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Old 06-03-2017, 04:03 PM
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I have most of my revolvers loaded and ready to go safely locked up. No children in the house, my son is 24 and a is very careful with my guns. I have in the past years been using a red rubber band to indicate caution and that my guns maybe loaded. It has been a good reminder when I handle my guns.

Now if I had to grab and shoot any of them the red rubber band wont slow things up (If). But it is another safety measure I use.

Rubber band can be bought at Office Depot in many colors. Cheers.


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"A sixgun or automatic pistol is a tool, and a deadly one; handle them as such. From the start, consider all guns as being loaded whether you know them to be empty or not. Treat them as loaded guns and you will never have an accident. I am scared of empty guns and keep mine loaded at all times. The family knows the guns are loaded and treats them with respect. Loaded guns cause few accidents; "empty guns" kill people every year." –Elmer Keith, Sixguns, p. 87
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I have most of my revolvers loaded and ready to go safely locked up. No children in the house, my son is 24 and a is very careful with my guns. I have in the past years been using a red rubber band to indicate caution and that my guns maybe loaded. It has been a good reminder when I handle my guns.

Now if I had to grab and shoot any of them the red rubber band wont slow things up (If). But it is another safety measure I use.

Rubber band can be bought at Office Depot in many colors. Cheers.
Never felt the need to do anything like that. If I wanted a visual reminder I would just leave the cylinder open, with a speedloader inserted but not pressed in all the way. I'd be able to tell from across the room this revolver is ready for action.
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Those are some pretty rubber bands, though.
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:44 PM
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Whatever system works for you go for it...your guns, your peace of mind.

I think that awesome revolver makes those rubber bands look good.
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Whatever works for you is good.

I just keep everything larger than .22LR loaded with my preferred self-defense rounds/shells.
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Old 06-03-2017, 04:58 PM
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Every gun is a loaded gun until I verify its unloaded as far as I'm concerned. And I keep 2 of my guns loaded on a regular basis.

If the rubber band helps that's great but what about guns without the bands. I'm guessing you verify those are unloaded before handling and such.
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I suppose if it makes you feel better, go ahead. I don't see a reason for anything like that. Further, I wouldn't want anything like that impeding the operation of the gun. That band is going to add resistance not only to the hammer, but also to cylinder rotation, albeit probably a negligible amount. And while it may be statistically unlikely, what happens if you need to reload? Have you at least done dry fire practice with the band in place to see how it affects the way you operate it? Or practiced removing the band when retrieving it?
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That's also a very nice picture of your 686 - and it's neat how the red from the rubber bands actually matches the red in your grips. Do they only have one width, or would it be possible to get some wider bands? Then you could write some handy info on them like date loaded, ammo brand, bullet weight and such. Very good idea to wrap it up like that with a red rubber band!!
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I can see where that would be a visual reminder. All of mine are loaded.
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. . . Do they only have one width, or would it be possible to get some wider bands? Then you could write some handy info on them like date loaded, ammo brand, bullet weight and such. Very good idea to wrap it up like that with a red rubber band!!
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I have found the safest place for a loaded gun is on my hip.

1)within easy reach
2)safely secured, and prying hands would be difficult.
3)Even if you have only one gun it is accessible in every room in the house.
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Maybe there was just a smidge of tongue in cheek in my comments ... That said, it's an original idea - and I do use large, thick rubber bands to hold a few handguns into their holsters. Just came in from a walk in the neighborhood and the G42 is in a DeSantis ... with a thick band on it. The part about writing things on the bands was pure ... baloney ...

Started doing this after the hammer on my SIG 238 put a heck of a hole in the wood floor ... when I dropped it ... To keep this comment on topic for safety - not seen on the G42 is the Saf-t-blok behind the trigger - and I thought I saw that the Saf-t-bloks are offered in red now.

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Maybe there was just a smidge of tongue in cheek in my comments ... That said, it's an original idea - and I do use large, thick rubber bands to hold a few handguns into their holsters. Just came in from a walk in the neighborhood and the G42 is in a DeSantis ... with a thick band on it. The part about writing things on the bands was pure ... baloney ...
Having a hard time visualizing a thick rubber band around any part of a Glock 42, and how it would aid keeping it in a holster . . . ?
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When you run out of ammo, you can shoot your rubber band.
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Having a hard time visualizing a thick rubber band around any part of a Glock 42, and how it would aid keeping it in a holster . . . ?
Dat's why I posted the pitcher, sir - to help with the visualization process ... I think I may PM the OP to see if he can drop a few of those red bands in an envelope for me - I really like them - nice contrast with my Glock and DeSantis holster.

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OP.....you had to know that putting pink rubber bands around your 686 would inspire controversy, didn't you ?
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The rubber band breaks or otherwise comes off. What do we have now? An unloaded gun?
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I just treat all of mine as if they are loaded at all times. Even if they aren't loaded. Saves me a ton of money on rubber bands.
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Are those rubber bands tactical?
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Maybe there was just a smidge of tongue in cheek in my comments ... That said, it's an original idea - and I do use large, thick rubber bands to hold a few handguns into their holsters. Just came in from a walk in the neighborhood and the G42 is in a DeSantis ... with a thick band on it. The part about writing things on the bands was pure ... baloney ...

Started doing this after the hammer on my SIG 238 put a heck of a hole in the wood floor ... when I dropped it ... To keep this comment on topic for safety - not seen on the G42 is the Saf-t-blok behind the trigger - and I thought I saw that the Saf-t-bloks are offered in red now.
I've carried a Glock 42 in that exact same holster. It was completely secure. If I felt like I needed a rubber band to hold it in, I would send it right back to DeSantis and tell them the holster is defective.

I had never even heard of the Saf-T-Blok until your post, what an idea, you have to poke around behind the trigger before your gun is usable. Yes, that's just what I want to be doing while some guy is punching me in the face or plunging a knife into me.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest perhaps you would be better served with a different gun, different carry method, or both.
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The way I see it, the issue is not how gun nuts see these guns, with or without rubber bands - we all know that any gun should be treated as loaded until proven otherwise, and even pretty much thereafter. Where I see an issue is what things look like to a person ignorant of firearms. Most folks (but NOT all), ignorant or not, are smart enough to keep their hands to themselves until they can get a competent person to do whatever needs to be done. I am thinking now primarily of what would happen in the unfortunate but inevitable case of my death, hopefully at the age of 120.

Those few guns in my safe which actually ARE loaded (at present, none, but often one or even two) are hanging behind a bright yellow or orange tag which says "LOADED" - not a lot of room for confusion for the English-speaking among my mourners.

I feel that this targets those who actually might need the information, and quite clearly, without impeding the utility of actual weapons or wasting effort to warn people who already know better.

OP: Who is your target audience?

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All the guns in my house are loaded. An unloaded gun is a paper weight.
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Maybe S&W should get rid of the lock and just put a rubber band in the box.
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Whatever, no matter how small, any attempt to improve on gun safety should be applauded. As forgetful as I am sometimes it's a good thing I know my firearms are loaded and I don't have to think about it. Otherwise I just might need a red rubber reminder if sometimes they weren't loaded. Thanks for the idea OP.
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...there is no sure thing so to me, it's loaded, whether it has a rubber band on it or not. I would probably be more useful to me to indicate that, in an emergency, the gun was 'ready to go', especially on a semi.
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I like it. Reminds me of when I was a kid back in the '60s. We had an older gentleman who lived on our street. Most of the kids knew him. He was a nice but gruff guy and he liked all of us. He kept a .38 on his table with a rubber band on the grip when it was loaded, and everyone knew to not touch it when the band was there. (Not that we'd touch it anyway....) I think that was the first gun I'd ever seen close-up that wasn't in a policeman's holster.
Anyway, nice idea and a little nostalgia to boot.
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I'll second that idea. As soon as they ditch that goofy lock I would likely pick up several new revolvers.
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All the guns in my house are loaded. An unloaded gun is a paper weight.


I have a safe full of paper weights I guess.

I usually only have a couple loaded at any given time. Usually my carry gun (which does double duty as my nightstand gun) and a long gun of some sort.

To each their own, but for me it just doesn't make sense to have everything I own loaded all the time. I suppose if a person only owned a few firearms then that would make sense. Not sure why a guy who owned dozens or hundreds of firearms would need them all loaded all the time.
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Dat's why I posted the pitcher, sir - to help with the visualization process ... I think I may PM the OP to see if he can drop a few of those red bands in an envelope for me - I really like them - nice contrast with my Glock and DeSantis holster.
You added the picture five minutes after I asked the question. Now I'm really confused. How do you get it out of the holster when needed?
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.................................... How do you get it out of the holster when needed?
It probably involves Kung-Fu, a lifetime of instruction from Shao Lin monks, and visualization.



Who would of thought a thread about rubber bands would generate such interest? On the other hand those are really nice looking rubber bands, sort of a cross between crimson and magenta, very uniform with nice sharp straight edges, and their elasticity looks second to none.
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The OP is prolly ROFL right now! IMO, he 'Trumped' most of the commenters here (most recent 'Trump' - the word 'covfefe' or however it was spelled). I could very well be wrong about his intent - but I interpreted his post as an April Fool's joke. Has anyone else noticed that he hasn't come back to comment or defend himself? Maybe he did, but I don't see any subsequent posts from him. Now, I have to come clean, ALL of my comments, save one, have been equally in jest.

I thought I was playing along with his joke - maybe he was serious - but I don't think so. New photo:

How many rubber bands do I have to wrap around this poor Glock until the Armchair Tacticians here realize that I am flocking with them? Oh, but one thing is serious: Saf-t-blok. I now use them religiously - contrary to Tactical Thought - it takes a couple of nanoseconds to push the block out, as part of putting your finger into the triggerguard.

Last but not least - I was taken, once, here on SWF a few months back. I thought the post was serious and fell for it hook, line and sinker. This post by OP, I thought, was a good chance for payback on all of the (way too many) Serious Sally's posting here!!

Edited to add: Mehutch - please come clean on this post before it blows up Mr. Gore's internet!!

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I'm not going to criticize or poke fun at the OP for his rubber band idea. If it works for him, who am I to say him nay?

Even though I don't shoot it often, I tried the rubber band thing on a 6-inch 28-2. Dry fired it. Contrary to what some people think, it doesn't impede cylinder rotation or hammer movement a bit. Oh, and it doesn't affect the trigger pull, either.

I actually do something similar with my Glock 30S. To me, the pistol's loaded chamber indicator doesn't look a whole lot different when a round's in the chamber and when a round isn't chambered.

So. My dogs' heartworm medication comes with a strip of small red heart-shaped self-adhesive stickers. About the size of the nail on my little finger. So I just stick one of 'em on the slide...either on the top or on the rear. It's easily visible, doesn't hurt the finish, and doesn't cost me anything. And it gets my attention.

And on my kitchen drawer .357, I actually have a little red Post-it Note stuck to the cylinder that says, "It's loaded, dummy!"

I treat every gun as loaded. But I see absolutely nothing wrong with a little added precaution. I almost got shot with a gun that someone else thought wasn't loaded. It would've killed me, there's no doubt in my mind about that.

Anyone can make a mistake with a gun. Anyone.
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So. My dogs' heartworm medication comes with a strip of small red heart-shaped self-adhesive stickers. About the size of the nail on my little finger. So I just stick one of 'em on the slide...either on the top or on the rear. It's easily visible, doesn't hurt the finish, and doesn't cost me anything. And it gets my attention.
Now that's a slick idea. I guess it's safe to admit here that I use little strips of label tape on a couple of mine. It looks ghetto but serves as a decent reminder in good light. Understand, all handguns should be treated as loaded - but if I forget the status and happen to pick one up - the label tape has worked so far. Now, if those little heart stickers were glow in the dark!!

Edited to add: found a batch of red glitter stickers ($3, shipped) on that place that everyone shops - but no one admits to! They're ordered...

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The OP is prolly ROFL right now! IMO, he 'Trumped' most of the commenters here (most recent 'Trump' - the word 'covfefe' or however it was spelled). I could very well be wrong about his intent - but I interpreted his post as an April Fool's joke. Has anyone else noticed that he hasn't come back to comment or defend himself? Maybe he did, but I don't see any subsequent posts from him. Now, I have to come clean, ALL of my comments, save one, have been equally in jest.

I thought I was playing along with his joke - maybe he was serious - but I don't think so. New photo:

How many rubber bands do I have to wrap around this poor Glock until the Armchair Tacticians here realize that I am flocking with them? Oh, but one thing is serious: Saf-t-blok. I now use them religiously - contrary to Tactical Thought - it takes a couple of nanoseconds to push the block out, as part of putting your finger into the triggerguard.

Last but not least - I was taken, once, here on SWF a few months back. I thought the post was serious and fell for it hook, line and sinker. This post by OP, I thought, was a good chance for payback on all of the (way too many) Serious Sally's posting here!!

Edited to add: Mehutch - please come clean on this post before it blows up Mr. Gore's internet!!
Well you fooled me with that one. I still don't see any purpose to the Saf-T-Blok, but, it's your life you have to protect....
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Whatever, no matter how small, any attempt to improve on gun safety should be applauded.
Couldn't disagree more. The misguided attempts by legislators and manufacturers in this regard are legion. One is so controversial as to have promoted a special sticky instruction on this forum . . .

As an aside, I could reduce traffic fatalities to near zero in a month. Require that any motor vehicle be governed so as to not exceed 5 mph. Problem solved . . .
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Well if all else fails they do make chamber flags, some guns even come with them.
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As an aside, I could reduce traffic fatalities to near zero in a month. Require that any motor vehicle be governed so as to not exceed 5 mph. Problem solved . . .
The above reminded me of True Grit:

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Rooster Cogburn: Yeah! This is the famous horse killer from El Paso. He believes in puttin' everybody afoot. Says there'll be less mischief that way.
LaBoeuf: Fewer horses - fewer horse thieves.
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Couldn't disagree more. The misguided attempts by legislators and manufacturers in this regard are legion. One is so controversial as to have promoted a special sticky instruction on this forum . . .

As an aside, I could reduce traffic fatalities to near zero in a month. Require that any motor vehicle be governed so as to not exceed 5 mph. Problem solved . . .
California has already tried to legislate gun safety with a roster of approved handguns, that's really worked out well for the consumer hasn't it?
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As an aside, I could reduce traffic fatalities to near zero in a month. Require that any motor vehicle be governed so as to not exceed 5 mph. Problem solved . . .
Part of the practical driving exam is to correctly PARALLEL park on both sides of the street. A second part is to drive on the interstate at highway speed to demonstrate understanding of correct following distance. Then evaluate following/stopping distance at a traffic light. I'm tired of being followed by 20' feet on the interstate and the person has 4 car lengths in front of them at a stop light.
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Part of the practical driving exam is to correctly PARALLEL park on both sides of the street. A second part is to drive on the interstate at highway speed to demonstrate understanding of correct following distance. Then evaluate following/stopping distance at a traffic light. I'm tired of being followed by 20' feet on the interstate and the person has 4 car lengths in front of them at a stop light.
Not sure how that relates to my point . . .
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I read your post and I get it. The rubber band is in place as a personal safety reminder to you or any others who may have access to you safe that the gun is loaded.You would obviously remove the band if the weapon was needed.That would only take a second or two.I see no problem in that.
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I want to wrap one of those rubber bands around my head and snap out of it.
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You can use the rubber band if you get lite strikes too. It pulls the hammer faster.
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Couldn't disagree more. The misguided attempts by legislators and manufacturers in this regard are legion.
That's true, but this thread's about private owners, their personal handguns, and what they might do to keep them safe...it isn't about legislators, legislatures, anti-2A bills, and gun grabbers.

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What California has or hasn't done, does or doesn't do, has nothing to do with this thread or the OP and his rubber bands.

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You can use the rubber band if you get lite strikes too. It pulls the hammer faster.
Yeah, and if you mount a longer firing pin on the hammer of those old Smiths, it'll make 'em shoot faster, too, cause the hammer won't have to travel as far.

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That's true, but this thread's about private owners, their personal handguns, and what they might do to keep them safe...it isn't about legislators, legislatures, anti-2A bills, and gun grabbers.
Thank-you!! I wish there was a way to double, triple or even quadruple Like something! Although the owner of SigForum can be cantankerous, I wholly agree and support his ironfast rule: zero political comments in the handgun section. Not saying SWF should do that - it's just nice to stay away from politics for at least a little while each day! And, although I have made some, let's say, spurious comments in this thread - I liked the overall concept enough to order some red-heart stickies for a couple of my plastic-framed bottom-feeders...

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Most fun thread of the month so far.

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When you run out of ammo, you can shoot your rubber band.
... made me laugh so hard I dropped my tuna fish sandwich on the floor! But it was worth it.
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