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moonclip storage update Version 2.0
I was bored over the weekend and built this.
It's made from poplar and sized to drop right into a standard ammo can.
I think I overbuilt it, everything is mortised then glued and screwed. After studying it I might have been able to just drive the dowels clean through the base board, glue and sand. Then I would only have to drill one hole clean trough, and not have to drill twice and couther sink the bottom of the base or cover all the screws to keep them from scratching anything. The handle would still need the screws, that thing is going to get heavy.
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That's actually pretty cool.
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The clips would stack nicer if you used hexagonal bar stock instead of dowels. Available at
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Good looking work. Its going to get heavy with 420 rounds - hope the handle is good and strong.
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The clips would stack nicer if you used hexagonal bar stock instead of dowels. Available at
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That's a good idea but I'm not much of a metal worker, and all my tools are for wood. I thought about going with square dowels, and plane them down, but that would be too much work. It would have been nice of loews had something between 1/2 inch and 5/8ths
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Yup, I hope so too, the handle was glued up well and then driven down into a mortise with a mallet. I then sunk three 2" screws up from the bottom. The dowels were done the same way with a single screw, but they really are not load bearing, they are just guides.
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Nice job, I like. Good idea.
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That looks like a GREAT idea!!!!
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Thats a GREAT idea! The cherry on top is that it fits in an ammo can. Good job!!
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Looks good . Great idea. Don
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That's a great job and, unashamedly, I'm going to copy it. That stand would go real well on the range bench, too. Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you all for the kind words, the idea just came to me while discussing the limitations of my last storage blocks as seen in this photo.
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Feel free to copy the design. It's not as if there is a great demand for loaded moonclip storage devices. It's what you might call a niche' market, though the idea of making up a half dozen of them for forum members did cross my mind. I would want to make them from nicer wood than poplar.
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Not counting the weight of the moon-clips, wood and screws, a full load would be about 19.3 pounds.
Just about right to keep it from blowing off the shooting bench in a cross-wind.
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Excellent looking work. Better to be over built and last than under and break after a few uses. Nothing wrong with Poplar, you can add a nice finish to it if desired. Dark stain and 6 coats of spar varnish or poly
What's with the Zippo? In case you didn't like it you could torch it?
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hmmmm...karma time??
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Excellent looking work. Better to be over built and last than under and break after a few uses. Nothing wrong with Poplar, you can add a nice finish to it if desired. Dark stain and 6 coats of spar varnish or poly
What's with the Zippo? In case you didn't like it you could torch it?
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Poplar is strong enough, the problem with poplar is it does not take stain evenly and often looks blotchy. It is great for painting but not so good for staining. I just happened to have a good clean piece without any heavy graining laying around so that particular piece stained OK but has zero character. I was also thinking that a varnish or poly finish would chip and was leaning more towards just oiling it for that rough and ready finish. If I used oak it would be a bit harder to work but would stain nicely and then I'm still not sure about a outer finish. That one has nothing more than an oil based stain, no other finish is on it.
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Not counting the weight of the moon-clips, wood and screws, a full load would be about 19.3 pounds.
Just about right to keep it from blowing off the shooting bench in a cross-wind.
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One of the posts would be left empty, that way you have a place to put the fired moonclips for transport home. So, shave a few ounes off that total weight, and then add the weight of the moonclip tool. there is enough space to put your tool there too.
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As I thought. I have just the right piece of birdseye maple for the base and handle left over from another project. Add plain birch dowels and it'll look just dandy! A nice light stain and then tung oiled to death. Nice winter project!!! Thanks, again, for sharing.
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What a good idea! I would like to copy / modify it to carry 42 (appx) full moons. That is what I can fit into a junky plastic bucket I have been using when I practice for IDPA competitions.
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It looks much better than the Cool Whip tubs I use.
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Version 2.0
I turns out I made a slight miscalculation when measuring out the first unit. I sized it to an old ammo can which is about a half inch longer and a quarter of and inch taller. Oops!
I just finished version 2.0 that drops into a standard modern 5.56 can. I also managed to squeeze in 16 dowel rods as compared to the 14 on version 1 for a 480 round capacity. This piece of wood stained very badly so I ended up just painting it flat black. I made a few other small build modifications to speed up construction time.
There is enough room left over for a few moon clip tools between the handle and the stacks.
Next mission is to figure out a setup for the half sized belted 7.62 cans. The holdup right now is devising a sturdy handle that does not take up too much space.
My next mission is to size one for smaller ammo cans
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Do you have "Gun Bearers" to carry your stuff to the range?
Now that it's black is it "Tactical"?
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hey i like that, i got mine all stacked in a 50 cal ammo box, i have over 100 full moon clips and its hard to store them all loaded.
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There will be some Karma coming, I just want to make sure everything is perfect first. They also need some sort of catchy name, Porcupine?? Once I'm satisfied with every last detail then I will karma a couple of them.
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Do you have "Gun Bearers" to carry your stuff to the range?
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No I can't be tacticool because it's not made from plastic. But the flat black seemed like a simple solution for a way to cover scratches and wear, everybody has a can of black spray paint in their garage.
As for the gun bearers, Bwana and Kingozi live in a shack out back.
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Extremely cool design!
Beats the zip lock freezer bags I've been using all to heck.
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMM....... Ammo pr0n!
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Extremely cool design!
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You got that right. I thought I was pretty cool loading up a plastic ammo can with pint bags.
Looks like a neat project. I have no shame either, I'll steal a good idea!
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You got that right. I thought I was pretty cool loading up a plastic ammo can with pint bags.
Looks like a neat project. I have no shame either, I'll steal a good idea!
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My problem is that I'm as short on the tools and skills as I am shame.
I bet if I sprayed the freezer bags black I'd like them more.
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Tactical freezer bags.... you could $5 a pop over at blank.dot.com...
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If you can figure out a way to attach that to your belt I bet some USPSA revolver shooters would be interested.
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wow
thing of beauty and functional too.
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How about an aluminum base with the hex aluminum dowels and handle to fit in the belted can! This is going to get expensive, put me in line for the half size!
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How about countersunk holes at the narrow edges burying Manrope Knots
using rope for a handle? Maybe combine with a leather handle
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I liked your design so well that I copied the 420 round version for myself. Made it on my cnc router. Generating the gcode took longer than it would have to make the rack the old fashioned way but to make the next one will take very little time
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I don't mean to be picky, but I'd think the bullets should go nose down, so when you pick one up it is ready to drop in the cylinder.
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I too swiped the design. Thanks to the OP.
I used a t-handle type cleaning rod for the lift handle. The ones that pivot and slide back down onto the shaft. Used just the handle piece, with a screw up through the base. If I lift the entire contents, it does rock a little, but it still works.
This really minimized the handle space, and was able to get 18 wood rods, for 540 rounds. I do not lift the carrier out much, mostly just grab from the can, but the handle is holding. And I have room for my moon tool on the side.
I usually stack my dowels noses down, with the last being nose up, to indicate what is on that dowel, if mixing bullet shapes. And if you need to gain a little room on the stack, you can pair two clips, nose to nose and nestle the bullet noses between the two to compress the stack a little.
One big word of caution, if you make one of these and fill it up, you can really blow through the ammo FAST, if you do not exercise self control.
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I see a project coming up. I need one of these. Nice idea and nice work!
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I liked your design so well that I copied the 420 round version for myself. Made it on my cnc router. Generating the gcode took longer than it would have to make the rack the old fashioned way but to make the next one will take very little time...
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You should consider offering a few "kits" to the membership here.
I know I would buy one, if the price is right !
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Me too! I would like one that fits the .30 cal can. It's a small market but you could make a couple bucks selling them
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Looks like this necrothread has gained some legs again. I have made a couple racks that fit in the center, removable bag of the Midway Competition range bag...
Nine post with three clips per post gives me 162 rounds of .40 S&W or .45 ACP. And can be used for .38 Super also yielding 216 rounds. One rack is usually sufficient for must club level matches. If it is a large match, I can fit two racks to double my capacity. No fancy handle (lift out the whole center bag), just some 1/2" dowels glued into a base block.
Do you think there would be a market for these types of racks made from aluminum? What would you be willing to pay?
Adios.
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Dang, I need more moon clips...
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Looks like this necrothread has gained some legs again. I have made a couple racks that fit in the center, removable bag of the Midway Competition range bag...
Nine post with three clips per post gives me 162 rounds of .40 S&W or .45 ACP. And can be used for .38 Super also yielding 216 rounds. One rack is usually sufficient for must club level matches. If it is a large match, I can fit two racks to double my capacity. No fancy handle (lift out the whole center bag), just some 1/2" dowels glued into a base block.
Do you think there would be a market for these types of racks made from aluminum? What would you be willing to pay?
Adios.
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I did something similar with wood blocks and 38 special loading blocks to fit the Midway bag section. Not for moon clips, the kind that you use to load speed loaders. Couldn't get near the number of rounds for a given space.
This idea is awesome, hats off to the OP.
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That is a very clever storage idea.
I myself cannot lift over about 200 rounds.
My needs are more for packing a moderate amount, loaded and useable, for use out in the country while motocycling and ATVing.
I discovered 1.50 inch pvc pipe is a snug fit for my loaded EZ moonclips.
They hold 9+ loaded clips per linear foot (54 rds).
I cut a window at the bottom and then glue a white pressure testing cap into the end as a base so the ammo doesn't fall out the bottom.
A straight coupler piece is filed and sanded inside to act as a sleeve that will slide down over the window to close it off.
A piece of 2.00 inch pipe will work, but the coupler is solid plastic and the pipe is foam-core.
I have a snug enough fit for the sleeve so it will stay put w/o a safety.
I have several of these devices in various lengths and groupings.
I mount them w/ dunebuggy tube clamps and also wear them off my shoulder like a shoulder holster.
Having bottom delivery like some kind of vending machine, they are quite handy, especially from the 'holster' because it delivers right at the belt line.
I have some 2ft cargo models in a circular array (w/o the bottom delivery) of six w/ one in the center and and run a cord tied to a crossbar/stick stuck in the bottom most clip in each tube for separate unloading of all 756 clipped rounds, if I ever had that many.
Looking at the OP, I could make a modest rectangular storage array w/ finger slits up the sides of each tube, like poker chip holders.
Hmmm.
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I've been using the large Dillon utility boxes for transporting my ammo loaded on moon clips. The box holds lots of ammo and can be snapped shut so no issues with spills.
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09-13-2015, 11:04 PM
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Brilliant! I'm definitely going to do this.
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11-13-2016, 02:48 PM
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Wanting wooden moon clip holder
I am not wanting to reinvent the wheel. So I am looking for a wooden moon clip holder that fits in an ammo can. The 2.o version, or the plans and I can try to build it myself. Please contact me out of forum. My email is [email protected] subject line moon clip.
BTW I have a CHIAPPA RHINO 40CAL which is the same as S&W 646 6rds
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11-14-2016, 01:00 AM
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I found this tool organizer perfectly fits 18 loaded moon clips for my 929, 610 and 625, and has room for my moon clip checker, some spare moon clips and a few small tools. I load up and take 2 of them to steel shoots, 3 of them to an IPSC match.
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11-14-2016, 02:06 PM
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Great idea with designing it to fit in the ammo can! Now design a harness system that holds the can on your chest for plenty of handy reloads on the range(not totally joking!) a smaller thinner plastic can (30 cal size hooked on a belt or harness probably would work pretty well!
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11-14-2016, 02:17 PM
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Ain't this a great forum to belong to???
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Is anyone building these for sale?
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