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Old 09-23-2011, 10:46 AM
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Bought this one off Smith&Winchester.
I think he was conservative on the description.
It locks up tight, no dings or wear marks,turn line is light, recoil shield is un-marked & the bore and Cylinders are bright and shiny.
I think it is a keep. Now it is off to have it worked up to shoot .327mags.
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Old 09-23-2011, 10:52 AM
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Nice gun. My 6" 16-4 is at Hamilton Bowen's for two reasons. One is to have the .32 Magnum cylinder re-chambered to .327 Federal Magnum, and I am also having an extra cylinder made to shoot .32 S&W Long exclusively. I tried shooting the .32 Long in the .32 Mag cylinder, but they left too much carbon in the chambers and I had a terrible time cleaning them out so .32 Mags would chamber.
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That is good information.
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I would think you are referring to Smith and Wesson?? Did yours come with the box and paperwork? I will be sending mine in for the conversion as well, hardest decision is whether to send the 4 or 6 inch barrel for the change??
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Just a question guys. I realize the chambers can be bored to accept the 327FEDMAG, but the full-blown Federal MAG generates pressures up around 40,000. I would expect a gun designed out-of-the-box to fire the 32MAG is certainly strong enough to handle it. I am no metallurgist, but I also suppose one would need to be sure the cylinder was capable of handling these pressures.

I guess my point is that taking that old Rossi (or whatever) 32-Long out and having it bored might not be a good idea. We all know there may be somebody out there that could get an idea you could do that.
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Good question, I am going with the thought that the K frame cylinder has lot of space between the cylinders holes. Plus I don't think Bowen/Harton/ other gunsmiths would be doing it if it was not safe.
Now on the j frame, it has two problems, the 32 mag cylinder is not long enough, even if you bored it straight through, the bullet would be sticking out the front. S&W made the cylinder longer and stretched the frame to allow the 327 mag to fit in the model 632's.
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Peyton
Appreciate the heads-up. The member is Smith&Winchester---I should have said it better.

Most of what I read is very good about the conversion process. I don't think those pressures to be excessive for the weapon in question.
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I would think you are referring to Smith and Wesson?? Did yours come with the box and paperwork? I will be sending mine in for the conversion as well, hardest decision is whether to send the 4 or 6 inch barrel for the change??
As they say, "get both", or in this case "do both".

I have a 4" also, and will mor than likely have that cylinder re-chambered also.

As to the pressure of the .327 Mag, the Model 16-4 is very capable of handling them. In my opinion, Hamilton Bowen would not re-chamber them if he was not certain the gun could handle the round capably.
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You'll love the 16-4 so much, you'll want to get the set. Top to bottom; 17-6, 16-4 and 14-5.



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That is a fine collection there!!
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Just a newbie posting here....I have a still NIB 6" 16-4 that I always intended to shoot but never got around to doing....

I'll do my "part" to keep it unaltered....I know everyone is entitled to do as he/she wishes but I'm curious as to why rechambering a scarce gun seems so popular....unless one has two or more of this model....

Then again, maybe I'm all wet as to the scarcity of the Model 16-4? Or the advantage of the .327 vs. the .32 H&R magnum....I suppose a new .327 cylinder would be very expensive?

In any event the above is not meant to be a criticism of any kind.....just my $.02.....
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WinchesterBob, you questions are hitting the nail right on the head!! In my case I have an addiction to 32 magnums and have two shooter grade 16-4's that I want to do this conversion on. Bowen has replacement cylinders so you do not change the original. That cost is almost $500.00 versus $100.00 for him to change the existing cylinder.
Why I am going to convert mine is that I can't hold my breath waiting for S&W to make a K frame 327!!!!
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Civil1977- that is a very nice collection sir
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Did I mention "the triplets"?????? Oh you can guess the model 16-4's are great!!
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I believe the cylinders of the 16-4's are heat treated the same as the .357's and .44Mag's. Opening up the chamber to take 327's shouldn't cause any problem.
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Great looking Smith's. Thanks for the pics.
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