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Let's see some of those stainless "humpbacks" out there.

Here's my M649-3 that I happened upon last year at a local gun shop (LGS)
while looking for a blued "humpback." When I read on the tag a fair asking price,
as well as "box & papers," and noticed that this gun had a forged hammer & trigger,
I was hooked............

The only thing I've done to mine, besides shooting & carrying it,
was to remove the large, clothes gripping, rubber grips that came on it
and installed something a little more carry friendly........







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God, I just bought a three inch Model 13, now this. Got me jonesing for one of these; does it EVER end?
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Let's see some of those stainless "humpbacks" out there.

Here's my M649-3 that I happened upon last year at a local gun shop (LGS)
while looking for a blued "humpback." When I read on the tag a fair asking price,
as well as "box & papers," and noticed that this gun had a forged hammer & trigger,
I was hooked............

When the J Frame .357 Magnum M649-3 was introduced in 1996 S&W was just starting
to use the MIM parts so only the earlier 649-3's have forged hammer's & trigger's.......

The only thing I've done to mine, besides shooting & carrying it,
was to remove the large, clothes gripping, rubber grips that came on it
and installed something a little more carry friendly........








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Hey, I'm lookin' for one for ya aren't I?
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I found my model 649 no dash two years ago at a local gun shop. it gets the most time at the range, when I go out to practice.

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A 649 with a NULL VAM driving holster. I use my 649 for range practice too.

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Let's see some of those stainless "humpbacks" out there.

Here's my M649-3 that I happened upon last year at a local gun shop (LGS)
while looking for a blued "humpback." When I read on the tag a fair asking price,
as well as "box & papers," and noticed that this gun had a forged hammer & trigger,
I was hooked............

When the J Frame .357 Magnum M649-3 was introduced in 1996 S&W was just starting
to use the MIM parts so only the earlier 649-3's have forged hammer's & trigger's.......

The only thing I've done to mine, besides shooting & carrying it,
was to remove the large, clothes gripping, rubber grips that came on it
and installed something a little more carry friendly........







I want one of these, set up just like this one.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Here is my daily carry 649. I carry it along with a Glock 26.
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Yep, the pre-lock magnum 649 and 640's are awesome guns and rather hard to find.
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I have said it before and I will say it again...I love that 649!
I do have one question...will the empties clear those grips? Again, that is one nice revolver.
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I do have one question...will the empties clear those grips? Again, that is one nice revolver.
Thanks Rapidray!
It's one of my favorites, that's for sure...

I haven't tried messing with it since I put those grips on, which just happened.

Last Friday I picked up a M649 that I have to take apart & clean up and after I
get it done am planning to take 'em both out and shoot 'em at the same time.

The M649-3 fills a slot in my carry rotation where it's generally used during
the daytime in conjunction with another gun, whether it's the back-up, or something
else is, changes up. Because of this (2 revo's) I usually don't bother carrying any
spare ammo so reloading capabilities are kind of low on what I want a set of grips
on that particular gun to be good at.

All of my "night time carry guns" have Crimson Trace Grips on them......
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Introductory 649 comemorative with a 649-2
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Here's mine. Found it at my LGS when I went in to buy a beat up Model 60. It was only $50.00 more than the beater Model 60.




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It's wearing CT 105 grips and a Mepro tritium front sight now. Not quite as sexy, but beauty is as beauty does, or something like that
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I hear ya Hawk.
All of my guns get grips based on the role they will play and since
they ain't movie stars their roles are a little different.

Something happened over the last couple of years where now I see beauty in
functionality. If they happen to be wood all the better, if plastic or rubber, so be it.......

Nice mag ya got there!!
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What all did C&S do to your 649. I love the brass bead. How well do you like it? I an used to them on 6 inch guns. I like it a lot!
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Looking for one just like that, with 357 on the side.
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Looking for one just like that, with 357 on the side.
I'm thinkin' about ya Mike and am about to make a run to the LGS,
where I found mine, in a few minutes specifically looking for one just for you.
I'm hoping that their weekend trade-in's will be hittin' the shelves.

Ya never know until ya try.......
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Rapidray C&S did the dovetailed on fp with gold bed front sight. wallowed out the trough, smoothed and radiused the trigger, action work,carry melt, and I love it. Shoots great and I carry it evey day as evidenced by the marks.
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My two, top is 649-1 and bottom 49 both were BUG's

My 649 is also a Michigan State Police BUG. Got it from a Trooper.
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I want to go on the record about the J Frame "Banana" Grips.

Prior to buying them here in the classifieds I did a google site search
and learned that they couldn't be used with speed loaders, which was
fine by me because, more often than not, I use speed strips.

Last night I did try using a Safariland speed loader, and just
like others had said here, there wasn't enough clearance.

Since I have done quite a bit of work on wooden canoe parts over
the years, reshaping of thwarts & refinishing etc., I may buy a set
of the Banana's and see what I can do to "open them up a bit."
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Ajax grips. The company is no longer in business but you can usually find them on ebay.
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In post #14 of this thread I mentioned that I had picked up an old (Dec.1985)
Michigan State Poilce M649 that had been used as a MSP back-up gun.

This was one of those guns that had seen a lot of use and was in need of some TLC.

A Power Custom Shim took care of the end shake problem & a good cleaning
fixed the slow timing issue on two of the chambers. A couple of hours (by hand)
with the liquid version of Flitz brought it back as far the finish issues were concerned.

I was lucky in the fact that while looking for another set of J Frame Grips
for another gun I came across these in a box of J Frame Grips I forgot
I had, stashing them away before my J-Frame Days.

After installing a Wilson 8 lb. mainspring & 15 lb. rebound I ended up with
an average weight on the DA (double action) trigger pull of 9 lb's 6 oz's so now
it's time to do a little reliablity testing before adding it to the carry stable
so it can go back to doing what it had so obviously done for so many years.....

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The lighter mainspring mentioned above gave me 2 light primer strikes out of
150 rounds, 1 with Blazer (CCI primers) & the other with Remington ammo.
Because of this I swapped out the lighter Wilson mainspring for a stock 8.5 lb.,
"factory fresh" spring. After the swap to the heavier mainspring I ended up with an
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In post #14 of this thread I mentioned that I had picked up an old (Dec.1985)
Michigan State Poilce M649 that had been used as a MSP back-up gun.

This was one of those guns that had seen a lot of use and was in need of some TLC.

A Power Custom Shim took care of the end shake problem & a good cleaning
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with the liquid version of Flitz brought it back as far the finish issues were concerned.

I was lucky in the fact that while looking for another set of J Frame Grips
for another gun I came across these in a box of J Frame Grips I forgot
I had, stashing them away before my J-Frame Days.

After installing a Wilson 8 lb. mainspring & 15 lb. rebound I ended up with
an average weight on the DA (double action) trigger pull of 9 lb's 6 oz's so now
it's time to do a little reliablity testing before adding it to the carry stable
so it can go back to doing what it had so obviously done for so many years.....






Jack, you did a GREAT job on that 649 , and those grips
Really nice package all around. Can't wait to get mine.
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Jack, you did a GREAT job on that 649 , and those grips
Really nice package all around. Can't wait to get mine.
Thanks Mike!

This was one of those projects where I just took my time and finding
those Grips, while lookin' for some for you know what , stashed in a
small box in the top of a closet was like a "blind squirrel finding a nut."

I just got off of the phone with the FFL and I'll be dropping yours off after
he gets out of work later today, so it won't be long now my friend......
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Thanks Mike!

This was one of those projects where I just took my time and finding
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small box in the top of a closet was like a "blind squirrel finding a nut."

I just got off of the phone with the FFL and I'll be dropping yours off after
he gets out of work later today, so it won't be long now my friend......
Post some pics if you want, you do a much better job than I, any day of the week.
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Post some pics if you want.
I was going to ask you about that Mike
but didn't want to come off as presumptuous

At the risk of all of my photo's looking the same, here are a couple of
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Verrry short story

I was looking for a 649-3, Jack offered to look around for me, he found this gun in 3 or 4 days. I had like 5 forum members offering to look for this gun, and many thanks to them all. Jack seemed OBSESSED with finding me a 649-3, and I wish to thank him immensely for doing that. It even comes with the box.
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Thanks Photoman44!

It turned out far better than I could have ever imagined it would,
based on how it looked when I first laid eyes on it.

I knew it had potential, but how much was a, "we'll see" proposition.

Now the little bugger is working it's way on to my favorites list!!
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While taking some pictures of another gun today I figured I would get a side
by side of the 649 & 649-3 since, while similar, they are different critters,
especially when it comes to weight........



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He is such a ham he jumped right in the photo session!

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A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to get another Mich. State Police
back-up, no dash, M649, which quickly turned into a package deal for two.

A week later I went back for one of the two M38's that I had the
chance at when getting the 649's. So much for self-control

The first 649 I picked up is shown on the lower right, now, instead of
the "lamo-camo" grips shown in the previous photo's it's wearing
some old S&W rosewoods, both stamped inside with serial no.
103, which means they could date back to 1950-51.



The Model 38 Airweight is kind of a mystery in that the serial no. has it being
shipped in August 1968, according to Mr.Jinks, but the barrel isn't pinned.
The serial # on the bbl is the same as found on the outside bottom of the
grip frame with no other obvious repair stamps found anywhere else on the frame.
The Trooper who carried it was issued the gun in 1984-85
& relied on it as his back-up during his 25 yr. career.

No matter, the M38 has now taken it's position next to the "first" M649
as one of my primary carry guns so both are back to doing what
they had done for so many years, gettin' around.....
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Bought this in 1995 for $150 as a replacement for the blue 49 I was carrying. It was new, never issued from a local PD who traded in all their revolvers for autos. They had 3 new in the box never issued, never fired 649s. Wish I had bought all 3.
I carried it everyday as my second or undercover gun for 11 yrs and then I retired. Today I carry this one more often than any other. It's a gem to shoot and carry.
What's not to like about the humpback? It's like the old spotted dog. So ugly that you can't help but like him.

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A couple of weeks ago I had the chance to get another Mich. State Police
back-up, no dash, M649, which quickly turned into a package deal for two.

A week later I went back for one of the two M38's that I had the
chance at when getting the 649's. So much for self-control

The first 649 I picked up is shown on the lower right, now, instead of
the "lamo-camo" grips shown in the previous photo's it's wearing
some old S&W rosewoods, both stamped inside with serial no.
103, which means they could date back to 1950-51.



The Model 38 Airweight is kind of a mystery in that the serial no. has it being
shipped in August 1968, according to Mr.Jinks, but the barrel isn't pinned.
The serial # on the bbl is the same as found on the outside bottom of the
grip frame with no other obvious repair stamps found anywhere else on the frame.
The Trooper who carried it was issued the gun in 1984-85
& relied on it as his back-up during his 25 yr. career.

No matter, the M38 has now taken it's position next to the "first" M649
as one of my primary carry guns so both are back to doing what
they had done for so many years, gettin' around.....
Trying to get every one of them Ogy?
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Here's mine, a 649-2





Down and dirty cell phone pics.

Also bought a 36 ND in a recent spate of the 'need' to have small concealable .38's.

Replaced the springs with Wolf kits in both.

This 649 is a laser!

It's going to NEED a set of those Ajax faux ivories soon. Damn they look good!
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hello all, new member here but have been lurking for some time..

I was wondering if anyone knows what kind of grips these are? I have fallen in love and would love to locate a set..

any info is greatly appreciated!


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In post #14 of this thread I mentioned that I had picked up an old (Dec.1985)
Michigan State Poilce M649 that had been used as a MSP back-up gun.

This was one of those guns that had seen a lot of use and was in need of some TLC.

A Power Custom Shim took care of the end shake problem & a good cleaning
fixed the slow timing issue on two of the chambers. A couple of hours (by hand)
with the liquid version of Flitz brought it back as far the finish issues were concerned.

I was lucky in the fact that while looking for another set of J Frame Grips
for another gun I came across these in a box of J Frame Grips I forgot
I had, stashing them away before my J-Frame Days.

After installing a Wilson 8 lb. mainspring & 15 lb. rebound I ended up with
an average weight on the DA (double action) trigger pull of 9 lb's 6 oz's so now
it's time to do a little reliablity testing before adding it to the carry stable
so it can go back to doing what it had so obviously done for so many years.....

Edited later to add:
The lighter mainspring mentioned above gave me 2 light primer strikes out of
150 rounds, 1 with Blazer (CCI primers) & the other with Remington ammo.
Because of this I swapped out the lighter Wilson mainspring for a stock 8.5 lb.,
"factory fresh" spring. After the swap to the heavier mainspring I ended up with an
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I've been an competitive bullseye for longer than I want to admit and recently obtained my concealed carry permit. For whatever reason, I find the "humpback" 649 nice looking and plan to purchase one if and when I can find one. My question is, if carried in a pocket can the 649 be fired from inside the pocket or would the hammer nub hang up? I'd appreciate your comments. Thanks, Dr.J
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Is there an easy way to tell whether the hammer/trigger is forged or MIM on a no-lock 649-3?

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My question is, if carried in a pocket can the 649 be fired from inside the pocket or would the hammer nub hang up? I'd appreciate your comments. Thanks, Dr.J
The hammer is barely above the frame. If you can get your hand in your pocket and pull the trigger then the hammer nub isn't going to be a problem.
However, if you wear pants like John Travolta in Saturday Night Fever and you can read the serial number thru your pants then the hammer might be a problem. If you do wear your pants that tight I wouldn't admit it.
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