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Old 03-14-2010, 11:19 AM
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this had probably been covered in other threads, but like every other V-Bulletin forum, the search feature sucks.

i just picked one up the other day. i got to put about 50 rounds through it yesterday morning. it functioned perfectly, of course. just have a question: is it safe to dry fire it? i won't be able to get to the range for another week, and i want to get used to the trigger. i've had guns you could dry fire all day, and others you couldn't do it at all. which one is the 642? also, what sort of ammo do you guys use in yours? i started off with jacketed wadcutters, just to get used to the sights, then i moved on to some handloaded SJHPs, to gauge my recoil tolerance. any suggestions for an EDC load?

i'm waiting on my holster to come in; it's a simple Uncle Mike's pocket holster. i've used on before, for my Taurus 85UL, so i know it works, but anyother suggestions for a cheap pocket holster? anyone have any experince with the Nemesis, or the Superfly? i used one for a Keltec P3AT, and it was decent.
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You wont hurt it a bit dryfiring it. I've dryfired the **** out of mine. All it did was smooth up the gun and strenghtened up my trigger finger.

What dryfiring will so is to help your shooting. If you really want to get the full benefit of dryfiring and the gun itself is put a set of crimson trace (laser) sights on your 642. You can see, by looking at the dot what is really happening, and what corrections you need to make to keep the dot from jumping off the target.
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Dry firing will never hurt your 642, do it until you are tired, happy or both.

As for pocket holster, I have a Safariland that cost about 25 bucks and it is fantastic. I have been using it for about a year now and I dig it. Here is the link:
Safariland 25 Inside-the-Pocket Holster Right Hand Colt Detective Special, Ruger SP101, S&W J-Frame, Taurus M-85 Laminate Black - MidwayUSA

As for ammo, recoil can be snappy with +P loads, so I avoid them in my 642. Currently I carry Hornady Critical Defense standard pressure in my 642 with two speed strips in my strong side back pocket and a safariland Comp-1 speed loader in my fleece. That is just how I roll...
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any suggestions for an EDC load?
Buffalo Bore standard standard pressure - stronger than regular ammo, but a bit milder than +P

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anyother suggestions for a cheap pocket holster?
Mika - less than $20, works great
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Old 03-14-2010, 04:18 PM
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I carry my 642-2 in a Desantis Superfly because you can reverse the velcroed flap and use it as a sweat shield. My Nemesis allowed sweat from my pocket to get to the grip screw and thumbpiece on my 442 resulting in rust in both places. I use Speer golddot short barrel 38+P's, and they are actually fun to shoot. They have a great street record with both NYPD and LAPD, and they also have excellent gel results through all of the barriers. See the Speer ammo site.
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If dry firing hurt any sort of modern Smith revolvers all of mine would be wrecked by now.....
dry fire it, shoot it, carry it....it ain't a Ming vase, it was designed to be used, carried, and to defend the life of the shooter....
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cool responses so far. here's another question: i'm used to shooting full sized or compact semi-autos: the Sigma, 1911's Glocks, etc.

is it normal for someone who shoots them to aim a little too high when they shoot a pocket gun like this? my first day out, i kept hitting at least 6" over my sights, even at 20'. i've shot 4"and 6" revolvers before, so it wasn't that. i know it's harder to get accuracy out of such a small gun, but 6"? i'm not an expert marksman, but that was pretty bad.

am i supposed to be aiming lower, or am i doing something wrong? i don't think i'm flinching, either.
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my experience is that bullet weight is a huge factor in J frames, in regards to POI....
lighter loads tend to shoot higher.....GENERALLY speaking heavier loads tend to shoot POA for me....the 158 grn +P LSWCHP tends to shoot very close to POA in all my 38 Smiths...
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i never considered that. i normally shoot a full size 1911, so bullet weight never really factors in, unless i'm shooting from really far out.
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I've found the Mika pocket holster to work very well for me. The Nemesis was OK but frequently came out of the pocket with the gun... not good. In terms of ammo, I've also found the 158gr rounds to be closer to POA though not far off with range 130gr stuff. For carry I use Buffalo Bore 158gr +P... a bit more snap but you probably wouldn't notice when the adrenalin is up.
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