house (which are very detailed with serial numbers and descriptions...cause it is a very regulated business with very well defined paper trails), the Armorer who prepped the guns, the property master who ordered or had the .41 Mag blanks built. Believe me, a .44 mag converted to .45 Colt would have been a far more believable story as blank operation is a big issue.

Good luck and looking forward to something other than speculation.

Just saw your link. Read this again, it is from your own link-keyword-misconception.

"The actual gun used on set by Clint Eastwood was in fact a Smith & Wesson Model 29. It is a common misconception that a Model 29 could not be located and a Model 57, chambered in .41 Magnum, was used instead. Clint Eastwood contacted Bob Sauer, representative for Smith and Wesson, to acquire the pistol. The Model 29 had been out of production for several years at the time, but a number of pistols were assembled from parts at the factory and provided to the crew. Eastwood took one to a firing range to familiarize himself with the Model 29."

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This has been answered so many times on this site by some of the top 44 magnum experts and people still want to believe fairytales.
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Excellent!!! Why won't this stupid urban legend just die??!! I guess the true authorities on this gun just don't matter to some-yeah John Milius made it up!!

I guess some folks still think the world is flat and we never went to the moon. Ouch, my head hurts.

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Your right because I guess you said so. Amazing.
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You really should look up what John Milius had to say about this issue.

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Let's face it. Sledge Hammer was the better movie cop and a lot tougher than DH. DH could never have handled the crossing guard job like Sledge did.
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You really should look up what John Milius had to say about this issue.
Wait a minute! Are you suggesting that I can't take the word of my next door neighbor whose cousin was friends with the brother in law of the assistant to the makeup supervisor on Dirty Harry, who distinctly overheard somebody say . . .

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One thing Eastwood's character admitted in Magnum Force was that he had it loaded with .44 special rounds.
John milus said in the commentary that the movie got it wrong. The line was supposed to be a light magnum
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I recall john milus saying in dvd commentary that Harry was supposed to carry a 4 inch barrel m29 but the movie prop people got a 6.5 and 8 inch barreled one so the latest nag barrel stuck. In magnum force commentary when Harry pulls it from his shoulder holster before Briggs comes in to the apartment he says "wow...only Clint Eastwood could wear that long barreled shoulder holster due to his height"
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No, we are right because you are flat wrong. How about producing something some proof that a 57 was used other than a link to a website that says your wrong also.

Or.......you could just go "oops, misread that and made a mistake".
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If I recall right ,the rumor of using a model 57 generated some 30 years ago from within the gun writing community. Also a push to save the .41 magnum round from extinction was hitting the top magazines as well.Anyone familiar with the model 29 series can quickly tell the difference between a 6 1/2 inch barrel and a 6 inch.The 6 1/2 inch barrel gives the gun a more lean profile from all angles.The loss of that 1/2 inch in barrel gives the gun a more robust looking frame like the 5 or 4 inch.Since the 57 was never offered in a 6 1/2 inch barrel ,its pretty easy to tell it was a 29.

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I thought they used a k22 to make Clint look bigger because he is so small? Clint Eastwood's 44 Magnum
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"Everyone" knows that Clint used an 1880 .476 Enfield in heavy makeup!
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OK, does anyone want to know who REALLY shot Kennedy??? Anyone?...
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That's just silly, silly and silly.

I already established he used a 6-inch Model 19.
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The real question is Harry wearing boxers, briefs, or going commando. And was his choice of undies or lack of used consistently throughout the Dirty Harry movies?
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OK. Time to dispel the myths and answer the questions. The gun was a fake, made out of wood and old pinball machine parts. Clint Eastwood was never in the movie. The actor was a really good look alike and each film used a different actor. After all, "A man's got to know his limitations".
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On a level of seriousness....two guns would have made more sense. A 57 with a longer barrel would have actually been a good choice because San Fransisco PD actually issued model 58 .41 Magnums. One of my all time favorite guns I ever owned was a SFPD marked 58 carried both at San Fransisco and later by a DEA agent. Harry carrying a longer adjustable sighted version of the duty gun would have made an interesting sideline. Portraying Harry as more of a marksman.

A .45 based gun like a 25-2 or 5 to easier run blanks.

Going with the .44 was calculated and created a interesting legend. In a funny way, had Milius went .42 Mag, it may have made that a cartridge of our time.
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Seen Clint Eastwood in this last night.....And he wasn't carrying no S&W .44





Don't know if he was carrying this instead?

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Great flashback, loknload!

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The scene in Kezar Stadium when he is aiming at Scorpio -- depending on your screen and equipment -- can make the barrel look awful long. I have sometimes thought that if they did insert an 8 3/8 in barreled revolver into the movie for "looks" it might have been here.

But personally, I think it's just a 6.5 inch barrel with a neat lens that makes it look so big.

Oh, and by the way, using the Canadian Stadium method of determining height and distance by the relation of the stadium seats to the upright posts that was originally invented by Neal Young and William Shatner at the Vancouver Winter Olympics, Eastwood is 6 foot, 3 and half inches in this photograph.

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Have always liked Clint Eastwood and especially the Dirty Harry series. I wish he would have done one more to end the series. Never really cared for the one with Sondra Locke, never really cared for her either! Always liked the .44 though!
I never knew that Eastwood starred in that Creature film until the other night when I saw it on television?
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He actually used a 41 magnum. But was portrayed as a 44 magnum.
I've seen the Model 29 reportedly used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force in the NRA museum:

http://www.nramuseum.org/guns/the-ga...wesson-29.aspx

To skeptics however what is reported to be used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force doesn't man it's true.

Consequently, I took a screen shot from the bank robbery scene in Dirty Harry - You know, the one where he says "do you feel lucky?"

I blew the screen shot up and on the right side of the barrel you can clearly read ".44 MAGNUM"

Thus, they used a Model 29 not a Model 57.

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I've seen the Model 29 reportedly used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force in the NRA museum:

NRA Museums:

To skeptics however what is reported to be used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force doesn't man it's true.

Consequently, I took a screen shot from the bank robbery scene in Dirty Harry - You know, the one where he says "do you feel lucky?"

I blew the screen shot up and on the right side of the barrel you can clearly read ".44 MAGNUM"

Thus, they used a Model 29 not a Model 57.
Can you please stop posting things like facts on the internet.....
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I've seen the Model 29 reportedly used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force in the NRA museum:

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To skeptics however what is reported to be used in Dirty Harry and Magnum Force doesn't man it's true.

Consequently, I took a screen shot from the bank robbery scene in Dirty Harry - You know, the one where he says "do you feel lucky?"

I blew the screen shot up and on the right side of the barrel you can clearly read ".44 MAGNUM"

Thus, they used a Model 29 not a Model 57.
I did the same thing from an HD version of that scene and you do not clearly see ".44 MAGNUM" on the right side of the barrel, it is smudged out. Even after working on a blow-up of the barrel in Photoshop (lighting & sharpness settings), I was not able to get a readable text.

Can you post your picture of the barrel from that scene?
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I did the same thing from an HD version of that scene and you do not clearly see ".44 MAGNUM" on the right side of the barrel, it is smudged out. Even after working on a blow-up of the barrel in Photoshop (lighting & sharpness settings), I was not able to get a readable text.

Can you post your picture of the barrel from that scene?
"44 Magnum" is easy to read in the final "do ya punk?" scene in the gravel pit at the end on the DVD with any decent TV.
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"44 Magnum" is easy to read in the final "do ya punk?" scene in the gravel pit at the end on the DVD with any decent TV.
I looked at that scene too, and I still could not blow anything up that was legible. Although I was not able to find an HD clip of the gravel pit scene. Maybe a big screen TV will make a difference.

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Have always liked Clint Eastwood and especially the Dirty Harry series. I wish he would have done one more to end the series. Never really cared for the one with Sondra Locke, never really cared for her either! Always liked the .44 though!
I never knew that Eastwood starred in that Creature film until the other night when I saw it on television?
Yep. And did you know he also had a bit part in a Francis The Talking Mule movie? He was a Sailor at San Diego, CA
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I blew the screen shot up and on the right side of the barrel you can clearly read ".44 MAGNUM"

Thus, they used a Model 29 not a Model 57.[/QUOTE]

Bah!! It was a mis-marked barrel!
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This is the 44 Magnum used by Clint Eastwood in Magnum Force. It is a 4-screw in the S206000 range if I remember correctly. Two Model 29-2s were supplied by S&W for the movie, Dirty Harry. They were made from parts in the tool room as the model was not in production at the time the guns were needed. Each has a 6 1/2-inch barrel and bright blue finish.

The movie poster for The Dead Pool shows a 29-2 with an 8 3/8-inch barrel, but a long barreled 44 Magnum was never used in any of the movies.

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OK, does anyone want to know who REALLY shot Kennedy??? Anyone?...

Of course, it all makes sense now!

Dirty Harry did it!
He was the guy on the grassy knoll!
The "magic bullet" was really from the .458 Magnum he used in the first movie!
What became of that gun?
Why was Clint was hiding out in Italy making spaghetti westerns in mid 60s???
Why did he make "Line of Fire", where he plays a Secret Service agent who had been on JFKs detail when he was assassinated?

It all adds up!

I bet if I play all his movies backwards, I'll find a hidden message!

Hope I didn't just spawn a new conspiracy theory. But it makes as much sense as a lot of the ones floating around:-)
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Why argue about Hollywood stuff? Everybody knows they aren't real but, I did enjoy Eastwood in the Dirty Harry movies. Soo many opinions here, must be everyone remembers different takes of different scenes?HEHEHE
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With apology hereby offered to the poster for using his quote without crediting him, I declare I really must learn to properly post quotes in replies.
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One more piece of Clint Eastwood trivia... His small part in the "Revenge Of The Creature" (Of The Black Lagoon) wasn't his only appearance in a 1950's Science Fiction/Horror movie. Clint had a small part as an Air Force jet pilot at the end of the movie "Tarantula!". You can only tell that the pilot that drops the napalm that finally kills the giant radiation mutated arachnid is Eastwood by his eyes, forehead, and mostly his distinctive voice! His face his mostly covered up by his oxygen mask.
By the way, I still like watching those old '50's Sci Fi & Horror movies. They make me think back fondly to my youth growing up in the late 60's into the 70's. One of our local TV stations (one of just 4 total! Way before cable TV!) had something called "Fright Night Double Feature" every Saturday at 7:00. Those old movies show up from time to time on TCM. Check out "Tarantula" next time it's on TCM and look for Clint. Whether it's bullets or napalm, Clint has been taking down the bad guys for well over 60 years!
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One of our local TV stations (one of just 4 total! Way before cable TV!) had something called "Fright Night Double Feature" every Saturday at 7:00. Those old movies show up from time to time on TCM. Check out "Tarantula" next time it's on TCM and look for Clint. Whether it's bullets or napalm, Clint has been taking down the bad guys for well over 60 years!
I hear ya. I was 8 years old (1968) when we got our first color set (I still have the cabinet, they were built as fine furniture back then.)
My brother & I were thrilled when we discovered UHF channels doubled our viewing options. Of course there were the stories that somewhere on the UHF dial was a stripper channel

UHF is where I got my schooling on the classic 50s westerns "Marshall Dillon", "Have Gun Will Travel", "Maverick", "Lawman", et. al.

I remember watching "Little Rascals" and asking my dad if that's what he watched on TV as a kid. Of course the answer was "we didn't have TV, son"
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