Model 10 Variations

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Hello:

How may different variations are there for tyhe model 10 and what are the actual modifications after 10-7?

I just bought a 10-10 that a littie holster wear and a turn ring and wondered when these were the latest variation.

SN: CCP6371, Round Butt, 4" HB, Blue, 59012 Uncle Mike's RB Black Rubber Grips. $175.00, good price!

Thank you
 
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hello ii am also new member you did very well on the price good luck with it also their some good people here that can help you with the variations of your 10-10 again good luck
 
The current-production Model 10 is the 10-14. The Model 10 has been in production since 1957, and before that it was known as the "Military and Police".

1957: Begin stamping model number.
10-1 (1959): introduction of heavy barrel (the frame is slightly different for the heavy barrel, and changes to the standard-barrel variant were generally carried over to the heavy-barrel variant, thus the engineering changes happen in pairs)
10-2 (1961): change extractor rod thread for standard barrel
10-3 (1961): change extractor rod thread for heavy barrel, change front sight width from 1/10" to 1/8"
10-4 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on standard barrel frame
10-5 (1962): change sight width from 1/10" to 1/8" for standard barrel
10-6 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on heavy-barrel frame
10-7 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for standard barrel
10-8 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for heavy barrel
10-9 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for standard barrel
10-10 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for heavy barrel
10-11 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for standard barrel
10-12 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for heavy barrel
10-13 (2002): limited production 1899 commemorative edition
10-14 (2002): internal lock

I'm not certain if the "Classic" version of the Model 10 is a -15, or if its a -14 with wood grips and an old-style cylinder latch.

Your 10-10 with serial number CCP63xx appears to be a very late Model 10-10, dating to the end of the -10 manufacture. My copy of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Edition lists CCD-prefix serial numbers shipping in October 1997, CCE-prefix serial numbers shipping in November 1997, and CCK, CCM, CCN, CCR, and CCW shipping in January 1998.
 
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I always think of the Model 10 as the standard to which all other 38's are compared to. Everyone needs a Model 10! That's a great price too!!!
 
The current-production Model 10 is the 10-14. The Model 10 has been in production since 1957, and before that it was known as the "Military and Police".

1957: Begin stamping model number.
10-1 (1959): introduction of heavy barrel (the frame is slightly different for the heavy barrel, and changes to the standard-barrel variant were generally carried over to the heavy-barrel variant, thus the engineering changes happen in pairs)
10-2 (1961): change extractor rod thread for standard barrel
10-3 (1961): change extractor rod thread for heavy barrel, change front sight width from 1/10" to 1/8"
10-4 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on standard barrel frame
10-5 (1962): change sight width from 1/10" to 1/8" for standard barrel
10-6 (1962): eliminate trigger-guard screw on heavy-barrel frame
10-7 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for standard barrel
10-8 (1977): change gas ring from yoke to cylinder for heavy barrel
10-9 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for standard barrel
10-10 (1988): new yoke retention system, radius stud package, floating hand hammer nose bushing for heavy barrel
10-11 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for standard barrel
10-12 (1997): MIM hammer/trigger + floating firing pin for heavy barrel
10-13 (2002): limited production 1899 commemorative edition
10-14 (2002): internal lock

I'm not certain if the "Classic" version of the Model 10 is a -15, or if its a -14 with wood grips and an old-style cylinder latch.

Your 10-10 with serial number CCP63xx appears to be a very late Model 10-10, dating to the end of the -10 manufacture. My copy of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Edition lists CCD-prefix serial numbers shipping in October 1997, CCE-prefix serial numbers shipping in November 1997, and CCK, CCM, CCN, CCR, and CCW shipping in January 1998.



great info to have
 
eyelikeglasses said:
So are 10-9's square or round butt?

I'm looking at a 10-9, 4" standard barrel, with a round-butt. I don't have my copy of the SCSW3 with me, and I don't remember whether it said when/if S&W went to all round-butt frames for the Model 10.
 
A what point did they become capable of handling +P ammo?

Also, thanks for the pointer to the "Standard Catalog..."
 
A what point did they become capable of handling +P ammo?

Also, thanks for the pointer to the "Standard Catalog..."

1957, when they started stamping the model number on it. Previous models did not have sufficient heat treating to withstand +P. Today's +P is apparently closer to the standard pressure .38s of those days, so pretty much any Model 10 will take +P just fine.
 
Ok, so mine is a round butt. How does the whole serial number thing work? Which numbers are needed? Thanks for the help, this is my first S & W and it's been a great experiencve.
 
Ok, so mine is a round butt.

If you pull off the grips and look at the bare grip frame, you'll be able to tell for certain:

SWBUTTS.jpg


How does the whole serial number thing work? Which numbers are needed? Thanks for the help, this is my first S & W and it's been a great experiencve.

Re: the serial number:

Between 1980-1983, S&W changed their serial numbering system to use three letters and four numbers as the serial number, something like "ABC1234". Just the first three letters is sufficient to look up an approximate date of manufacture in the SCSW3. Prior to that, S&W used a serial number usually incorporating a letter and up to six numbers after it, and possibly a number before the letter as well, something like "2D12345". For those, all but the last two digits is sufficient to look up the date of manufacture. To be consistent with either system, you can give the whole serial number with the last two numbers replaced with "X"s (i.e. "ABC12xx" or "2D123xx", using the above example serial numbers).
 
Cool, mine got dated as 1998. Now to find grips. Will square butt grips work on a round butt?

*Kinda cross posted.
 
Yes, but the part where the square parts of the frame would normally be would not be 'filled in'. With target grips, this means the back will be exposed. With service grips (also called "Magnas"), both the back and the front will be exposed.
 
You can get "conversion" grips that will convert the round-butt frame to a square-butt profile, with the appropriate parts filled in, such as these:

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You can also find grips meant for square-butt frames that will completely cover the backstrap; generally those will work for both round and square-butt frames.
 
Thank you for the picture. It looks like the conversion is what I'm looking for. I don't want to put grips on that have a gap that might cause weakness.
 
Just wanted to update. And I'm not sure of the date. Serial # is: CCK27XX Can anyone confirm date? I think this is called the pencil? barrel. Any proper descriptions would be greatly appreciated. Pinned barrel? I'm lost on the jargon.
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Just wanted to update. And I'm not sure of the date. Serial # is: CCK27XX Can anyone confirm date? I think this is called the pencil? barrel. Any proper descriptions would be greatly appreciated. Pinned barrel? I'm lost on the jargon.
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CCKsomething sounds like it should be in the 90's (I don't have my book handy). Your Model 10 has the pencil/tapered/standard 4" barrel, round-butt grip frame. The MIM/new-style thumb-piece suggests that it was made in the mid-90's. The barrel on your 10-9 is not pinned (you'd see an obvious pin in the frame just above the barrel bore); the pinned barrel was deleted from S&Ws after about 1982.

As a comparison, I had a 10-9 (left) and photographed it next to my 10-6 (right):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kent_le/4428141905/

The 10-6 has the pinned, heavy barrel, while the 10-9 does not.
 

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