All,

Just out of curiosity I was wondering what everyone thought about revolvers chambered in Auto calibers, like .45 ACP, 10MM, .40 S&W, and 9MM. For the most part, I look at them as novelties with a niche with the exception of the 940 9MM S&W, which is probably going to earn a spot in the rotation of my carry guns.

I have always been fascinated by these guns from a historical perspective and commercial perspective. I have in my collection, a S&W 1917 in .45 ACP, a 610 Pre-lock S&W in 10MM/.40 S&W, and I recently picked up a S&W 940 in 9MM and I've had the Taurus 905 in 9MM. It seems that most of the manufacturers have toyed around with the 9MM in a revolver at some time or another. S&W with the 940 and 547 (which I also want at some point in the future), Ruger with the SP101, and Security Six, Charter with the 9MM Federal, and Taurus with its on and off availability of the 905. The 9MM revolver in particular seems to be popular, but it never taken off commercially even though the ballistics out of a J-Frame seem to be a nice fit for the cartridge.

The S&W 940 was picked up with the original box and 5 moonclips. I took it to the range and I am very pleased with this gun. It's easier to shoot than .357 Magnum out of my 640, and about as stout to shoot as 38 SPL +P. Muzzle flash is MUCH lesser, and the gun is accurate, easy to shoot (did I mention that already, yup I did), and ammunition is easily available all over the place. Much more so than is typical for .38 SPL nowadays and typically cheaper with a better bullet selection. I carry it with the Hornady 115 Grain XTP bullets and it handles nicely. This will probably replace my 640 as my main Back Up Gun.

The Tarusu 905 was a lemon, I found metal shavings in the action that were causing some binding. I cleaned it out and then more shavings were found. I sent it off to Taurus for repair and it came back "fixed" but since I had lost confidence in the gun I promptly sold it. I bought it because at the time it was the only available 9MM Revolver still in production. It's gone now.

The S&W 610 is a recent acquisition as well. I had the 4 inch variant with the lock, but did a straight up swap for a 6.5 inch barreled pre-lock variant. I see no real purpose for this gun, as a Glock 20 or even my 1076 serve the 10MM role better as they are smaller and both have more capacity for the weight (which is saying something for the 1076) However, shooting .40 S&W out of this gun is simply a giggle-getter, while 10MM full bore loads are handled with authority. This gun, while kind of a novelty, simply brings a smile to my face and that's enough to satisfy the "why" I have this gun. I have no intention of ever carrying this gun. It's definitely one in the collection where folks go, "HUH?"And as such, is simply a cool gun to have and I'm glad to have it considering S&W's "on again off again" affair with the 10MM Revolver. The 610 in particular can't seem to find traction. In its first run, it didn't even make the S&W catalog so it's production run was short. They re-introduced it a few years ago, it didn't really do so well as it was recently dropped from production again, and I've also learned that the 310 Nightguard was just dropped.

The S&W Model 1917 is my oldest auto caliber chambered revolver. It's a joy to shoot and it scratches that "C&R" itch that I often have. This gun was created as a stopgap measure to outfit troops in WWI because Colt 1911s couldn't be made fast enough. They were brought out in WWII as well for the same problems. Thus, these guns often show an inordinate amount of use. I shoot it sparingly since it's an older gun. I actually like .45 Auto Rim for this revolver as I don't need a moonclip for extraction. Felt recoil on this is like opening a bottle of champagne, it even sounds the same when shot. The light barrel is also something nice, I'm not sure if I like the full underlug that's so common ever since the 686. However, I might pick up a 625 at some point to join this revolver as it's simply a damn cool gun to have.

This is kind of a niche market at best, but it's been one that I have enjoyed getting into. Now, if I can find a 646 chambered in .40 S&W, I'll be a really happy camper.

Anyway, here's some eye candy and please let me know what you think of the whole niche market of auto-calibers in a Revolver. From top to Bottom: S&W 1917, S&W 610, and S&W 940. These are my auto chambered revolvers. The 940 is the only one I see with any kind of practical applications. The rest are fun to shoot and serve as something neat that I simply wanted.

I shoot a 686 and 627 in 38 Super and a 625 in 45 ACP. Great guns for the pistol games with speedy mooncliped reloads.

I've owned a bunch of .45 acp N frames. Always end up selling them. One of these days I may send off a 642 to TK and have it set up for 9mm.

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I like them. I have a chopped 1917 Brazilian, an Austin Behlert custom 25-2 snubby, a 646, and a custom 9mm 360J.

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I took a brake from shooting in the late 80's. I returned to shooting 3yrs. ago. I did some reading to see what I had missed out on during that time (alot ). Anyway, I decided to consolidate my purchases around the 9mm round. I only need a few good guns. So far I have spent around $3000 for guns and ammo. Mostly ammo. 9mm, 22LR and 7.62X39. Everybody should have a good revolver in their collection. The 547 3" is my choice. Kel-Tec's sub2000 S&W 9mm carbine and S&W59 round out my S&W group. All are good guns. I want to add one more 9mm revolver. I'm holding out to see who comes up with the next best thing.

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WC145,

That 646 simply looks awesome!
How long have you had it and how did you acquire it?

Who did the work on your 360?

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Thanks. I bought the 646 at the Bangor gun show a 2 or 3 years ago, got a very good deal on it. The Altalmont grips are from my L-Comp, I have the original S&W/Hogue grips in the box.


Pinnacle High Performance Guns did the caliber conversion and also did an action job, 1/2 bobbed the hammer, polished and radiused the trigger, chamfered the forcing cone, and replaced the front sight with the fiber optic. I had Robar coat the cylinder with NP3.

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I just don't agree that revolvers chambered in .45ACP are novelty items or niche guns. The Models 25 and 625 in all of their iterations have been wildly popular sellers for Smith for decades, and for good reason: .45ACP has turned out to be a superb revolver round and the 25/625 series has been a wonderful platform for these rounds. My 625JM is remarkably accurate with about as much recoil as a mid-sized revolver chambered in .38 special. Moon clips, which sound like a potential problem, turn out to be an asset when one learns how to use them properly. Anyone who's watched one of those Jerry Miculek video clips will know that it's possible to reload a 625 using moonclips faster than one could ever reload a revolver with speedloaders or faster even than changing magazines in a semiauto.

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Well, here's another perspective to consider.

While the calibers you list were conceived for, and have certainly found greater usage in semiautos than revolvers, I actually look at it another way. I think these calibers are actually MORE SUITED for revolver use than the "traditional" revolver calibers. Why? Because they enable the easy usage of moon clips, which in my thinking are the ultimate "built-in speedloaders".

I personally prefer revolvers to semiautos for a number of reasons, including but not limited to ease of recovering my brass for reloading. It gets tiring searching around for brass ejected every which way by a semiauto, while the moon clips are a nice balance between capacity, speed of reload, and easy recovery of brass.

About the only situation I can think of that I'd actually prefer shooting these calibers in a semiauto would be a combat situation where someone else was buying the ammo, I wasn't concerned with saving my brass for reloading, and I needed additional capacity and even faster reloading than moon clips provide. Luckily, I don't find myself in that situation.

Of the calibers you mention, by far my favorite is the .45ACP. I've toyed with the idea of buying a 610 in .40/10mm, but in addition to the premium price they're bringing these days, another reason I talked myself out of it is that if I'm going to be carrying an N-frame, and it only holds six rounds, I may as well stick with .45ACP!

Lou

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I’m pretty sure the 625-3 here is the most fried gun I own, and I bought it well used. It is very plesent to shoot and when shot at things that reflect the power / energy transfer like bowling pis it makes me smile even more. I would stake my life on this gun for sure.


This 625-10 is a light little powerhouse with a really nice trigger but, the recoil is surprising for a mild mannered cartridge. It gets carried much more than it gets shot.



This 25 is the best bowling pin revolver I have ever had. Many people think the ported 45 is not a help but I disagree. It is fast to recover and if you screw up and miss it reloads quick.


The 610 is a nice shooter but seems a bit to heavy for the way I like to shoot.


The other moon clipped gun I have is the 8 shot 627. Not an auto round so the reloads are slower but the feel and balance of this gun is right on for a fighting revolver.

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Warren

Unless you are taking the position that competition and self defense are not any kind of practical applications, I see no reason for this statement.

The 625 .45 ACP is the king of USPSA revolver and IDPA/ESR, not to mention ICORE and other pistol competitions. I watched Mr Miculek in a match shoot-off using a 625 against a 1911 champion, and Mr Miculek won!

I have a 646 which I used with success in IDPA before the 2005 rule change gave advantage to the 625, and I prefer it in ICORE.

Last match, several Army shooters were interested in the old dude with the antique gun. On a particularly challenging "penalty magnet" stage, I heard one of them remark as I shot clean and showed clear, "Well, so much for revolvers being slow."

Having shot revolvers since I was issued a M15 in the USAF, I prefer a clip revolver as a house gun.

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My favorite revolvers are all chambered for semi-auto rounds.

I would like the 610 but that's cause it fires 10 and 40.
My last semi auto was a FNP40 so I kinda miss the round.

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I have a couple 625's, a model 1917 and a 610. I really want a 547 and 646 now. I also got an extra cylinder for my 627 that I am going to have converted to 9 mm when I get around to it.

Amen there Stevieboy! The IMHO, only novelty about revos that shoot rimmless cartridges is those who view them as novelties. The 45ACP, 40 S&W in 'clipped revolvers can compete against many who shoot the 1911's in IDPA and other competitions. They are fast, accurate and a real pleasure to run with. It is one thing to collect them, but another to rely on them. I am a revolver guy!

IMO S&W is missing the boat a bit in regards to semi auto caliber revolvers. I have a 6 1/2 inch 610 and a 625 JM and have found moon clips revolvers to be the best thing since sliced bread. Moon clips are cheap so I can load up a bunch of them before heading to the range and spend most of my time shooting. Then I takes the clips home with the casings in place, so I don't ever lose a fired casing.

Then there is the matter of cost. If you don't reload, 45 ACP costs the same or a bit less than 38 spl. So, you get a bigger bang for your dollar and a better caliber for Defense. I also purchased my 610 specifically due to the cost of ammo, at one point during the "ammo droubt" the 40 S&W cost me 6 dollars a box less than 38 spl. and it's still 4 bucks a box cheaper in my area. If S&W offered a 9mm specific version of the 686 I'd have at least one in my collection and probably two.

Fact is that rimless centerfire ammo is the most popular and as a consequence it's also much less expensive than rimmed ammo. If S&W were to offer more revolvers in the semi auto calibers and keep them in the catalog I believe that in time they'll start drawing new shooters into the revolver fold. While I do enjoy shooting my semi's, I do a lot more shooting with my revolvers because I enjoy them more and you can't beat the trigger control they teach you.

A couple of S&W 547s.


S&W 940.


And a pair of Ruger Spped Sixes in 9mm.

Since I started shooting the 1911 in 45 ACP in 1967 I have always been a 45 ACP kind of guy. I became a 44 Mag kind of guy in 1970. So soon after I got a S&W Mod 25 in 45 ACP.

I used it for Bullseye Matches and later as a work gun.

I think a 45 ACP S&W revolver is the best BIG revolver for a person if they do not need the power of a 44 Mag.

A coupe of years ago I got a 325 Night guard, from a buddy.

It runs 100%, and since I am familar with reloading with full moon clips it has become one of my favorites. I keep it under my pillow EVERY NIGHT.
I cannot give it any higher a recomendation than that.

Even as light as it is, I find it most controlable with 230gr 45 ACP as well as +P 185gr 45 ACP.

I love my 610...quite possibly the favorite of the guns I own. I love that I can shoot my 40 S&W reloads out of it and the trigger is awesome. Really fun to shoot.

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For me personally a 9mm revolver would be neat as a range toy, but I am solidly a .38 - .357 guy and the vast majority of my many revolvers are .38's or .357's.

I have a couple of 625"s and a 646, I think they are great.

I've got several 610's, a 625, a 25 in 45 ACP, and a 1917. I'm hooked. The 610's are routinely the best shooting Smiths I own, and the 625 is another favorite. Get a 625 - you won't regret it.

Lou,

Interesting perspective. I've just always seen these kind of revolvers as a niche, with them being curiosities at best.

I shot .38's and .357's for over 10 years before I bought my first model 625 in .45 ACP. I used to think of these revolvers the same way.....mostly as curiosities......until I bought one and started shooting it. Then they became my favorites!

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Autos have a huge edge over revolvers when it comes to combat use, they have a somewhat smaller but growing edge for self defense use. I say this about self defense due to the increasing chances of having to defend yourself against more than one attacker. While the brain knows this the heart sometimes longs for a wheel gun, if you had to defend yourself with a revolver and required a reload or two or three the answer for me would be something moon clipped. Some seem to have an instinctive dislike for moon clips I love them. I consider them the perfect feed device for revolvers as long as Ranch Products makes them. Perfect feed device because they they keep your ammo organized, make for speedy reloads and capture your spent brass so you don't lose it. The reason I like Ranch Products is because they produce a good quality serviceable product at a very reasonable price. Others might make a "better" clip but being able to clip up hundreds of rounds without breaking the bank is a super big plus and no one else allows you to do this. As a company they deserve a big thank you for doing this. IMO S&W is missing the boat big time when it comes to this, when I become president of S&W expect to see 5,6,7 and 8 round 9 mm's, 6,7 and 8 round .40 S&W's, and 6 and 7 round 10 mm's in L and N frame. Oh and no locks and a return to forged parts. Vote for me :-).

I am waiting for my 586 to come back from pinnicle--it will shoot the 9x23 & and if you have never shot a 9x23 you are missing out on a great round & fine shooter.
Blessings

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And yet, for nearly as long as there have been auto cartridges, there have been revolvers chambered for them. The Model 1917 is a great example. It was a successful service weapon, and a great way to bridge a gap for an organization to have different capapbilities for the same cartridge. There is a huge following for .45 ACP revolvers, just read some of the posts here. I own a Model 1917, and as old as it is, with those moon clips it has much more value to me as a modern shooter than a collectors piece. It's a fantastic innovation, and only ninety four years old. I might add that it has not lacked in sales in all that time, and that includes all the .45 ACP revolver models S&W has produced to date.

So why aren't there more caliber/cartridges available? One must wonder a little. Most speedloader users will pretty well tell you how superior the moon clip is to a non-moon clip user; look how many serious shooters like to convert rimmed cartridges to moon clip usage.

I am still amazed at the fact that 9mm is not more prevalent in the revolver world. I have a strong suspicion that it has much more to do with marketing and deal making than anything. 9mm autos are a bit on the wane now due to the popularity of .40 S&W/.357 SIG, and by making a revolver in those two caliber/cartrdges, the undercutting of sales for those models could occur. There seem to be a lot of just S&W fans out there that would like to see 940s and 547s back on the shelves. 9mm just makes sense, it's a great bridge gapper between .38 Spl and .357 Magnum. But I suspect that's the problem; 9mm would almost make .38 Spl redundant, and then K-frames might be a troubled issue; there are a lot of traditionalists out there that would have fit if .38 K-frames suffered or were discontinued. It's a shame, because 9mm is perfectly suited for the K-frame, and can give that .38 +P and even +P+ a real viable alternative. Personally, I think it would re-vitalize K-Frame sales since S&W won't re-issue .357 K-frames. The time is ripe for a new model 547. I wouldn't even complain about the IL on it.

Just a thought.

I love my 547 9mm. I have never tried a moonclip gun, but I would like to at some point. A model 25 in .45 ACP would be very nice. Maybe a 940 and a 610 too?

I'm quite partial to my 610-2 in 10mm



as well as my 25-14



and 22-4



which are both chambered in 45 ACP.

Well I guess I am a moon clip kinda guy. I have owned Webleys converted to 45acp. I have owned a couple 1917's, two or three 25's, and a couple 625's. I currently am shooting a 625 in the 3" version. It has been to Ron for his Power Custom Combat work.

I have a 610 No Dash that I bought when they first came on the market. It was a factory 5". I dropped it off with Ron Power and had his Power Custom Combat work done to it, as well as having it shortened off the back to 4" like it should have been in the first place in my opinion.

I also have a 310 Nightguard that I just bought today. I am sure it will be a favorite carry gun. I see a Lobo Enhanced Pancake holster in it's Christmas stocking.

I had an SP101 in 9mm at one time. I now wish I still had it.

I also have a 686 Power Custom Combat that Clark converted to take moon clips many years ago. It is still chambered in 38/357.

I also shoot my 64 using Safariland Comp III speedloaders. I am not a total moon clip user.

As was said numerous times above, it is nice getting home with all your brass at the end of the day. Even at matches where you would normally have to leave your brass on the ground, you still pick it up with your moon clips.

Bob

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I agree with most of what you said. I have a 22-4,TRR 45acp, and shoot it on occasion at our local USPSA type matches. I just acquired a 627-5, which doesn't meet the semi auto caliber round format but I haven't had the opportunity to shoot it in a match. Great guns and quick to reload but for speed I find my 1911's much much faster to reload, but I ain't Jerry Miculek.

On the contrary, I see them as eminently usable and practicle revolvers, particularly those chambered for the 45 ACP cartridge. They will serve as target, competition or defensive revolvers depending on the model, the ammunition used and the application and intentions of the owner. Hardly novelties, which is probably why I have 5 of them.

Just sayin',
Dave

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I got my 625-4 5" a few years back, and I just knew that I was going to love it. Well.....I didn't, not the moonclips anyway. Thought about selling it for a good while. Then I learned of this glorious little round called the .45 auto rim. Hallelujah!!!! I am not a moonclip fan, but I'll take all the .45 auto rim that I can find!! Here is what eats 'em.....


625-4 .45 acp/ar




Springfield Armory 200 year Commemorative .45 acp/ar (basically a 625-4 Mountain Gun)




model of 1917 .45 acp/ar

I thought the same thing until I shot my three inch 625. Now it has joined the ranks of several of my "from my cold dead hands" guns and will be staying that way.

It may have to be something to feel in the hand before it really hits you how great they are.

Ok - no reflection on you at all, but I just had to say: since when has S&W given a rat's #$% about K frames? When was the last time they built a K frame with anything but a 4" barrel (referring to the current 64, 67 & 'bogus' 10)?

Sidenote: My 3" 10-4 is probably my favorite gun to shoot. I'd buy the 9mm version in a nanosecond if such a thing existed.

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I have only one revolver chambered for a rimless pistol cartridge, other than a couple of M1917s, a Model 25 and a Model 625. As a general rule I don't like them, because of the need to work around the extraction issues.

However, with a single action revolver, there is no extraction problem, as the ejector pokes out any kind of a case. I do have this Ruger old model Blackhawk, chambered for .357/.38 special, with a factory-fitted cylinder for the 9mm Parabellum cartridge. It allows more economical practice with the cheaper 9mm ammo, and I can get ammo for it practically anywhere in the world. I favor the old "4 click" actions not only because of nostalgia, but because I think they operate more smoothly. Of course, this type is always carried hammer down on an empty chamber when loaded.

This particular gun was manufactured in 1970. I have the original box, papers, grips and red felt pouch and box for the extra cylinder.

John

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Three Inch (Hogue Bantams for comfort).



Four Inch

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Not Smiths but I like the versitility of the 9mm & 45 acp in my Blackhawks.

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Sweet!
Looks like the auto-chambered revolvers aren't as much of a niche as I'd thought. Especially in .45ACP. I don't typically carry a revolver as they tend to be bulky for their size and capacity. I'm kind of a diehard semi-auto carry guy. I tend to carry a revolver solely for a BUG and then it's either my 640 or 940 revolver.

However, there's something about these revolvers that's just plain neat, especially when I can find an affordable one chambered in a cartridge that I already carry: 9MM, .40 S&W or 10MM, I tend to purchase it. The 310 Nightguard might be my next purchase in this category (it's been discontinued damnit). Unless I come across a 625. I already have the S&W 1917 in .45ACP so that niche in particular doesn't need anything further. Still, with the 625 I won't worry about an 80-90 year old part failing and then having to replace it.
Some other neat revolvers I want: S&W 547, S&W 646, and possibly an SP101 in 9MM.

Thanks again!

I have really liked the 45 acp for quite a while but really never cared for the revolvers. slow to reload, only 6 in the gun... just not my cup of tea... after I grew up, I realized that the 45 was probably the best "house gun" cartridge that could be had. And if I had trouble with my hands (old guy getting older) I might not be able to work the action of the 1911's and I could still use the 45 auto. Now if I could find a 9mm in a revolver?? (my current answer is ruger lc9) so I don't want one. I have the j frame in 38 so I'm OK there. I can down load my 686 so I don't rupture my ear drums inside but I have 44 special and 44 mag (downloaded) so I can have something as a big bore that keeps me safe.
So, do I need one; No... BUT IF I did, it would be a Great answer!!

Long story cut short... Now I think the 45 acp revolver fills a need. Learning is a good thing. Finally, I learned !!!

Good point and even better observation. I love the K-frames, most particularly the Model 10s. Bring back the 547, I say.

I've been wanting a 4-inch 610 for several years but can't justify that heavy lugged barrel. Wish S&W would build one in Mountain Revolver configuration. Of course, it would have to have a hammer mounted firing pin and that stupid hole on the side filled in too. It's hopeless I guess.

All,
Since I started this post, I wanted to pass along some more of the auto-chambered revolvers that I have picked up:

Smith and Wesson Governor:


Smith and Wesson Governor with Hogue Glow in the Dark "Zombie" Grips:


Taurus M380 .380 ACP Revolver:


Taurus M380 .380 ACP Revolver as compared to a S&W 442:


Ruger SP101 in 9MM:


For the S&W Governor, this gun is simply a joy to shoot .45 ACP out of. I haven't even really bothered with anything beyond a cylinder full of 45 Colt. I haven't even tried shotshells and don't really care about them in this gun. Accuracy with this is surprisingly "on" with the .45 ACP even with the long *** cylinder.

For the Taurus M380 revolver. It's a pretty neat concept since it's a bit shorter than the S&W 442. The trigger is a little tough, since it's DAO but that's to be expected with anything Taurus. Felt recoil is nothing, it being less than the .38 SPL. I don't think this design is going to go anywhere though.

The Ruger SP101 in 9MM is a fun gun to shoot and I think it has the best moonclips for the guns requiring it. For the record, these same moonclips work just fine with the S&W 940.

I like my 625-8 in particular because it is one of the more accurate revolvers I've ever owned. It can be conveniently loaded with loose 45 ACP rounds or even better 45AR, which can easily be loaded up to duplicate the classic old west 45 Colt load. No slouch that round. But does it offer any advantage over more traditional rimmed rounds? Not so much, unless one is packing for an extended journey and needs to carry more ammo in the same space, or anticipates an availability issue where the specific chambering is an asset (say a sudden zombie uprising, where 45 Colt may be hard to find in sufficient quantity but 45 auto is readily available).

But in terms of practicality, I don't really like moonclips. They are too bulky to carry conveniently compared to a flat magazine that holds more rounds, thus are IMHO impractical. Then to load/unload them takes a special tool and a lot of extra effort. And for that matter, the revolvers themselves are bulkier than a comparable automatic and rarely offer any particular performance advantage over an autopistol chambered in the same cartridge, especially considering that many conventional rimmed cartridges chambered in them easily match or exceed their performance.

One revolver does offer a specific advantage for me and that is a pair of Ruger Vaqueros chambered in 38-40 with spare cylinders in 40 S&W. They are the most accurate 40S&W *anything* I've ever shot, and loading 40 is far easier than 38-40. They have proven to be excellent guns for CAS using 40S&W loaded with lead bullets. Of course, the loaded rounds do tend to drop straight through your gun belt's cartridge loops, so a pouch works better for carrying spare ammo...

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I have a Colt Model 1917 and a Model 25-2, so obviously I think revolvers chambered in .45 ACP make sense. However, I can't imagine why you would want to take a perfectly good revolver and chamber it in 9mm Luger. Get a nice .22LR revolver if you want great accuracy and super cheap feeding. Otherwise, I'll take .357 Magnum any day.

I must admit that a 9x23 Winchester revolver is an interesting idea though. That's my preferred round for a 1911. Higher capacity, recoil easier to manage, and ballistics just like .357 Magnum.

9x23


9x19




45 acp

Add me to the list of 45ACP in a revolver fans:


This is a recent limited run of 45ACP new Vaquero Birdshead revolvers.....
accurate, fun, and yes....I do carry it!

Well then, let me give your imagination a boost and using the time old tradition of "a picture is worth a thousand words", here's a great reason that a revolver be chambered for 9x19:




And then match a famously framed revolver chambered for 9x19 to that little ballistics picture:




In the end, one could easily say that comparison "leaves little to the imagination".