The 681 is a no - gun, I put the barrel on both and the 681 now has a round butt
. I haven't got to shoot eather one yet but I feel they will do great. Each is a one of a kind gun just like my 10-32 that I built.
It is a model 10 with a 32mag cylinder and barrel on it, drilled and tap for the scope mount and will drive tacks. Of course these aren't the only ones that I have built. I say anyone that wouldn't shoot that 619 with the IL removed and plugged that has forged parts is just to pickie