Hi,

I'm in California (home of the absurd handgun roster) so I can only buy certain S & W revolver models with specific dash numbers. I am trying to "sleuth" my way through figuring out if the S & W product code # has any relationship to a revolver's dash number.

I found a 67-1 model online with the product code # 102802

I found a couple of 67-6 models online with the product code # 162802

Can I *assume* that all 67-6 revolvers carry the product code # 162802 ?

(I ask because not all online retailers list dash numbers in their advertisements and their customer service staff doesn't have access to the actual revolvers to check their dash numbers.)

I appreciate any help you can give me.

According to my copy of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson, 3rd Edition:

102802 was produced from 1984-2001 and was used for the 67-1, -2, -3, and -4.

162802 was produced from 2002-2006 and was used for the 67-5 and -6 (the number was changed with the incorporation of the Internal Lock).

So it appears that product code 162802 is synonymous with the 67-5 and the 67-6. All 67s that are -6s will have the product code 162802, but not all 67s with the product code 162802 will be -6s.

Thank you so much for doing all that research, Valkyriekl, that's precisely what I needed to know! (Crazy California DOJ says either a 67-5 or -6 is "okay" -for now- so you've enabled me to get my second S & W revolver.)

Hats off to ya!

Sure thing =)

The info was in the SCSW3, but the dash-numbers and product codes were listed in different places. For instance, 102802 is listed as having been in production from 1984 to 1995, and then again in production from 1996 to 2001, and 162802 from 2002-2003 and again from 2004-2006. And then separately listed is the engineering changes (dash-numbers) and the years they started shipping: 67-1 (1977), 67-2 (1988), 67-3 (1993), 67-4 (1998), 67-5 (2002), 67-6 (2004). So there was a bit of data integration there; it would be nice if they were listed side by side, but that would make the book even longer.

I guess that scheme makes sense, though, when other models are considered, namely those with different available barrel lengths or finish options.

The 67-5 has the MIM hammer, MIM trigger, MIM thumb-piece, drilled & tapped frame, and the internal lock. The -6 is the same as the -5, but the barrel is the two-piece design rather than the usual one-piece.

Wow, Valkyriekl ! You really had to do some digging to sort that all out! Now I don't know whether to be grateful first and impressed second, or vice-versa! Really, thank you so much for spelling it out for me; I went directly from reading your post to ordering the revolver.

I know there's a lot of back-and-forth about the IL and MIM parts, but, believe me, we're so deprived of everything except sunshine here in California that we're happy we can buy any guns. (Of course, ammo for them is hidden from us on a regular basis. You folks who stroll into your local WalMart to pick up a brick or two have no idea what we go through; heck, I'd have to drive two counties away just to find a WalMart that is allowed to sell ammo!)

Anyway, thanks for making my first forum visit so rewarding and educational, Valkyriekl.

The MIM parts haven't been a problem for me--the revolvers I use in competition have MIM hammers (though I replaced the triggers with the older forged ones because I like the way they feel). Neither has the internal lock; I've had two guns with the IL--a 617-6 and a 642-2--and neither had a mechanical problem with them. The MIM parts and IL just don't look very traditional, is all (well, and the IL represents a compromise).

We could use some sunshine here in Northern VA; all this snow (something like 30 inches fell on us on Friday-Saturday) needs to go away, or at least get a bit wetter to make for better snowballs. I've found a good use for the handbrake in my front-wheel-drive car, though: on snow-packed roads, when making U-turns and sharp turns, I can yank the handbrake to throw the back end out and 'drift' into a tighter turn...

Anyways. Have fun with that 67, take pictures when you get it, and let us know!

-Kent