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Old 10-06-2011, 08:04 PM
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I cleaned my 586 after firing about 500 rounds through it many of them warm .357 loads. While cleaning the gun the cylinder and the rod the extractor rod came right out. I quickly found out that the issue was a screw on the right hand side of the gun had come loose. Did this hurt my gun at all firing it like this?
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:17 PM
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Though nothing like that has happened to me -- I'd just inspect all the parts and the gun and -- if nothing looks chewed up, bent or broken; and if it all goes back together again; and the action still functions -- with the cylinder locking up just before the hammer drops, then it should be fine. These things are made out of good steel.

You might want to put some medium locktite on the screw.

Good luck and good shooting.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:46 PM
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Nope it shouldn't have hurt it, everything locks up when the cylinder is closed, and I don't recommend LocTite....I remove the cylinder for deep cleaning every now and again. Just check all the screws at regular intervals.

Buy yourself a set of purpose made screwdrivers for maintenance. Brownells or Numrich sells high quality sets and are worthwhile investments.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:57 PM
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Though I'm surprised you didn't notice it somewhere in those 500 rounds, I doubt anything was harmed. It's a good thing the screw didn't fly off to parts unknown at the range. Do not loctite the screw, it needs to be tight but still removable with a proper screwdriver for disassembly and cleaning.
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Old 10-06-2011, 10:06 PM
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The Model 16-4 chambered for .32 magnum I just bought Monday had the front sideplate screw about halfway unscrewed..and definately hadn't been cleaned in some time..

I doubt .32 mag would shake a screw loose..but screws that are not properly tightened up will work loose.

I don't usually have much issues with S&W revolvers..but Colts I own seem to need checking quite frequently or you will find sideplate screws loose.
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Old 10-07-2011, 12:16 AM
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Loctite comes in different grades -- I suggested the medium -- it allows one to still unscrew screws -- it just keeps them from unscrewing themselves. I agree that we want to be able to open the gun when needed.
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I wouldn't loctite it, just check it fairly frequently. I have to say I have put a lot of rounds down range from a Smith, some of them pretty darn hot, and haven't had the problem. I do clean and inspect after every session, and keep tools handy at the range unless something unexpected happens. Enjoy!
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Old 10-07-2011, 01:23 AM
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I'm no expert at these things, but my 2c worth:
The newer 586/686 retaining screw has a spring loaded pin on it, so if you are shooting "warm" loads, the screw probably doesn't have to get that loose to let the yoke bump past the pin...

I'll go even further out on a limb and say that the spring loaded pin is part of the "dash 3 new yoke retention system".
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Old 10-07-2011, 06:42 AM
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I bought a 586 a week or so ago. While giving it a careful check I did notice that the cylinder retention screw was loose. Not about to fall out but easily unscrewed with a bit held by your fingers.

I guess this is one screw that should be checked once in a while.
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I learned long ago that if a gun has screws they should be checked regularly. Some guns seem to never shoot screws loose -- some shoot all their screws loose -- and on some, it will be one particular screw that loosens over time, over and over again.

Now, they "shouldn't" shoot loose, granted; but working loose under vibration is a characteristic of screws in machines.
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Old 10-07-2011, 07:58 AM
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I cast my vote against thread-locker of any grade, especially in an alloy frame. I just came by an Air-Lite that some idiot super-glued (or seemed so) the side plate screws in. I got the yoke retention and the middle screw out, but the rear flat screw under the grip...snapped off even with the frame. I realize Smith and others use a soft red thread-locker under the yoke retention screw, and that is probably okay, but I would never use any other type. There is just no use in putting these screws in that tight. I realize the side plate serves as a support surface for the main pins in the gun, but there are no forces at work to push the plate off. I'd rather keep an eye on a screw, or even lose one now and then as opposed to not being able to get one out on down the road. In this case....it is a testimonial to the strength of the alloy used in the Air-Lite frames. I don't know how in the world those screws were installed that tight without stripping the threads from the frame or off the screws.
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