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Old 01-12-2019, 02:58 PM
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Bullets hitting the comp are a gun design problem and that’s what this thread is about.



If you shot lead through a comp you’ll have to clean it out eventually. Not really a big deal in my book.
I have a 627 V-comp and it has thousands of rounds in it. I purchased it new. I shoot it with the comp.
Using the wrong ammo will damage the comp and send pieces flying to the shooter or bystander.
Why haven't I had a problem with mine? Did I get the better design?

ETA. I just noticed this is an older -ish thread. And that the picture jcoers showed was a loose comp cap! This is an extremely dangerous condition while shooting. I have a 929 that right at 180 rounds the cap would loosen so I now shoot it minus the cap. Besides on a 9mm N frame- you dont lose much compensation because of the weight of the firearm. But, if the comp cap is run loose, and you keep shooting bullets through it(any kind of bullets) then all bets are off and the comp will explode! But, this is not a design flaw. Merely operator error. You have to check to see those caps are on tight! If not.....


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Old 01-12-2019, 03:40 PM
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Using the wrong ammo will damage the comp and send pieces flying to the shooter or bystander.
Shooting the comp will damage the comp and could send pieces flying regardless of ammo used. Using the “wrong” ammo won’t send pieces flying. The bullet doesn’t know it’s going through the comp and decide to disintegrate and send pieces flying because a comp is attached. If your bullets are falling apart the comp is not the problem and you need to figure out what you are doing wrong regardless of the gun being used.

I’ve shot thousands of rounds through my 929 with the cap attached. A little loctite has kept it in place just fine. My 460 only has a couple hundred rounds through it but they have all been with the comp you are supposed to use with jacketed bullets. 90% of my loads have been powder coated lead and I have not had any issues.
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Shooting the comp will damage the comp and could send pieces flying regardless of ammo used. Using the “wrong” ammo won’t send pieces flying. The bullet doesn’t know it’s going through the comp and decide to disintegrate and send pieces flying because a comp is attached. If your bullets are falling apart the comp is not the problem and you need to figure out what you are doing wrong regardless of the gun being used.



I’ve shot thousands of rounds through my 929 with the cap attached. A little loctite has kept it in place just fine. My 460 only has a couple hundred rounds through it but they have all been with the comp you are supposed to use with jacketed bullets. 90% of my loads have been powder coated lead and I have not had any issues.
There are manufacturers that dont recommend their ammo to be used for compensated or ported guns. For further info and maybe a clearer explanation, you can contact the manufacturer when in doubt. I've outlined in white the warnings they sometimes have.
I've run PC bullets too. They're ok. Just a little messy sometimes.

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Old 01-12-2019, 06:01 PM
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How old is that package? I couldn’t find anything on Speers website with a similar warning.

There’s a big difference between a compensator and a ported barrel. I could see the potential for a ported barrel to shave off small pieces, however there is no way this will hurt the barrel or porting. It might send small pieces of copper plating flying out but wearing eye protection will be sufficient protection.

If a bullet is exiting the barrel and hitting the compensator it’s because the compensator isn’t appropriately attached.
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I purchased those rounds from Midway usa last year and got curious about their warnings also. I didnt know. It took me to take the time and call their customer service and speak to a tech, who called me back from a Wisconsin phone # to tell me not to use them on ported or comp'd gun. It's true.
Pieces flying off and hitting the shooter or bystander were his words ; not mine. Not safe in ported or compensated guns were his warnings as well as the box.
I do realize that the 50 round boxes of ammo do not have these warnings! People should ask questions about the ammo they are shooting when in doubt.
I've been hit in the face by shooters next to me or sometimes shooting revolvers for years! Doesn't happen all the time, but I've bled from my neck, cheek hands by bullet fragments.
I've had bullet shavings smear off like paper. So the Speer/CCI warnings seem likely to me.

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The thread is about damage to a comp. There is no way those/any bullets are going to damage a comp.
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The thread is about damage to a comp. There is no way those/any bullets are going to damage a comp.
You are joking right? Or your kidding! Ok. I can take a joke like the rest! Ha ha.
I've shown you a warning where a manufacturer warns about using their ammo in comps. I was responding to a post # 36? Where the post used speer magnums. A brand I know you shouldn't use with a comp. Bullet fragments hitting the comp from the inside break the comp!
But I'm positive you are kidding right?

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The bullet is not hitting the comp. the warning does not say the bullet is hitting the comp and causing damage. If anything is happening it’s tiny shards of copper plating hitting the comp and being redirected backwards. The tiny shards of copper plating aren’t going to damage the comp!
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There’s no way manufacturers are going to sell bullets that will damage the guns they are chambered for. Even with the warning it just wouldn’t happen.

If what you are claiming was an actual problem there would be thousands of threads out there on the subject. In actuality there are a handful of threads on the subject and for the most part they are all people asking about the warning as opposed to any actual damage caused by these bullets that somehow self destruct upon exiting the firearm.
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