Can anyone tell me what this gun would be worth in today's market? Wasn't looking for it but it found me. Aint that the way it always happens?

There's some good info here: Questions: 617-4 ten-shot .22.

Unfortunately there are not a lot of sales in that data so the numbers aren't statistically significant. Therefore prices will vary greatly. For example I paid $645 for a brand new one in March, which probably isn't a realistic price. If we had enough data that would be an outlier.

It looks to me like less than $600 would probably be reasonable enough. Though $600 still seems plenty high to me.

With all the lock haters the prelocks probably fetch more of a premium, above the regular premium of just any 617 nowadays. I've heard more than a couple speculate that the 6" aren't quite as valuable as well. As it seems most prefer the 4".

As you probably know the supply is quite low for 617s and the demand way up. At this point it probably just comes down to how much are you willing to part for one.

What it should cost and what it'll probably cost could be a long way apart. I'd consider $700 high but a go, anything less would be immediate purchase. There are no good deals in my part of the world. Pre lock, 10 shot: yeah, I'd be willing to pay for that one.

Thanks for the information. They are asking $599 and the guy said he could negotiate. I can wheel and deal with the best of them, but I don't want to insult the man. Don't really have too much saved up in the old Smith and Wesson fund, but I don't want to pass up a good thing. I am very partial to the prelock examples.

Is 6" the preferred size in this model, or is it the 4"? Which one makes for a better fun shooter for targets and such?

Barrel doesn't make much difference unless you've already got one and want the other. For that 6" I'd already be walking away with it at that price. Saw a -1 6 shot, 6" with target hammer and trigger go for $500 two years ago at a local shop, no used ones since; I thought THAT one was a good price and the guy who bought it didn't think twice! If you've got a sales tax in Fl try for $599 out the door but if he says no I got to admit I'd buy it anyway.

I saw a used 4" last week for a "salty" $649.

Offer him $550. He absolutely told you he'd take less.

I do think most prefer the 4". I definitely do. It wasn't night and day though.

Thanks for the shout out but I beg to differ slightly. Just the fact that there aren't that many prices in the data is significant to the extent that you just don't see many of the 617s for sale, especially the four and six inch barreled versions.

What is more important is the price trend over the period the data were collected, three months shy of seven years. You can see from the scattered data points that nearly all the prices could be considered outliers if we were talking an overall average price. But we're not. The trend is pretty clear.

I agree with the last part of your statement, about willingness to pay. That's what makes the trend. Demand is up and just finding one is a rare occasion. People pay more.

Bud's last price was $670.00 (probably included delivery), so your price was probably not an outlier but a very good deal for NIB.

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I think the info assembled is awesome and rather interesting. It certainly provides more info than most people would have to make a decision. However, 44 data points over 7 years is just an absolutely tiny amount of data statisticLly speaking. It's just not enough data to draw mathematically based conclusions from.

It is enough to discern a trend. That's all I'm saying.

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Thanks again for all the great information. I believe that the lack of "data points" is a true testament that there just aren't that many being sold. There may be a good reason for that.

You're welcome. The scarcity of data points is indeed indicative of the population of 617s being sold. Unless that population is known, the statistical validity can not be calculated. That's why I go for a trend and not to predict with high certainty what a price might be. Additionally, 617 sales are not random events and are somewhat dependent on market values and trends both of which cause and result from change. Moving targets, if you will.

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