Why didnt you just start the two threads you mentioned, rather than continue the thread you said you don't like ?

I'm glad of the thread - - - it might have saved me some money & frustration. (But I hope they get their act together. I had wanted to try one of their products on an N-frame.)

I said if I received my T grips, I would inform folks. Well I have them now but I am less than happy with them. Not all of them but 2 or 3 do not fit snug as the older T grips I have.

So my apologies for saying you'll get ripped off. I didn't get ripped off but I wasn't quite happy with that EXTENDED waiting period only to get a less than adequate product.

I am very thankful for this thread, I just wish I would have found it sooner. Well I guess, I live and I learn even if it is unpleasant to say the least.

Well, I wish I'd have read this thread. I ordered a J-frame t-grip in January. When I received it in March, it was poorly finished and fit was so poor it would move on the frame. I returned it for a refund. After several email exchanges and promises to return my purchase price, no refund to date. I did receive a sarcastic remark with his last email to the effect I was not his only customer. It's not the money as much as it is principle.

It's a shame what has happened to this once first class company. It happens all too ofter not only in the gun business but look at your local car dealers. The founder dies, Junior takes over, and runs it into the ground.
THIS is why you see e-bay Tylers going for more than new ones.

I think this is the third, if not the fourth, operator since the original Tyler died. And the whole business was moribund for months (which is what got this thread started) before the current operator stepped up to try to get it going again.

About 6 weeks ago I called and spoke with someone who said they had the trigger shoe I wanted and they would ship it after the check cleared. I mailed a check, they cashed it a month ago, and still no trigger shoe. I have called and emailed for the past week and a half, no responses, no nothing. I have googled Tyler Manufacturing and now regret ever mailing them a check after seeing all the negative posts and the BBB website claims against them. If I ever receive it I will let you know, Joe

Same story here. I've sent back two T-Grip Adapters. Neither of them fit my RB K Frame properly, and I sent the last one back six months ago. My initial order was placed in September 2013. When I returned the last adapter, I included a note telling them if they couldn't send me one that fit properly, I wanted them to refund my money. No response whatsoever to my e-mails. Big surprise. I know I'll never see my money or another grip adapter.

And yet the apologists will still come forth with reasons why this is happening. Enough already!

This thread gets resuscitated more often than Tyler. It's astounding how many people still choose to gamble their $ and place an order, hoping for the best when the evidence shows a negative outcome will be experienced. We have the alternative right here, with a Forum member who not only makes a comparable product, but offers trustworthiness and peace of mind when ordering from him. Search wrangler5 or BK grip adapters, and place an order you will receive without fear of delay or ripoff.

Anyone who patronizes Tyler has no reason to complain or be surprised by getting shafted. Caveat emptor.

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I dont think anyone would order from Tyler if they have seen this post, I wish I had seen it prior to ordering. Who is this member with a comparable product?

Read the full post above:

Search wrangler5 or BK grip adapters, and place an order you will receive without fear of delay or ripoff.

This is true unless you're a little diversified and have other brand revolvers.

I had already ordered before I found this thread. I also had a member want to sell me one for $30 shipped. I waited 20 days to get it but I did get it. Next time I will order a BK. Jim

I also placed an order before reading this thread, but I did get my grips unlike some of you. I placed an order for one square butt K-frame T-grip in the buffed aluminum finish, and a second one for a round butt K-frame. The check was mailed out at the end of April, and was cashed by Tyler on 04/28. The work order included with the packaging was dated 04/30. The two grips finally arrived yesterday, 07/08. During that time I received no order confirmation, estimated ship date, or any other form of communication from Tyler. Both grips fit well, if not perfectly. The finish appears to have been produced by buffing with a wire wheel. The only glaring fit and finish issue I can see is an un-chamfered cut on the bottom of the grip where the rough casting appears to have been cut off from the sprue. It will not cut the hand, but it could use some rounding.

The square butt grip has found a permanent home on my Model 67, but I think the round butt frame is still too thin even with the Tyler. That is more a matter of taste than a flaw in the product though.

Would I buy more? I'm not sure. They're made nicely enough, and the $24/per adapter price of the examples I purchased isn't expensive, but the long wait time and lack of communication is alarming. Picking up a set of grip adapters from BK is likely a better solution if you can deal with the more limited finish options, and if your particular revolver design is supported.

Picture related - my Model 67 with the Tyler square butt grip adapter.

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Like others I unfortunately recently order 2 T grips over 2 months ago. I am relatively new to collecting K frames I intend to shoot, and ran across the T grips, but unfortunately none of the apparent long and troubled history.

My check was cashed in less than a week, but 2 months later I have no product. About a week ago I started trying to contact this company. I should have been suspicious about any online company that only takes personal checks and has no online order system.

Anyway I have left numerous emails and phone messages. No reply to anything.

They are at best incompetent, at worst mail fraud. I intend to file a report with the OK Atty General Consumer Fraud Division for whatever that is worth.

I would suggest anyone wanting this sort of product consider one of the competitors if you really want to receive anything.

I'm sad to hear this...I purchased a T-Grip for a Model 15-4 snubnose several years ago, and received it in a very timely manner. I think that the T-Grip is one of the best ways of maintaining grip index with Magna grips. I did consider getting Magna grips and a T-Grip with a new Model 69 I recently purchased, but went with a Hogue Bantam grip instead. It sounds like that decision may have been the correct one....still sad because I'm "old school" and would prefer the Magnas and T-Grip instead....OMO, YMMV.

I wanted to test their responsiveness before ordering. Several phone calls and emails have gone unanswered for over a month. Indicative of a problem looking for new owners.

I found mine on the forum.

I also ordered a grip adapter from Tyler T Grip over two months ago. Like the quoted poster I have received nothing to date. I did actually get a live person on the phone when I called the company on the morning of June 27th. Talked with a guy named 'David", who instantly responded to my order inquiry, with a litany of excuses that ran the gamut from "lost time on the job due to recent deaths in the family" to "a son who couldn't handle the office" to "manufacturing difficulties". I couldn't get a word in edgewise, but did receive conformation that Tyler had received my order and payment on May 1st but received no estimated time I would receive product. I'm willing to give anyone a chance but now am beginning to doubt the wisdom of dealing with this company. I hope I'm proved wrong, because they put out a good product, when they do produce them. Regards, Gary

Send payment to Tyler Manufacturing, OK at your own risk. They will cash you check immediately, but not send you the product. Also will not answer telephones or reply to emails. Check the BBB and you will see others with similar stories. Learn from my mistake and take a pass.

This thread needs to be locked and just made to be a Sticky that says "buyer beware, don't waste your money"

I respectfully disagree. Current updates on the activities of this company are important and useful, especially to those who have sent their money to this guy.

Around the first of the year, it was taking about 3 months for delivery, depending on the size and finish.

It again falls to me to be contrarian.

Two weeks ago to the day I sent a check in for a #1 T-Grip in flat black to try on my shiny new 649-3.

Delivered today...

Plastic instead of metal, seems a bit flimsy but functions as expected.

As always, YMMV.

I have no connection with Tyler Mfg other than as a semi-satisfied customer.

"Semi"-satisfied only because I like the metal ones better...

In the past several years I have never had a problem getting T-grips from Tyler.

14 pages is LONG ENOUGH for this story!

***GRJ***

Did I read this right? Plastic?

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I'm grateful for this thread. A few months ago I needed a T-Grip and learned about the BK alternative. Shipping was fast and I prefer the double prong attachment. If Tyler started up with free next-day shipping I doubt I'd order from them (Tyler) again.

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Plastic with thin copper strip that clamps under the grips...

Seems to work & fit OK, not great. It's not completely rigid.

I'm fairly certain I'd prefer metal, but this will do the job.

So far, this T-Grip with a set of Jay Scott faux stag grips feels pretty good to my fingers.

I have a set of Magnas to try too...

Range trip this week.

Problem is, that the J Scott grips aren't properly relieved for speedloaders so I'll either be still searching or sanding...

I still want to try a nice set of wood combat grips w/3 finger grooves too.

Life goes on...

I'm questioning this because Tyler Manufacturing doesn't make plastic grip adapters.

Perhaps you're confusing Tyler with BK's grip adapters.

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Thanks for the plug, but I can't recall the last time it took 2 weeks for somebody to receive one of my BK adapters. He also mentioned a "thin copper strip" which I take to mean ONE clip, not the two that BKs have had for a couple of years now.

Could it be that Tyler has switched to plastic, though. I never thought of myself as much of a trend setter, but maybe now . . .

I apologize for any confusion.



On further inspection it's not plastic, but seems to be some sort of cast metal with a thick epoxy(?) coating.

When I tap it with a screwdriver it doesn't ring particularly metallic...

The piece of copper that fits under the grips is a single "U" shaped strip, riveted to the T-Grip with one side a bit longer.

I originally grabbed it from the envelope and stuck it on my revolver without looking at it too closely...

Ok, that's a standard T-grip. I believe they powdercoat them nowadays. It's aluminum under the paint.

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Thanks for the correction...

Stay away these people are incompetent with non existent customer service

I wish they had their stuff together... My T-Grip makes my model 60 no dash great!

Edmo

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Nice looking Model 60 Edmo. Square butt 60's are rare in my part of the country.

Just order from BK in the future. He delivers in days.......

Tyler Manufacturing gets an F from the Better Business Bureau.

Tyler Manufacturing Business Review in Oklahoma City, OK - Central Oklahoma BBB

Thanks...

I bought this one for my Frau back in the 80s.

I call it mine, but she still reminds me it is hers even though she carries her GLOCK 26 all the time.

On edit, you can see the new hammer stud (below the cylinder release) which S&W's repair shop pressed into the frame as a replacement to the original which broke. They did a great job on the repair and it feels like they slicked up the trigger before they shipped it back.

Edmo

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I have no experience with Tyler, but this thread is just too good to let die. So.....................................Bump!

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I ordered one last month and it took just about 2 weeks to deliver! He currently has several model in stock according to the site and that's what I ordered. I figured at the time that I can wait a few months if needed but he did deliver.

Mailed my check on 1-12-15. Check cashed on 1-20-15. Received these size 4 silver beauties on 1-26-15. I have no complains. I guess my order timing was good.

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I have one for a j frame and another for a k. Doubt I will ever need to buy another.

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I've bought a T-Grip and 2 trigger shoes from Tyler Manufacturing with no delays or problems. I recently (December 2014) bought a trigger shoe which had the set screws too close to the front edge of my curved trigger and would not hold. I returned it to Tyler with a check for shipping and had a new tigger shoe back with correctly placed set screws plus extra screws and a wrench for them at no extra charge. I had one phone conversation with whomever answered the phone and who was curtious and helpful. I'm glad there is a source for these items.

They have had my money for over a month now.They never answer the phone or emails.I've had enough and am going to contact the Oklahoma attorney general myself or travel down there or both to get my money refunded in person. Buyer beware they'll take your money but apparently don't care about shipping your items.

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Glock H. I hate to hear that. I was on their website yesterday and saw where someone from the company updated info as of Jan 2015. So I thought maybe they were back on track as I need a couple of J framed T's. I think I'll wait to see how you fare.

THIS IS REALLY A SHAME ! ! ! FOR WHATEVER COMBINATION OF REASONS, THIS LITTLE COMPANY APPEARS TO BE HEADED INTO EXTINCTION. THE IRONIC PART IS THAT THERE STILL IS A STRONG DEMAND FOR THEIR PRODUCT, WHICH IS DRIVING PRICES TO UNBELIEVABLE LEVELS. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SOME SMALL BUSINESS WIZARD COULD COME ALONG AND RECONCILE THESE FORCES. I KNOW ONE THING FOR CERTAIN. IF AND WHEN I EVER SELL MY 2 1/2" NO-DASH 686, CONVERTED TO A 7 SHOOTER BY S&W, WEARING PC MAGNAS AND A TYLER-T ADAPTER, IT AIN'T GONNA BE CHEAP……...…...

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I have to say that I find the continued interest in the grip adapter curious.

It just seems to me that a boot grip type of stock (by whatever name, I refer to the type that fills in the space behind the trigger guard, but which does not extend below the grip frame at the bottom) will do the same job without being wobbly, etc.

I understand why the grip adapter came about, but it seems to me that, apart from nostalgia, there are other products that do the job better than a grip adapter, except in one respect. And that is looks.

It is simply impossible to make a better looking service type revolver, whether the 2 inch, 3 inch, 3 1/2 inch, or 4 inch variety, than a gorgeous revolver that takes you back to a time that most of us oldies wish we could go back to.

Thus, for photography, nostalgia, or just because you want it the way it was "back in the day," that is OK with me.

All of that said, I agree there is a seemingly strong demand for the grip adapter. I have to say that I wish the Tyler company well, as I do BK grips. We have lost too many good companies due to changing needs and wants.

Perhaps we should all just order a set so they can get an influx of cash to help them out a little. Otherwise, we all run a risk of losing another old line company.

Good luck to Tyler and BK.

My preference in grip adapters was always Pachmayr and S&W.

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>>Perhaps we should all just order a set so they can get an influx of cash to help them out a little.<<

Why bother ordering an adapter? Just send the check and you'll get the same result.

Bill

I'm another who likes the grip adapter, especially on the J frame.

I was looking on ebay for N frame stocks & did see several grip adapters listed. Price wasn't what it used to be, but they are available. I'm not a big fan of ebay, but with ebay you do have recourse if the deal is sour.

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If you will look at this thread closely, you will find that if you are in a hurry to get your adaptor from Tyler, don't order one. Pay the jacked up prices on ebay. If you can be patient, really patient.......order one from them and forget about it. It will show up eventually. It may take 2-3 months. Also, don't expect to contact the company. They will rarely answer the phone or emails. They don't have the best business model at all, but shooters do like their product.

I can't say never, but I don't think that there have been many who never received their adaptors. It is apparently a very small operation and I think I remember seeing that they were hit by a tornado a while back. Just remember, if you want a Tyler t-grip at their retail price, patience is a virtue. JMHO.

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