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627 with non-fluted cylinder question
I am considering buying a no dash 627 6", but one thing that kind of bugs me is that it has a non-fluted cylinder. I think it looks silly, I have never been a fan of those on any revolver.
What is the approximate value of this gun, assume it's in excellent shape, but has hogue grips. I dont see 627's around here very often, if ever.
Also, how difficult would it be to swap out the cylinder? Is that something I can do myself?
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Just realized I posted this in the wrong forum, meant to put it in the 1981-present forum, can someone please move it thanks.
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When I first saw the unfluted cylinders I didn't like them much but now it's no big deal. Guess I've gotten use to them.
I don't see these for sale enough to give an opinion on value. I'll leave that to someone else.
Swapping the cylinder is easy but will there be any fitting or timing adjustments to be made, that is the part you better leave to a gunsmith. MHO
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03-30-2012, 11:39 PM
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Check the barrel length. The 6 inch is seldom seen, most are 5 or 5.5 inch, with the newer ones sporting some 4 inch barrels. What dash number does it have? Is it a 6 or 8 shot? Pics would be nice too.
Whatever it is, 627's are great!
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It's a 6 shot, 6", no dash, not the performance center version. Dont have pics unfortunately. What would a good price for this be? Again, assume it's in good shape. And it dont have the original grips.
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Bought it for $605 out the door, pics may take a few days.
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For shooting in the usual pistol games I find the heavier cylinder mass of an unfluted stainless cylinder results in a heavier DA trigger. I do like the unfluted titanium cylinder on my &W 327PC JM version - it's light weight makes for a very smooth light DA trigger.
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Here is the gun. Apon further review, it's a 627-0, 5".
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I never had an unfluted cylinder gun until I found a 627PC, and now I have a 629 3" also unfluted. They definitely look chunkier that the normal fluted cylinder models. Yours looks very nice.
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I never had an unfluted cylinder gun until I found a 627PC, and now I have a 629 3" also unfluted. They definitely look chunkier that the normal fluted cylinder models. Yours looks very nice.
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Wish it had the original grips, but hey
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At $605 out the door, I think you did OK. A little mothers mag polish and some elbow grease, and I'll bet it cleans up just fine. Congratulations on your new revolver.
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That is a good price in today's market. I have seen them priced at $1200 with box and papers. They are great shooters.
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You got a good deal. Ones that are high 90% with box and original grips are around 1k.
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Nice pick - the unfluted guns really grow on you!...
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Those look awesome unfluted with full underlugs. Totally tubular, dude.
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I've got the very same gun. Picked it up ~2008 for $350 believe it or not!
I've always loved the unfluted look and swore I would some day own one. Over the last 10 years I've pretty much migrated towards shooting only my DA revolvers and have dumped all but one of my SAs. With all that trigger time on K's, L's and N's, and have to agree with TSquared comments about cylinder mass. You can feel the difference, even though it is probably only a couple ounces of steel.
Because of that, my mind has changed on my preference for that unfluted look.
I'm still trying to score a whitetail with mine. Let a bunch of does go by the last two seasons. One thing that is good about all the mass that this gun has for a .357 - it soaks up recoil from hot 170 or 180 grain hand-loads very well.
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Its so funny how I wax and wane on the flutes. I always like fluted cylinders and really never gave unfluted a second thought. I recently picked up an unfluted 627 and it was like a new found attraction. I really like it and think its a hot look. That said, I think certain models shine with them, and others not so much. Nice grab, and if you ever wanted to S&W can fit you a fluted cylinder for a price.
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Nice pick - the unfluted guns really grow on you!...
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I really like the grips (stocks) on the revolver on the left. Are they Eagle Grips?
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Does anyone have any factual information on whether the non-fluted cylinders cause additional wear on the hand, bolt, bolt stops, etc. due to additional inertia compared to the standard cylinder?
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I have one also. It's my favorite shooter! The Model of 1989 627 had a production run of about 5,000 units. As noted previously, they can run as high as $1K for really nice ones. Mines a shooter though, and won't be sold!
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Here's an option for you (although it will cost you approximately $200 (plus shipping). S&W can remove the non-fluted cylinder and replace it with a fluted one. (They all also return the original non-fluted cylinder.) That is what I had them do to my 627PC.
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Here's an option for you (although it will cost you approximately $200 (plus shipping). S&W can remove the non-fluted cylinder and replace it with a fluted one. (They all also return the original non-fluted cylinder.) That is what I had them do to my 627PC.
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The 8 shot cylinders won't work in a six shot gun. The barrel is set slightly higher in the 8 shot 627. You could however send your cylinder out to a gun smith and have them cut the flutes.
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You got a good deal. Ones that are high 90% with box and original grips are around 1k.
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Yep! Ya stole that one for $605.....want $610 for it?
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The 8 shot cylinders won't work in a six shot gun. The barrel is set slightly higher in the 8 shot 627. You could however send your cylinder out to a gun smith and have them cut the flutes.
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What? Is that true?
Only pulling your leg, friend. I know that you can't swap a 6 shot for an 8 shot cylinder. It was the concept I was referring to... and the only before/after photos I have. S&W has to have a gazillion 6-shot, fluted 357 Mag cylinders on hand. Might be cheaper than cutting flutes into a non-fluted cylinder (???). I don't know. It was just a possible option for the OP.
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Those ARE the Original Grips
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I bought one exactly like yours in August 1990. Paid $388.41 OTD.
And it had the same grips on it from the factory.
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I have a 627-0 that I bought new in '89. I put about 100 rounds through it, cleaned it up, and put it back in the box and away. I didn't care for the grips but (fortunately) left them on it. I don't know why those combats command a premium, for my money they feel lousy. But they look cool. I suppose one of these days I'll sell mine, it is LNIB and still all-original.
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I DO NOT like the unfluted cylinders!!! I am looking to order a 5" 627 8-round Performance Center. Do I have to specify that I want a "FLUTED" cylinder? The picture on their site shows a fluted cylinder. The SKU is 170210
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Non-fluted cylinders
I love them. For me, they convey a sense of solidity and power. I first saw them on a 25-7 that I stumbled across in a gun store. Shipped from the factory with Hogue Monogrips. And came with the original box, tools, and manual. I bought it on the spot. Two weeks later, I came across one for sale on this forum. Took me about five minutes to decide I wanted it. And I got it. Again with matching box and tools. Smith only made 2000 of these things in '89. I ditched the Hogues for smooth target footballs, one pair in Goncalo Alves. I bought the grips at two different gun shows. They warm the guns up, but don't take away from the powerful look. I'm not sure I can attach a photo here, but if I can, I will. The one on the left is the one with the Goncalo Alves grips.
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I DO NOT like the unfluted cylinders!!! I am looking to order a 5" 627 8-round Performance Center. Do I have to specify that I want a "FLUTED" cylinder? The picture on their site shows a fluted cylinder. The SKU is 170210
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The 170210 has the fluted cylinders, although a few were made some years back with unfluted cylinders.
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