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N frame scope mount (no drill)
Does anyone have a line on a clamp on style of scope mount for a N frame smith and wesson revolver? I REALLY don't want to drill and tap it. I don't care if it's an ugly mount ..
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I would rather drill and tap the frame under the rear sight than ruin the bluing by clamping on a no drill mount. Been there done that.
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I would rather drill and tap the frame under the rear sight than ruin the bluing by clamping on a no drill mount. Been there done that.
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Listen to what he said! There is only one no-drill mount I am aware of, the B -Square, and the way it mounts on the gun it causes severe damage to the finish where the front clamp mounts on the gun. Not just cosmetic, it actually causes gouging of the metal.
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On an N Frame, Just about any caliber you shoot the non-drilled & tapped mount will not stand up, and you will have a sheared off sight mount screw. Just face it and have the gun drilled & tapped. A "good" machinist can drill & tap without going completely through the top strap and the holes will be hidden under the rear sight when the scope mount is not in use.
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ALL OF THE ABOVE
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What they said^^^^. Or you'll end up with this:
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One of the best design changes Smth&Wesson ever made was drilling and tapping their revolver frames for Optic bases...
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Thank you for the info
Thank you all for the info and pics .. I thought the clamp on mounts just clamped onto the barrel. I'm a tool and die maker so I just do all of my own machine work on my guns. Looks like I will be drilling and tapping.
Thanks again .. if all of you came up with no good options .. I'm out of options 
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Aimtech. I have used one on a model 64 for years , it's the AMS series. they now have two additional options. ATM1 and ATM2 these require removal of the rear sight and uses the existing holes. These mounts work well and you do not have to drill and tap any new holes. Thats the reason I used the AMS on my model 64.
Check them out aimtech-mounts.com
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Hi Kdiver58:
I tried the following mount for my Model 625:
Revolvers
It was terrible. The mount is made of aluminum, but it throws the balance of the piece off. Also, even using the lightest red dot sight, it made the piece too heavy to use effectively. I still have the mount on my desk somewhere - maybe I'll throw it in the karma box one day.
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Hi Kdiver58:
I tried the following mount for my Model 625:
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It was terrible. The mount is made of aluminum, but it throws the balance of the piece off. Also, even using the lightest red dot sight, it made the piece too heavy to use effectively. I still have the mount on my desk somewhere - maybe I'll throw it in the karma box one day.
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You're right , mounting a scope or red dot sight does nothing for for balance! I did it because of eyesight problems. Mount a red dot or scope or give up pistol shooting. I wasnt ready to stop shooting , enjoy it way too much.
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Leupold makes a high quality drill & tap base for the older Smiths. It takes "turn-in" rings, not Weaver. Be sure to get the base for the older Smiths. They make bases for the new Smiths too. They are not the same. On the older Smiths, the contour where the base meets the top strap is different than on the new Smiths.
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I'm mounting it because
I'm mounting it because I am shooting out to 100 yards standing and have a sick friend who is trying to talk me into shooting out to 200 yards !
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I'm mounting it because I am shooting out to 100 yards standing and have a sick friend who is trying to talk me into shooting out to 200 yards !
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I think we have the same sick friend!! 200yds?!?! I can barely see 100!! I know we'll both be in Lincolnton before alls said and done!!  You can use jaymoore's "crazy scope"!!!
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Why optics? We shot 200 meters in metallic silhouette with "iron " sights.
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For a great mount now that you are going to drill and tap, look at ALLCHIN Mounts. Low to the frame and very well made.
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Because :
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Why optics? We shot 200 meters in metallic silhouette with "iron " sights.
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I already have an iron sights gun ..
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See you in the morning kdiver, vette. Your sick friend too !!
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Why optics? We shot 200 meters in metallic silhouette with "iron " sights.
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It's mostly just so you can annoy yourself MORE shooting the 1/2 sized critters out to 100 yards. I.e, you can shoot entries in both Field Pistol and Field Pistol Any Sight. I don't think it's helpful much in Big Bore (out to 200) due to the classes offered unless you don't mind going up against full custom bolt action pistols and the like. But you can, and I'm apt to do so.
The real reason to use an optic is if you hunt with such. Gives you year round trigger time with what you carry in the woods.
And, as we have found, it will show weaknesses in the system. Many reddots just cause more trouble than iron sights!
Or scopes, if you are so inclined....Want to find out how well one holds up or repeats under high usage? Campaign one in a season or three.
BTW: Never mind the annoying often-elevation-changing windage screw in "iron" S&W rear sights....
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Grrr ..
Another reason to mount a a scope on a gun is so that you can shoot better with that gun . When your existing gun is not keeping up. I out shot my optic gun with my IRON SIGHT gun in the Georgia IHMSA state match today.
BTW ..
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Another reason to mount a a scope on a gun is so that you can shoot better with that gun . When your exiting gun is not keeping up. I out shot my optic gun with my IRON SIGHT gun in the Georgia IHMSA state match today.
BTW .. 75Vette you got second place in Field Pistol Production in A class !
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3rd overall
75Vette you got second place in Field Pistol Production in A class !
This was among Georgia In State competitors
The Entry from Alabama won the class so you were 3rd overall in A class
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75Vette you got second place in Field Pistol Production in A class !
This was among Georgia In State competitors
The Entry from Alabama won the class so you were 3rd overall in A class
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Sweet! I haven't gotten the results from Robert yet. Thanks for the heads up and thanks to you and jaymoore for the spotting/coaching.
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I just aquired a red dot scope and mount that used to be on my 25-2. it has a b-square mount and the guy i got it from said it never damaged the gun ..i had questioned him about the clamps. now i wonder if i should put it on.
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To 75Vette:
Congrats to the 2.in Georgia IHMSA state match !
Did it happen with the "Tax Refund" M 629 (ammo / bullet)?
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Congrats to the 2.in Georgia IHMSA state match !
Did it happen with the "Tax Refund" M 629 (ammo / bullet)?
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As a matter of fact, it was! Thanks!!
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Aimtech
I contacted Aimtech and this was their reply ..
" Thank you for your interest in Aimtech mounts but unfortunately this mount is not in production at this time. "
Drill Drill Drill ..
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I contacted Aimtech and this was their reply ..
" Thank you for your interest in Aimtech mounts but unfortunately this mount is not in production at this time. "
Drill Drill Drill ..
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That's a bummer ! They made them for years , Thanks for the heads up.
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