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S&W 637 revolver or Ruger LCP
A friend wants to trade his 637 for my LCP. His 637 is fairly new and has rarely been fired, my LCP has been fired more often but at greater expense. The trade is even, should I do it? Would you? The Ruger is so easy to carry but difficult to practice with because of scarcity of ammo. Opinions please!
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You will be gettng the better deal, yes do it.
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Make the trade! And do it fast before he changes his mind! Go, right now!
The 637 is a superior weapon in every way to the LCP sans thickness.
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I would take the 637 over the LCP.
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I also say "TRADE" Don
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by now you should have the S&W firmly in your hand
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I have not shot the ruger LCP but the S&W 637 is one heck of a fine carry gun.
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Trade trade trade before he comes to his senses.
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Have you fired the 637?
No doubt in my mind that a J frame is a timeless classic. I carried a M36 (not an airweight) for many years. Reasonable accuracy and not unpleasant to shoot with a T-grip filler. For my purposes the only shortcomings were the hammer spur which will reach out and snag on anything within three feet. And in South Texas it is always a battle to keep a blue gun corrosion free (but stainless was just coming in when I bought this).
A couple of years ago my DW surprised me with a 638 I had admired at a gun show. A fine weapon, no hammer spur and stainless - just two shortcomings in my book.
1) it is decidedly unpleasant to shoot. I'm not a total pansy, but it is not fun. Not recoil so much as sting. Think snapping a big rubber band across your palm.
2) no one expects a J frame to be a tack driver, but this thing looked one way and shot another. I thought I must be pulling because of the sting (as well as the short sight radius). However, after a I put on a set of CT grips (which are normally zeroed out of the box) and adjusted them (a bunch) it seemed to shoot as well as my old M36 so I don't think it was me totally.
The M36 is still in the safe and the 638 or a CS9 are my EDC, but I don't look forward to taking the 638 to the range.
With all that said, I'd jump on the 637, too. Just be aware if you haven't fired these airweights.
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Have you shot both? If you can, I suggest you do it before you trade. Get/keep the one you shoot the best.
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The Airweights, with the big Uncle Mike's three finger rubber grips and standard pressure loads, are a real softy. I don't find the recoil with that combination to be harsh at all. I much prefer that combination over a small auto in spite of less capacity.
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Love my 637.
Use Hornady 158 grain hollow points with no problem.
+P definitely has more bite, but when you shoot a snubbie, one key is to grip it tight and it isn't so bad.
Mine is real accurate too. Here's a link to the 637 on Snubnose Files if you like to do a little reading...
The Smith & Wesson Bodyguard
Recently put a set of Cocobolo Esmeralda grips on my 637 and it is sweet. They fill my hand slightly better than the stock grips and they come out of the pocket holster with no problem. Go for the trade.
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Have you fired the 637?
No doubt in my mind that a J frame is a timeless classic. I carried a M36 (not an airweight) for many years. Reasonable accuracy and not unpleasant to shoot with a T-grip filler. For my purposes the only shortcomings were the hammer spur which will reach out and snag on anything within three feet. And in South Texas it is always a battle to keep a blue gun corrosion free (but stainless was just coming in when I bought this).
A couple of years ago my DW surprised me with a 638 I had admired at a gun show. A fine weapon, no hammer spur and stainless - just two shortcomings in my book.
1) it is decidedly unpleasant to shoot. I'm not a total pansy, but it is not fun. Not recoil so much as sting. Think snapping a big rubber band across your palm.
2) no one expects a J frame to be a tack driver, but this thing looked one way and shot another. I thought I must be pulling because of the sting (as well as the short sight radius). However, after a I put on a set of CT grips (which are normally zeroed out of the box) and adjusted them (a bunch) it seemed to shoot as well as my old M36 so I don't think it was me totally.
The M36 is still in the safe and the 638 or a CS9 are my EDC, but I don't look forward to taking the 638 to the range.
With all that said, I'd jump on the 637, too. Just be aware if you haven't fired these airweights.
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Regarding the 638...my wife carries one..she likes it and shoots it well.No hand sting at all...However we just bought her a Ruger LCR..it got handgun of the year award from NRA Rifleman.. She liked the trigger pull and the grip...took it too the range and it killed her hand...left red marks and all. I noticed that on the Smith her grip was high and on the Ruger because of the larger grip it was low...That I think caused the recoil problems with the Ruger....it may be a grip thing with you.....frankly, I find the 638 a bit snappy too and my hand is twice the seize of wife's hand.....but it works for her....so we now have a Ruger we dont need or want.....
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definitely do it.....if you end up not liking the 637 then you'd have no problems at all finding someone willing to trade and LCP for a 637.
LCP is definitely conveniently small but the ease of finding practice ammo (very important) as well as the .38spl being more potent tip the scales in the 637's favor IMO
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Words not heard to much on wall street anymore - TRADE - TRADE - TRADE .
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I have shot both and would make the trade...
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Make the trade. If you don't like the 637 you can sell it and buy you another LCP and have cash left over. I have a 638 that I like and it has been my "drop it in the pocket" gun, but this past weekend I bought me a LCP and I love it. It will be replacing the 638 in certain roles, but it's nice to have both of them.
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JMOfartO:
I would say whether or not to trade would depend a lot on how you intend to carry the firearm..
I'm a big S&W fan, (I have a J-frame 49 & 638, plus a 3913, 3913LS, 5906,6906,CS9 & CS45), but for MY personal cc needs NO "wheel gun" is going to conceal as easily the extremely thin LCP.
The cylinder "bulge", for me, makes any revolver a bit difficult to cc easily, and in the hot/humid climate here in S.E. Ga "thinner & lighter" is "more better".
I can stick my LCP (or my LWS380) in a rear pocket (wallet style) holster and I'm good to go in almost any wx conditions, or no matter what I'm wearing..
I'm sure the J-frame is a better overall "deal" than the Ruger LCP, but for cc I'm just more than pleased with my Ruger LCP, and I DO have snubby options that I just don't find quite as practical for my carry needs.
Just personal opinion,
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A couple of weeks ago a buddy at the gun club showed me his new LCP. Pointed it at the target, and it went "click". The target wasn't impressed (or marked) and neither was I. The light pocket autos have a well-deserved reputation for unreliability. I wouldn't trust one as a paperweight. Take the 637.
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I own both an LCP and a 642 which I traded a 637 for. They are both good guns for their intended purpose. All guns are machines that can have problems. Smith built some recent J frames with short firing pins that went "click". The important thing is to choose the gun that you will carry, all the time. The LCP IS lighter and smaller and more pleasant to carry in lightweight pants. Today, I have the J frame in my pocket but I'm wearing Dockers. If I was wearing light shorts it would be the Ruger. No matter which you choose, fire at least 200 rounds of your carry ammo thru it without a problem before you carry it. I also carried each one for a month without cleaning it, took it to the range and fired till empty with no issues. Now I trust both with my life. If you have a problem with the LCP just call the Mother Ship and they will make it right as I'm sure S&W would. Both are good companies.
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Quote:
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A couple of weeks ago a buddy at the gun club showed me his new LCP. Pointed it at the target, and it went "click". The target wasn't impressed (or marked) and neither was I. The light pocket autos have a well-deserved reputation for unreliability. I wouldn't trust one as a paperweight. Take the 637.
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"WOW"....
Guess that means all Ruger LCP's are junk, right?
I would suggest anyone interested in the reputation of the Ruger LCP use the "search" function on any firearm forum and judge for themselves at it's reputation from those who own them.
Additionally, for the small percentage of Ruger LCP's that ARE defective Ruger has one of the best Customer Service/Warranty Repair reputations in the firearms industry.
Just personal opinion,
Jesse
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Quote:
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A couple of weeks ago a buddy at the gun club showed me his new LCP. Pointed it at the target, and it went "click". The target wasn't impressed (or marked) and neither was I. The light pocket autos have a well-deserved reputation for unreliability. I wouldn't trust one as a paperweight. Take the 637.
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"WOW"....
Guess that means all Ruger LCP's are junk, right?
I would suggest anyone interested in the reputation of the Ruger LCP use the "search" function on any firearm forum and judge for themselves at it's reputation from those who own them.
Additionally, for the small percentage of Ruger LCP's that ARE defective Ruger has one of the best Customer Service/Warranty Repair reputations in the firearms industry.
In my personal experience the "well deserved reputation for unreliability" of lightweight pocket autos has been a "well deserved reputation for RELIABILITY"...
My LCP has been 100% reliable right out of the box. And surprisingly accurate. My three Seecamps have been also... My KelTec P32, same... And I had two new NAA Guardians of which one had teething problems early on, but those were fixed with one free trip to the factory.
I bought a new Beretta Tomcat that WAS a ***, but had I taken my own advice and used the "search" function online before buying I would have known that the 1st generation Tomcats had a problem with cracking frames and i wouldn't have bought one in the first place.
Just personal opinion,
Jesse
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Make the trade. The 637 is (in my opinion) a better handgun.
That does NOT mean the LCP is not a good pistol and a better choice for some purposes. I would make the trade and save some money up and buy a new one if the LCP makes you happy.
I carry a 638 as a EDC pocket rocket. I have no need for the smaller .380 cartridge. If I want pocket power in a automatic then I go with a Kahr PM9. Even so the PM9 was expensive and I did not keep it. I did keep the S&W 638.
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[QUOTE=FotoTomas I did keep the S&W 638.[/QUOTE]
My favorite 38cal. snubby is my 638 Airweight Bodyguard. I love the wide, smooth target trigger, and with the addition of Crimson Trace Lasergrips I think it's the perfect revolver for concealed carry.
I'm quite fond of my 9MM CS9 also.
Just personal opinion,
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Regarding the 638...my wife carries one..she likes it and shoots it well.No hand sting at all...However we just bought her a Ruger LCR..it got handgun of the year award from NRA Rifleman.. She liked the trigger pull and the grip...took it too the range and it killed her hand...left red marks and all. I noticed that on the Smith her grip was high and on the Ruger because of the larger grip it was low...That I think caused the recoil problems with the Ruger....it may be a grip thing with you.....frankly, I find the 638 a bit snappy too and my hand is twice the seize of wife's hand.....but it works for her....so we now have a Ruger we dont need or want.....
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Thanks for the suggestion. I may try a different grip next time at the range. Of course, what can you do different when you can only wrap 2 fingers around it? <G> Perhaps I'm just surprised at how differently it feels from the M36.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I may try a different grip next time at the rage. Of course, what can you do different when you can only wrap 2 fingers around it? <G> Perhaps I'm just surprised at how differently it feels from the M36.
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I too have a M36 and it handles the recoil a bit better than the 638, my guess is because its steel V aluminum....I was once the proud owner of a Model 12 2" and that seemed to handle the recoil fairly well from what I remember...... but I tend to think youre on the mark with the difference issue between the 36 &638
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I own and love the LCP. Very easy to conceal. Mine has been 100% right out of the box. However, if someone offered a trade on a J frame in good condition I would do it. Just a matter of which is worth more money. Makes good sense to me.
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In a heartbeat I'd make the trade. Thats truely good luck to run into a fool like that. Not sure why you would even hesitate. If the issue is concealability,there is no issue. Some people have carried an Airweight in their pocket 20 - 30 years and it was never spotted. Im one of them. Doesnt matter what kinda pants your wearing.Thats a mental issue that goes away after a week.
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Sounds like a great trade, do it - after you inspect the frame for a crack under the barrel.
BTW, I presently own 3 airweight J frames -0 problems.
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Take the 637, and try to make it thru the whole trade without a snicker.
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New 637 air weight 1'' 7/8 ???
Hello, I am new to the site and just had my first bad taste
of a 637 air weight 4 rounds of mag tech ammo and the
gun breaks??? the cylinder wont turn with the trigger pull.
So i am sending it back to S&W and I want to shoot +p
once so often?? it is to be rated for +p my wife has a
Talo 38 Air weight and has had no problem, with both
rounds?? and I own a 940-1 is smith getting Cheap!!!
what do you think Broke??
Thank you
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GEt the 637 and then bobb that hammer!
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I have a 442 and a LCP, 442 stays in the safe. GASP!!!!! 442 is fatter, prints more in jeans, heavier, LCP is just easier. Call me lazy. Smith is a better gun, no doubt and I like shooting it more than the LCP, which has bit me a few times, (slide). To me, the LCP is just a tool to accomplish a task. S&W's are ART.
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I'd make the trade without hesitation. Not only are you getting a better gun, you're also getting a better cartridge.
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Hopefully the OP made up his mind about the trade already. This is a two-year old thread which for some reason has been revived.
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Yeah, I'd jump on the trade. That being said, I own and carry a Ruger LCP a lot of the time and mine has been flawless. Nevertheless, I'd still make the trade. One thing I don't understand is that where I live Wally World has all the .380 WWB FMJ that I care to buy. Don't know what's up with where the OP lives.
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Quote:
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Hello, I am new to the site and just had my first bad taste
of a 637 air weight 4 rounds of mag tech ammo and the
gun breaks??? the cylinder wont turn with the trigger pull.
So i am sending it back to S&W and I want to shoot +p
once so often?? it is to be rated for +p my wife has a
Talo 38 Air weight and has had no problem, with both
rounds?? and I own a 940-1 is smith getting Cheap!!!
what do you think Broke??
Thank you
K luper
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More than likely the internal lock (key lock on the side of the frame) is causing the problem.
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