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J Frames jacketed only?
Some of the j frames specify "jacketed only". Why? Because lead bullets walk forward under recoil more easily and can tie up the cylinder or is there more than that?
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That's it.
The AirLite bullet restrictions are there for good reasons, it’s wise to heed the warnings.
The .38 Specials specify +P jacketed only because lead bullets generally aren‘t sturdy enough to prevent the remaining bullets in the cylinder from “pulling“ under recoil and seizing the gun. Some jacketed +P’s can too, so test before you bet your life on it.
The .357’s specify .125Gr Minimum (magnum loads), because lighter (shorter) bullets at magnum pressures can cause the face of the titanium cylinder to erode remarkably fast (flame cutting).
The .44 Specials list .200Gr maximum because heavier bullets tend to pull (same problem as the lead +P .38 Specials).
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Thx, I was just wondering if there was anything more to it I was missing. I've had guys shoot our BUG matches with steel J frames and have Blazer ammo tie up the cylinder because the bullets walked.
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Originally Posted by s&wchad
That's it.
The AirLite bullet restrictions are there for good reasons, it’s wise to heed the warnings.
The .38 Specials specify +P jacketed only because lead bullets generally aren‘t sturdy enough to prevent the remaining bullets in the cylinder from “pulling“ under recoil and seizing the gun. Some jacketed +P’s can too, so test before you bet your life on it.
The .357’s specify .125Gr Minimum (magnum loads), because lighter (shorter) bullets at magnum pressures can cause the face of the titanium cylinder to erode remarkably fast (flame cutting).
The .44 Specials list .200Gr maximum because heavier bullets tend to pull (same problem as the lead +P .38 Specials).
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Way too much to worry about.
A revolver that can't shoot lead bullets?
No, thank you.
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08-19-2011, 09:45 PM
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Hope this doesn't affect +P LHPs in an airweight. FBI load is my favorite for my 642. No problems so far.
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The .44 Specials list .200Gr maximum because heavier bullets tend to pull (same problem as the lead +P .38 Specials).
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Just to make sure I understand you corrrectly, you are saying an N-frame .44 special shouldn't have a bullet heavier than 200? OP was asking about a J-Frame, but since I'm pretty sure they didn't make a J-Frame .44 special I am presuming you are speaking of the N-Frame?
I'm not trying to be sarcastic. I'm seeking information. I've recently purchased a .44 special from here on the forum. Most of the ammo I've seen for .44 special is 240 grain.
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08-19-2011, 10:22 PM
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Just to make sure I understand you corrrectly, you are saying an N-frame .44 special shouldn't have a bullet heavier than 200?
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No, I'm talking about the restrictions for titanium cylinder AirLites. They're marked on the side of the barrel.
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08-20-2011, 01:38 PM
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Standard airweight J frames are fine with lead bullets.
The ultra light revolvers are very effective kinetic bullet pulling devices.
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The .357’s specify .125Gr Minimum (magnum loads), because lighter (shorter) bullets at magnum pressures can cause the face of the titanium cylinder to erode remarkably fast (flame cutting).
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My understanding on the less than 125 gr was the recoil from the lighter loads could jar the bullets loose. It wasn't because of flame cutting.
Anyone else heard this?
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08-20-2011, 08:44 PM
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I would recommend shooting at least one box of whatever you are going to carry.
I would say the problem of bullets pulling is NOT limited to titanium airwieghts. I saw it happen with another make steel cylinder/aluminum frame revolver at the range. A lady was shooting and it kept locking up, finally the range officer figured out it was the bullets pulling out. I can't remember the make, but it happened.
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08-20-2011, 09:12 PM
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Hope this doesn't affect +P LHPs in an airweight. FBI load is my favorite for my 642. No problems so far.
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It only applies to +P lead bullets fired in airlite (Not airweight) series revolvers.
I have fired many standard velocity lead through my airlight, and probably an equal amount of jacketed + through it and never had a problem.
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My understanding on the less than 125 gr was the recoil from the lighter loads could jar the bullets loose. It wasn't because of flame cutting.
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