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Old 05-06-2012, 10:21 PM
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So far I've run a couple hundred moderate 44Mag loads through my 329PD (240gr LSWC over 8.5gr Unique). With the Hogue X-Frame grip recoil is entirely manageable, I could shoot it as long as I wanted to.

That said, my desire is to use the load I use in my Ruger Deerhunter as the hunting load for this pistol...obvious reason is only one ammo to load/track...as long as it's as accurate as I need it to be in the pistol. I can't say the load yet, as currently it's with H110 powder and I want to work up a duplicate with 2400 before shooting it in the 329PD, as I do believe the stories of H110 being hard on the blast shield. I don't recall the exact H110 load without looking it up but suffice to say it's on the stiff side (but not book max, ~1gr below IIRC).

The 329PD is the only gun I have ever shot that has noticeably worse recoil as the cylinder empties and lightens the gun. When I got it, before I knew not to use H110 and before I had the X-frame grips on it, I did load it with a cylinder of these near-max shells and try to shoot it. I cried uncle after the third shot. With the new grips I think I could tolerate a FEW cylinders of full mag loads.

For hunting or for bear defense, the recoil is a non-issue. However, for working up loads or practicing with the full power loads, I feel no need to take more punishment than necessary. As I was talking about this gun with my brother-in-law and described the increasing recoil as the cylinder emptied, he suggested loading some rounds with excessively heavy 44 bullets...in 3-4 cylinders just for weight without intent to shoot them...just as ballast while testing loads. This discussion evolved into taking a dummy round (spent primer) and either filling it with lead shot barely compressed under a bullet, or even taking a torch and melting the case full of lead.

So what are your thoughts? Is there any downside to useing 3-4 lead-filled cases as ballast to weight the gun and make the shooting easier just while testing heavy loads?
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Old 05-06-2012, 10:31 PM
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What's the sense of fooling yourself or further limiting your ammunition capacity? You bought the gun - learn to shoot it or sell it & buy something else.

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Old 05-06-2012, 10:43 PM
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What's the sense of fooling yourself or further limiting your ammunition capacity? You bought the gun - learn to shoot it or sell it & buy something else.

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That's a bit of an idiot reply, don't you think? Who cares about ammo capacity when you are test firing loads? AR15.com is calling you.

I shoot the gun quite well, thank you. I did not buy the gun to shoot 30-50 full-power loads in a sitting...as I'm sure most people did not...but if load development requires it I don't see anything wrong with figuring out ways to make it more comfortable. The next gun on my list is a 5" 629 Classic as a range gun for bulk shooting...but funny that some of us actually buy guns we will carry and use rather than stack boxes of Smiths in our safe rarely to see the light of day or carry in the field...

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Hey, no offense pal, I just figure you should train with the gun you're going to carry in the configuration in which you'll carry it. No need to call names.

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Let the gun rise high in recoil will help ! Control it after most of the recoil energy is done.....I did this for all my past 44 mag. and now with my 460sw (and no problem with some friends 500sw) as far as shooting target is involved.
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